Velanna gets flustered by Nathaniel's compliments.
Is just getting flustered by a compliment enough to be ruled out as asexual?
To the best of my knowledge, I would say that Shale, Sigrun, and Velanna have little to no character development around their sexualities. They could really be any orientation, right?
Huh. I didn't know Varric loved her. I haven't read the comics, so I thought the Carta killed her in his place, or something similar.
I dunno, their banters weren't flirty enough.I tend to think it was more - Anders crushing on Nate, Nate crushing on Velanna. A sad little chain of feelings.
Velanna gets flustered by Nathaniel's compliments.
That doesn't mean she's not asexual. It could be the affection she's reacting to, rather than any lust. Not that think she's asexual.
Is just getting flustered by a compliment enough to be ruled out as asexual?
To the best of my knowledge, I would say that Shale, Sigrun, and Velanna have little to no character development around their sexualities. They could really be any orientation, right?
That doesn't mean she's not asexual. It could be the affection she's reacting to, rather than any lust. Not that think she's asexual.
Fair enough. I thought she reciprocated it in one conversation though, but I could be mistaken.
Huh. I didn't know Varric loved her. I haven't read the comics, so I thought the Carta killed her in his place, or something similar.
Her status is unknown. Hopefully we find out in Inquisition.
The closest I've seen is Loras in the GoT show (not books).
Wait, why doesn't Loras from the books count?
Wait, why doesn't Loras from the books count?
In the books, it's not really very clear that there is actually a relationship between Loras and Renly. It's certainly implied through comments, but it's not really a "thing" for sure. He certainly fits the stereotype, but he's not clearly defined as gay and we know almost nothing about any relationship between him and Renly.
In the books, it's not really very clear that there is actually a relationship between Loras and Renly. It's certainly implied through comments, but it's not really a "thing" for sure. He certainly fits the stereotype, but he's not clearly defined as gay and we know almost nothing about any relationship between him and Renly.
Yeah...I suppose it's only very heavily implied and never outright stated by either Loras or Renly, but with lines like, "Loras: When the sun has set, no candle can replace it." I simply cannot imagine any other reality. In fact, if it comes out that they're NOT gay, then I have no earthly idea what is going on in those books.
Edit: Apparently Word of God is pretty clear on the matter: "And speaking of Renly and Loras...
George specifically stated "Yes, I did intend those characters to be gay." Not that we didn't already know that of course, but I don't believe it's ever been actually confirmed before."
Yeah...I suppose it's only very heavily implied and never outright stated by either Loras or Renly, but with lines like, "Loras: When the sun has set, no candle can replace it." I simply cannot imagine any other reality. In fact, if it comes out that they're NOT gay, then I have no earthly idea what is going on in those books.
Edit: Apparently Word of God is pretty clear on the matter: "And speaking of Renly and Loras...
George specifically stated "Yes, I did intend those characters to be gay." Not that we didn't already know that of course, but I don't believe it's ever been actually confirmed before."
Yeah, I totally believe that they are gay. But it's kind of another example of it being downplayed. Here's one good modern example who could really be the gay knight in shining armor that people are asking for and it's simply innuendo in the actual text.
In the show, however, he fits it much better. They don't really hide his sexuality and it's actually relevant to the subplots.
That being said, I'm glad that GRRM decided to Word of God it. I always like when authors make it clear when it's ambiguous. J.K. Rowlings did this with Dumbledore, although he's not related to the trope!
Someone who's legit polysexual? Demi? There's a wealth of possibilities out there.
I'm waiting for a character of any class who's asexual and VERY tired of being told they're "defective" or "Just a prude".
Polysexual? Huh, that's a new one for me. I knew about demi, but never heard of poly.
And I agree about an asexual romance. I think it's a definite possibility, as Gaider and Weekes both talked about it this past GaymerX at the romance panel.
Polysexual? Huh, that's a new one for me. I knew about demi, but never heard of poly.
And I agree about an asexual romance. I think it's a definite possibility, as Gaider and Weekes both talked about it this past GaymerX at the romance panel.
So let's see.
They've got bisexual, heterosexual, homosexual and pansexual
They're looking into asexual
No indication of looking into others, like demisexual
So let's see.
They've got bisexual, heterosexual, homosexual and pansexual
They're looking into asexual
No indication of looking into others, like demisexual
I only mentioned asexual because I remember that someone specifically asked about it GaymerX and the developers responded. They could very well be looking into demisexuality. We just have no freakin' clue what their plans are for the next one.
Yeah, I totally believe that they are gay. But it's kind of another example of it being downplayed. Here's one good modern example who could really be the gay knight in shining armor that people are asking for and it's simply innuendo in the actual text.
In the show, however, he fits it much better. They don't really hide his sexuality and it's actually relevant to the subplots.
That being said, I'm glad that GRRM decided to Word of God it. I always like when authors make it clear when it's ambiguous. J.K. Rowlings did this with Dumbledore, although he's not related to the trope!
I just found another GRRM quote about it, actually.
"Turns out, series author George R.R. Martin says the characters "are gay in the books too." Also, “I never meant to make it a mystery.” “I like to handle things subtly. I couldn’t ever actually say, ‘such-and-such is gay,’ because, as I’m sure you know, the word wasn’t invented until the 60s. And I’m talking medieval times, and I’m not going to say, ‘so-and-so is gay.’ But I thought it was pretty clear in context.”"
I've also seen quotes from him stating that the only reason there isn't homosexual sex described is because none of the viewpoint characters are homosexual. Which makes sense. It's too bad that Loras and Margery aren't more important to the story, as I've always thought they were a really interesting analog to Jamie and Cersei.
But as to the Dragon Age series itself...well, now I can't remember what I was going to say. Huh. I seem to have derailed myself. That's never happened before...
So let's see.
They've got bisexual, heterosexual, homosexual and pansexual
They're looking into asexual
No indication of looking into others, like demisexual
That does seem correct. Being Demisexual can be considered a bit of a sub-sexuality. It can be part of any other sexuality. It only implies romantic feelings upon closeness, not necessarily sexual ones so an ace can be in the subset as well.
Sexuality is such a complicated beast. So hard to explain sometimes.
Meanwhile, characters available for same sex romance tend to be roguish characters who have a dark streak and/or questionable morals, and tend to be promiscuous. They tend to have a "bad boy/girl" or "edgy" quality to them. (Leliana, Zevran, Isabela, Anders, Fenris, Iron Bull, Sera). Note that this is not necessarily a bad thing, as grayness tends to make for interesting characters.
What? Leliana is about as good meaning and naive as you can get. I don't see anything "edgy" about her. Additionally we don't know the character of Iron Bull or Sera yet, but if i had to guess i also don't see anything "bad girl" or "edgy" about sera. Don't they count because they are rogues?
Also you can't really count DA 2 characters because EVERYONE had a "bad boy/girl" wipe about them. Or to be frank everybody was a bit braindead in some way.
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This would be interesting to explore.
Although I think, generally speaking, knights in shining armor aren't a romance related trope. They often have an austere and virginal quality (Joan of Arc, Sir Galahad, and the Knights Templar were monks).
What? Leliana is about as good meaning and naive as you can get. I don't see anything "edgy" about her. Additionally we don't know the character of Iron Bull or Sera yet, but if i had to guess i also don't see anything "bad girl" or "edgy" about sera. Don't they count because they are rogues?
Also you can't really count DA 2 characters because EVERYONE had a "bad boy/girl" wipe about them. Or to be frank everybody was a bit braindead in some way.
Pretty sure you never played her character arc then. Sexually adventurous bard who stole things all the time? Betrayed by mentor? Raped(possibly) and sent on a roaring rampage of revenge?
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Pretty sure you never played her character arc then. Sexually adventurous bard who stole things all the time? Betrayed by mentor? Raped(possibly) and sent on a roaring rampage of revenge?
Yeah...
Marjolaine also warns you that she isn't as innocent as she seems. It's your fault if you believe it. 
edit: Actually "fault" is the wrong word. There's nothing wrong with believing that. She's harmless either way. But naive and innocent she is not.
What? Leliana is about as good meaning and naive as you can get. I don't see anything "edgy" about her. Additionally we don't know the character of Iron Bull or Sera yet, but if i had to guess i also don't see anything "bad girl" or "edgy" about sera. Don't they count because they are rogues?
Leliana was an assassin. She was an assassin who was girly and feminine, but she was certainly not 'naive'.
Iron Bull is the leader of a band of mercenaries. Sera is the leader of a professional criminal syndicate. I think that this is what the other poster was referring to.
This would be interesting to explore.
Although I think, generally speaking, knights in shining armor aren't a romance related trope. They often have an austere and virginal quality (Joan of Arc, Sir Galahad, and the Knights Templar were monks).
True, but just as often, there is a romance storyline. Think Lancelot/Arthur/Guenivere. Or, hell, even some of the Disney princes. I think that this is what the trope is referring to. It would be cool to see the romance aspect explored with a gay character for once. I agree that it would be interesting since this is really not a story that has been told and certainly not in video games.
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Think Lancelot/Arthur/Guenivere. Or, hell, even some of the Disney princes. I think that this is what the trope is referring to. It would be cool to see the romance aspect explored with a gay character for once. I agree that it would be interesting since this is really not a story that has been told and certainly not in video games.
Fair enough on the Disney princes. Although I view Lancelot and Arthur differently. Their trope is about "lost potential" and "crushed dreams". The failed heroes, looking for redemption. Galahad saved all their sorry asses. Heh.
Fair enough on the Disney princes. Although I view Lancelot and Arthur differently. They're trope is "lost potential" and "crushed dreams". The failed heroes, looking for redemption. Galahad saved all their sorry asses. Heh.
Galahad was the best.
Plus, he was my favorite in Monty Python and the Holy Grail!
If I understand demisexuality correctly, couldn't a person be both bisexual AND demisexual? Or any of the other above listed orientations AND demisexual? We have no indication that demisexuality is off the table. Also, couldn't Merrill be construed as a demisexual bisexual woman?
Pretty sure you never played her character arc then. Sexually adventurous bard who stole things all the time? Betrayed by mentor? Raped(possibly) and sent on a roaring rampage of revenge?
Yeah, she was all that. With the important word being "was".
After she found the maker she is just the character that is in the game and that character is pretty good and well meaning.
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