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[vertigomez]

 
Boo!
 
Also, YES to a hot ginger gay KISA!

I knew that Ouija board would come in handy someday.

Iron Bull Greatly Approves.

[Hellion Rex]

 

Miss you all. 

[In Exile]

 

Miss you all. 

Where is your avatar from, I ask, because shots of abs generally beg that sort of question? 

[Hellion Rex]

Where is your avatar from, I ask, because shots of abs generally beg that sort of question? 

His name is Sun Wukong, and he's from the show RWBY. Here's the full image.

[In Exile]

Well, I know what show I'm giving a shot too next. At the moment - and speaking of gingers - I've been watching Black Sails. I'm a fan of Captain Flint. And I think his season 2 flashback portrayal really catch what I would like to see in a character.

[vertigomez]

What class would your ideal KISA be? I imagine folks are mostly picturing sword-and-board warriors, but a 2H isn't out of the question, right? I feel like most of our 2H'ers have had a certain shadiness or darkness to their character... Fenris, Bull, Sten, Oghren... is it weird that Carver feels like the outlier here?

Sebastian bucked the trend by being a rogue, but he still has the armor and nobility and religiosity stuff going on. What would you say to a rogue KISA, provided they were actually a KISA and not playing to the lovable/dashing rogue stereotype?

[Witch Cocktor]

A roguish rogue wouldn't be bad as long as they were masculine and gay. That's all I really need, masculinity, even a mage will do although I highly would advice against a gay mage. For me it's shield-sword warrior > knife rogue > two-hander warrior > bow rogue > blood mage > mage.

[The Ghost]

A roguish rogue wouldn't be bad as long as they were masculine and gay. That's all I really need, masculinity, even a mage will do although I highly would advice against a gay mage. For me it's shield-sword warrior > knife rogue > two-hander warrior > bow rogue > blood mage > mage.

I DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY DOUBLE THAT! No, not double it, TRIPLE IT! xD

[Catilina]

A roguish rogue wouldn't be bad as long as they were masculine and gay. That's all I really need, masculinity, even a mage will do although I highly would advice against a gay mage. For me it's shield-sword warrior > knife rogue > two-hander warrior > bow rogue > blood mage > mage.

Agree. But I do not have sequence; masculinity is the key.

 

(Okay, i understand: from an accountant [for example] not the heroism the first, that comes to mind ...)

[sandalisthemaker]

What class would your ideal KISA be? I imagine folks are mostly picturing sword-and-board warriors, but a 2H isn't out of the question, right? I feel like most of our 2H'ers have had a certain shadiness or darkness to their character... Fenris, Bull, Sten, Oghren... is it weird that Carver feels like the outlier here?

Sebastian bucked the trend by being a rogue, but he still has the armor and nobility and religiosity stuff going on. What would you say to a rogue KISA, provided they were actually a KISA and not playing to the lovable/dashing rogue stereotype?

 

Well, I definitely would like a gay warrior, preferably sword and shield.  

 

If we are to get a gay or bisexual rogue, I'd like to see one who is not a promiscuous sleep-with-anything-that-moves type.  While I don't have anything against a companion being promiscuous, promiscuity has been bound too tightly to non-straight LIs.

 

I think that a rogue KISA (as in the rogue gameplay class, dual dagger especially) would be interesting.  Sebastian is arguably the archer version of this already, but most of his character is tied to his Andrastian faith.  I don't really look at him and say, 'Oh, a KISA!"   But that's just me. 

 

Still, a literal warrior would be my ideal.  A gay or bisexual sword and shield warrior has not happened yet.  I really want to see one (or two!).

[Catilina]

I think that a rogue KISA (as in the rogue gameplay class, dual dagger especially) would be interesting.  Sebastian is arguably the archer version of this already, but most of his character is tied to his Andrastian faith.  I don't really look at him and say, 'Oh, a KISA!"   But that's just me. 

 

(Perhaps because Sebastian can not be called a "knight"? And on this fact will not change his shining armor and his noble origin.)

[sandalisthemaker]

(Perhaps because Sebastian can not be called a "knight"? And on this fact will not change his shining armor and his noble origin.)

 

It's tricky for me to describe, but Sebastian just doesn't give off the aura that Cassandra or Aveline give off.

 

I look at those two and say "Dayum!"  With Seb, not so much. 

[dgcatanisiri]

I suggested it a while back, I could see accepting a rogue if he were like from a family of warriors, but could never get the hang of swords and shields, and so resorted to subterfuge and trickery in combat. So I guess that would be someone who WANTS to be a 'knight in shining armor,' but has to use these tactics to survive, and seeing the conflict he has in that - you know, like the concept of honor and chivalry in opposition with the fact that in combat, he'd be likely to end up stabbing someone in the back.

[sandalisthemaker]

I've mentioned this a couple of times, but I still have my fingers crossed for a male KISA from Tevinter who comes from a long line of careful Altus breeding but inexplicably does not have magical ability.  All of his family- his parents, siblings, cousins, etc, are talented, powerful mages, except for him.   It could be a source of angst that he channeled into becoming the best warrior he could be.   He sees corruption, blood magic, slavery, etc everywhere. He doesn't precisely know how to go about changing things, but he wants things to change.      

[Catilina]

I've mentioned this a couple of times, but I still have my fingers crossed for a male KISA from Tevinter who comes from a long line of careful Altus breeding but inexplicably does not have magical ability.  All of his family- his parents, siblings, cousins, etc, are talented, powerful mages, except for him.   It could be a source of angst that he channeled into becoming the best warrior he could be.   He sees corruption, blood magic, slavery, etc everywhere. He doesn't precisely know how to go about changing things, but he wants things to change.      

 

I like the concept. As LI and as player character too.

(With this background, i can imagine a warrior as main character; mostly i use mage first – especially in DA series.)

[Witch Cocktor]

I've mentioned this a couple of times, but I still have my fingers crossed for a male KISA from Tevinter who comes from a long line of careful Altus breeding but inexplicably does not have magical ability.  All of his family- his parents, siblings, cousins, etc, are talented, powerful mages, except for him.   It could be a source of angst that he channeled into becoming the best warrior he could be.   He sees corruption, blood magic, slavery, etc everywhere. He doesn't precisely know how to go about changing things, but he wants things to change.      

Oh my, I'd love this! Well, as long as there was no gay angst, since Tevinter and all.  I guess his parents wouldn't care much about if he would produce an heir or not because the whole breeding only the finest specimen to continue the bloodline thing.

[Biotic Apostate]

I'd prefer a warrior, two-handed or sword and shield (for me it's a very inseparable part of the knight trope) who's not from Tevinter. While your idea Sandal does sound interesting, for me it's just a matter of more variety, so we don't end up with gay companions just from Tevinter. Maybe a warrior from a family of Rivaini seers. Someone who's not a mage themselves, but who's very positive about magic. Nevarra, Anderfels, and Rivain are countries we generally don't know much about, and it would be nice to have a gay companion to present the culture of those places.

[Witch Cocktor]

I'd prefer someone who is critical of magic and mages. Not necessarily pro-circles and pro-templars, but definitely not pro-mage freedom either.

[Biotic Apostate]

I'd prefer someone who is critical of magic and mages. Not necessarily pro-circles and pro-templars, but definitely not pro-mage freedom either.

But we had that already with Fenris, Carver, and Sten. We've yet to see a warrior companion who's truly supportive of mages (although I guess Cassandra was close).

[Witch Cocktor]

But we had that already with Fenris, Carver, and Sten. We've yet to see a warrior companion who's truly supportive of mages (although I guess Cassandra was close).

Being against total mage freedom =/= not supporting the mages. Mages are as dangerous to regular folk as regular folk are to mages.

Also, Blackwall approves of mage alliance, and disapproves of conscripting them. 

 

True, we don't have a warrior who likes to kiss mage ass but we also don't have many characters period that approach this dilemma with logic instead of emotion, who don't assume to know the right answer and do not pick a side.

 

And Dorian was obviously pro mage freedom, so another gay character who is for mage freedom, no thanks. Also, the whole mage issues = LGBT issues (in real life) needs to die, and adding more gay characters who are pro mage freedom would just fuel the fire that should be put out. It could be seen as another stereotypical trait for gay characters to have, always supporting those who are '' oppressed. ''

 

I guess I wouldn't mind a pro mage gay warrior as long as he didn't push his agenda on me, and that he wouldn't take the role of Vivienne where you either agree with him or then you get roasted and can't say anything back, or convince him that my opinion is as valid as any.

[Biotic Apostate]

I don't want someone who "likes to kiss mage ass," but someone who, like in the example I gave, lived with magic being something normal, and doesn't see a problem with it. I liked the Avvar and Rivaini approach to magic, much more chill.

 

And Dorian was a mage, it wasn't so weird for him to support mage freedom, a warrior supporting mages has less of a personal investment in it. For me mage hating warriors are much more of a tedious theme than the similarities between LGBT issues and mage issues. But I guess that's a personal preference.

[Witch Cocktor]

I did not say that the warrior should hate mages. I said the warrior should be CRITICAL of mages (and templars alike). Being critical of something is not the same as opposing or hating. I'm tired of both mage-hating and templar-hating. I need balance.

 

Despite that, I'd still prefer a gay character who was more anti-mage. Give the pro-mage warrior the bi spot, that's fine, but I hope the gay spot would be given to a non-mage who doesn't have necessarily anything good to say about mages of magic. Personal preference, though. I'd personally like if the templar vs mage thing wasn't dragged on to DA4.

[nightscrawl]

I'd personally like if the templar vs mage thing wasn't dragged on to DA4.

If we do go to Tevinter, are based there, or at last spend a great deal of time there, I'm REALLY super curious to see how the magic debate will be handled. I do not at all expect it to be in the same way that it has been for the past three games. Not only is the view of magic different there (naturally), but the Chantry -- the primary influential factor against mages in southern Thedas -- is also run by mages in Tevinter.

That said, I do not expect all of our companions, or even most, to be of Tevinter origins, even if they aren't mages. I fully expect an eclectic grouping, just as we've had for all games to date. Even so, and even if we have anti-mage people in the group, I doubt it will be handled in the same way because the setting is so different.

On the other hand, it would be kind of amusing to have the one anti-mage person, take them into Tevinter, and have them complain constantly about mages. I do mean in a humorous way: "*Grumble* Sodding mages everywhere," and so on.

[vertigomez]

It's tricky for me to describe, but Sebastian just doesn't give off the aura that Cassandra or Aveline give off.
 
I look at those two and say "Dayum!"  With Seb, not so much.

Huh. Really? I guess I always think of Alistair, Sebastian, Cullen, and Blackwall (pre-Revelations) as being, like, the gold standard of KISAdom. Chivalrous, protective, selfless, more or less religious, wears shiny armor lol. With Aveline and Cassandra being the ultimate examples on the ladies' side.

[In Exile]

For me mage hating warriors are much more of a tedious theme than the similarities between LGBT issues and mage issues. But I guess that's a personal preference.

 

I've just never seen or related to how fiction tries to compare my experience with sexuality to, basically, having superpowers. Like True Blood. Being bi is not like being thousands of years and and having the ability to fly (eventually). Or X-Men. Again, being bi, not like shooting lasers from your eyes.

 

The only parable I've actually related to is the IB. Because what he struggles with his his identity and place in the world. That resonates with me a lot more.

 

Huh. Really? I guess I always think of Alistair, Sebastian, Cullen, and Blackwall (pre-Revelations) as being, like, the gold standard of KISAdom. Chivalrous, protective, selfless, more or less religious, wears shiny armor lol. With Aveline and Cassandra being the ultimate examples on the ladies' side.

 

I just think Alistair is too insecure to fit the trope as I think of it. I think part of what makes a KISA work is a kind of - confident fervor. That's something Cassandra has, even as she struggles with self-doubt re: her faith, that I think Alistair is missing.