Ok fast and quick question...I know Hawke is coming back in DAI and possibly Warden as well...now my question is about their look.Will Hawke and possibly Warden get some deuflat models or will their looks be taken from saves(wich can be problematic since I used tons of mods in DA2) or do we create them the same way as Inquisitor trough character creation(wich would be great)?
Just wondering...
Warden has been confirmed not to be making an appearance and they have confirmed you will be able to customize Hawke to look like your Hawke. (PS there is no save file transferring at all in DAI)
Hawke will probably be remade in game if you don't use the default look the Keep asks for. The Warden isn't in game.
^Why did they ignore the Warden? He is the best PC Bioware did in the last 10 years.
^Why did they ignore the Warden? He is the best PC Bioware did in the last 10 years.
They are not ignoring our Wardens the Devs have said there will be some missions involving them but they will not appear in person .
^Why did they ignore the Warden? He is the best PC Bioware did in the last 10 years.
I like that the Warden isn't appearing. I feel like if they appeared they'd make him talk. Our Wardens do not speak, it's forbidden!
I just want to know if we're going to be able to use like the portrait of our Hawkes (since our accounts have portraits, and those are supposed to carry over via the Keep) for a reference in-game or just work from memory.
They are not 100% similar. (Second default warden's face in DAO) But frostbite engine and etc. Morrigan looks different too by the way imho.
My guess is that the Warden is going to somehow factor into those war table missions, but you won't see the Warden in person.
If you have modded hair or something like that, I doubt it will transfer over...But we will get the chance to customize Hawke.
Nope....I modded entire game you could say...from hairstyles,to skintones,to eye colores,to additional hair/eyebrow colors,skin complexion to even face presets as well...so yeah my DA2 game is pretty too much heavy modded so that is why I panicked at thought that Hawke will look as in my save game(wich -skin tones,-hair colors,-hair,-tattoos,-face preset,-eye color,-sking complexion)...made me wonder on how will my Hawke turn out to look like 
(I present to you Hawke with no mods...pretty isn't she)
So yeah this kind of thing crossed my head lol so not pretty 
That is why I wanted to know do I get to create Hawke again in Inquisition and get desired look or am I stuck with something like...this thing...oh boy I better stop staring at this Hawke she looks like she wants to eat my soul 
lol yup *facepalm*there it is and it does exist lol...but when I made it I did at same time I made profile at forums and as you know it goes at some waiting time...so I noticed all my posts in check but for some reason the post I made was no where to be found(at least it was none-existent when I checked for it) so I was not sure did I made post at all or did it go trough so I re-made post lol but yeah that one was the original one xD 
lol yup *facepalm*there it is and it does exist lol...but when I made it I did at same time I made profile at forums and as you know it goes at some waiting time...so I noticed all my posts in check but for some reason the post I made was no where to be found(at least it was none-existent when I checked for it) so I was not sure did I made post at all or did it go trough so I re-made post lol but yeah that one was the original one xD
lol it takes some time for post to appear after you just have created account on forums xD so don't worry I know on what you mean.
Now for Warden I don't think he/she will appear(or mabye will we will see) as for Hawke I heared you can costumize Hawke's look in game.
Mike has said we will customize Hawke in a CC in game.
The warden will not be in game but he will get "more than a passing mention."
I wonder how they're going to do the CC for Hawke, because it would spoil it for people who have been trying to not learn any secrets about DA:I if they did it at the beginning after the Inquisitor CC. If they did it in the middle of the game though then it would feel awkward, because you're interrupting gameplay for this maybe lengthy CC, and then there's the fact that it would be obvious what was coming next...
Maybe there will be a scene or something where your Inquisitor will look at a picture or something of Hawke and you have to do the CC there, and then it appears in that picture after the CC... I feel like that would still interrupt gameplay a bit though.
^Why did they ignore the Warden? He is the best PC Bioware did in the last 10 years.
Because the Warden isn't a character. He/She is a blank slate Mary Sue power fantasy for people to project themselves onto.
Becaus the Warden isn't a character. He/She is a blank slate Mary Sue power fantasy for people to project themselves onto.
I just don't understand how people can project onto that soulless robot. I'm a big believe in power fantasy oriented projection, I just need my Protagonist to actually be a part of the world to do that, which is why I like VO.
I wonder how they're going to do the CC for Hawke, because it would spoil it for people who have been trying to not learn any secrets about DA:I if they did it at the beginning after the Inquisitor CC. If they did it in the middle of the game though then it would feel awkward, because you're interrupting gameplay for this maybe lengthy CC, and then there's the fact that it would be obvious what was coming next...
Maybe there will be a scene or something where your Inquisitor will look at a picture or something of Hawke and you have to do the CC there, and then it appears in that picture after the CC... I feel like that would still interrupt gameplay a bit though.
I think someone suggested that we ask Varric what Hawke looks like and that's when we jump into the CC. Obviously this is speculation but pretty cool if true.
I just don't understand how people can project onto that soulless robot. I'm a big believe in power fantasy oriented projection, I just need my Protagonist to actually be a part of the world to do that, which is why I like VO.
With a voiceless protagonist people can pretend that the hero sounds like themselves. It helps with the self-projection. Personally, I think that playing as yourself in an rpg is incredibly boring and misses the entire point of the genre.
With a voiceless protagonist people can pretend that the hero sounds like themselves. It helps with the self-projection. Personally, I think that playing as yourself in an rpg is incredibly boring and misses the entire point of the genre.
Really? I quite enjoy self projection myself though I found the Warden's conversations to be a tad awkward.
Because the Warden isn't a character. He/She is a blank slate Mary Sue power fantasy for people to project themselves onto.
Yeah that is the best way to make a PC I do not wanna control someone with his personality I wanna control someone who is what I wanna be there and I am glad that DAI will bring that back
I think someone suggested that we ask Varric what Hawke looks like and that's when we jump into the CC. Obviously this is speculation but pretty cool if true.
Exactly my thoughts. Varric is pretty our go-to guy for stories about Hawke.
Though if our Warden isn't going to be included in any CC menu, I'd imagine Leliana isn't going to be helpful.
Exactly my thoughts. Varric is pretty our go-to guy for stories about Hawke.
Who the hell would want to hear stories about Hawke?!
I just don't understand how people can project onto that soulless robot. I'm a big believe in power fantasy oriented projection, I just need my Protagonist to actually be a part of the world to do that, which is why I like VO.
It's different for many people. Some like you dislike the soulless robot that is our Warden, but some of us (like myself) like the freedom in it. To me, no voice-overs mean that I have no boundaries in imagining my Warden's tone/pitch of voice.
Then again, I imagine the focus of DAO is the Blight that puts our Warden on a leader-like pedestal to save Ferelden whereas in DA][, the focus might have switched to more personal events, which then heightened the importance of protagonist VOs.
Consider two similar situations: Facing your inevitably-dead parents in the Cousland origin story, and having Leandra die in your arms. There was no VO in the first (DAO), that had a significantly smaller impact on me. The second (DA][), did have a VO, and I cried.
My point about VOs aside, what I like about Inquisition is that BioWare is combining two essential elements to create a greater depth of gameplay experience - that is, putting you on a leader-like pedestal plus giving you freedom on your origins, and giving your Inquisitor a VO plus options for the accent of your VO plus greater emotional depth in playing the game whilst travelling around Thedas and with your companions.
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