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[orangebox16]

Flemeth is by far one of the most interesting and enigmatic characters in the entire Dragon Age World. I have always thought about this character. Here are my two theories:

 

1. Flemeth( from DA:O ), Morrigan, and Flemeth (from DA 2) are separate people who work together to manipulate events in Thedas; similar to the three witches in Macbeth.

 

2. Perhaps The three aforementioned characters are fragments of an old gpd OR fragments of Andraste herself. After all wasn't it said that Andraste could turn into a dragon or was a dragon or something. Additionally we already know that Flemeth can fragment her power into items (because of the events of DA2).

 

Having said that, the nature of her 'splitting pieces of herself' thing is kind of almost identical to what a charming young man once did, a man who could speak to snakes.

 

Finally, will she make an appearance in DA:I? I think so.

 

DISCUSS!

[Deadman Inc. 73]

She's been confirmed so maybe

[MageTarot]

If you take a look at the latest trailer, towards the end there's a fight between two dragons. I'm pretty sure one of them is Flemeth. As for the other dragon, could it be Morrigan? 

[LightningPoodle]

According to the Dragon Age Wikia, Morrigan implies that Flemeth is more closely connected to the Blight than anyone suspects. I'm thinking she is one of the Tevinter Magisters who entered the Golden City. But more than that, probably the one who opened the portal, the one who encouraged the others to go there. The big bad mage. It could also be why she didn't fear the Darkspawn from going near her hut in the Korcari Wilds. If she is one of the first Darkspawn, she would have certain powers over them and because she is one of, if not thee first she could be more powerful than the Old Gods themselves.

 

We know she still grows old and that's why she needs to steal the life of her daughters to survive. Perhaps that is a repercussion of being one of the first. I don't know if Darkspawn have a lifespan but from what I can tell, they can live for a very long time. Evolution is working its magic.

 

Edit: Of course, it is a wiki so you can't trust everything you read.

[orangebox16]

According to the Dragon Age Wikia, Morrigan implies that Flemeth is more closely connected to the Blight than anyone suspects. I'm thinking she is one of the Tevinter Magisters who entered the Golden City. But more than that, probably the one who opened the portal, the one who encouraged the others to go there. The big bad mage. It could also be why she didn't fear the Darkspawn from going near her hut in the Korcari Wilds. If she is one of the first Darkspawn, she would have certain powers over them and because she is one of, if not thee first she could be more powerful than the Old Gods themselves.

 

We know she still grows old and that's why she needs to steal the life of her daughters to survive. Perhaps that is a repercussion of being one of the first. I don't know if Darkspawn have a lifespan but from what I can tell, they can live for a very long time. Evolution is working its magic.

 

Edit: Of course, it is a wiki so you can't trust everything you read.

Well according to a wiki I read the old gods were trapped underground by the Maker and so they spoke to the magisters through the fade and convinced them to enter the Golden City and also taught them magic.

[AlexiaRevan]

According to the Dragon Age Wikia, Morrigan implies that Flemeth is more closely connected to the Blight than anyone suspects. I'm thinking she is one of the Tevinter Magisters who entered the Golden City. But more than that, probably the one who opened the portal, the one who encouraged the others to go there. The big bad mage. It could also be why she didn't fear the Darkspawn from going near her hut in the Korcari Wilds. If she is one of the first Darkspawn, she would have certain powers over them and because she is one of, if not thee first she could be more powerful than the Old Gods themselves.

 

We know she still grows old and that's why she needs to steal the life of her daughters to survive. Perhaps that is a repercussion of being one of the first. I don't know if Darkspawn have a lifespan but from what I can tell, they can live for a very long time. Evolution is working its magic.

 

Edit: Of course, it is a wiki so you can't trust everything you read.

There are many theories about her . I heard one where it is implyed she was an Old God (Not archdemon)..or a God that was cast away and who want to return to its old glory . 

[myahele]

I just realized that flemeth DOES kill a darkspawn with her mouth in DA2.

granted all our companions minus siblings fought darkspawn, so that observation is kinda moot.

[orangebox16]

I just realized that flemeth DOES kill a darkspawn with her mouth in DA2.

granted all our companions minus siblings fought darkspawn, so that observation is kinda moot.

 

Which observation?

[Apostate.]

I just realized that flemeth DOES kill a darkspawn with her mouth in DA2.

granted all our companions minus siblings fought darkspawn, so that observation is kinda moot.

If Last Flight is to believed that would be a sure fire way to get infected with the taint,

but maybe Flemeth is immune as she isn't a mere creature?

 

Could also just be oversight.

[Terodil]

Can dragons be... scratch that, of course dragons can be tainted.

 

Wow. Thanks @Myahele, that's a fascinating point I hadn't noticed before.

 

Re: Old God: Grey Wardens claim to know where all the remaining Old Gods are. Of course, this is subject to numerous further assumptions (truthfulness of that claim; static and correctly identified number of Old Gods; ...), but most people consider that reason enough to reject the idea that Flemeth is an Old God.

[Lady Mutare]

Well I still think Flemeth and Andraste are the same person.

[foolishquinn]

I quite like your theory, I am not sure if I agree with it.I still think she has purley evlfen links the all gods mother mentioned by merril on sundermount.
Its never a dragon age game without everybodys cryptic old lady.

[myahele]

I'm not sure about time line but according to Qunari Calenhad was a commoner that traded a secret with a witch to gain power. That witch led him to a dying Great Dragon where he drank its blood.

 

Was this witch Flemeth incarnation? Either this witch has the same MO as Flemeth and her daughters: make a deal with a Theirin and that Theirin disappears for x reason and there's dragons involved. 

 

What secret could that be I wonder?

[BeastWarrior5674]

I like the idea of Flemeth being Andraste. I just thought about the fact that the story of Andraste being betrayed by her husband because she was taken by the maker to be his wife is pretty similar to the story of Flemeth being hunted by her husband because she fell in love with another man. And I also think the idea of her being one of the mages who tainted the makers kingdom is interesting. I think Flemeth might be one of those characters they we are never supposed to fully understand

[Black Jimmy]

A sexy older woman

 

I'll go actually read the first now...

 

EDIT: I stick by my initial statement.

Other than that, I don't know. But if that was Flemeth in the "Hero of Thedas" trailer, then she gets her arse kicked by Zombie Dragon

[Reptillius]

Unless I missed something Flemeth taking over the bodies of her daughters isn't actually confirmed. We only hear it from Morrigan and we only hear it as an excuse to kill Flemeth.  We know that Morrigan's primary goal in all of that was to get her Grimoire but we don't know what she really found in that book.  Morrigan is well known not only for skirting the truth but occasionally outright lying to get what she wants.

 

I've argued in a couple of threads that She may be something similar or perhaps a step above an abomination in a similar vein to Wynne and Anders, or that she may be potentially something else working to manipulate the history of Thedas in certain directions along with Sandal since they are both so heavily involved with each of our heroes in the dragon age and conveniently extremely useful to each of them at pivotal moments.  I don't see that changing for DA:I.

[Hydwn]

Warden: "Is Flemeth really what she seems to be?"
Morrigan: (Chuckles)"Well that depends, does it not? What does she seem to be?"
Warden: "A nutty old bat."
Morrigan approves +1



As someone else mentioned, she's been confirmed. Her voice actress Kate Mulgrew was one of the first actors confirmed for Inquisition.

Me, I'm in the "Flemeth was an old god" tribe, with the sub-tribe of "Flemeth was a mage who merged with her own Old God child using her body-surfing ritual and became something else."

(Yes, there are enough of us to constitute a tribe!)

I'm guessing that that old god was Toth, the third Archdemon and dragon of fire. Flemeth was born in 3:00 Towers, and Toth died 25 years later in 3:25 towers.  We know the sword that killed Toth (it became the three daggers Thorn of the Dead Gods) but no one has ever recorded the name of the Grey Warden who killed Toth.  There were whole armies dead on the battlefield, so I'm guessing no one thought it was strange they didn't know who Toth's killer was.  It would have been a simple matter for her to make an Old God child under those circumstances - maybe the sword that became the Thorn of the Dead God was hers.

 

But that's only one of many theories.  Other popular ones are that she's an old god who escaped her prison, that she's Andraste, or the Maker, or one of the Elven Forgotten Ones, or our future Elder One, or a Tevinter Magister - or some combination of those things.  Who knows if I'm right, but I trust Morrigan that she's a real threat, so I'm guessing she's not Andraste.  And the devs said they'd never confirm nor deny the existence of the Maker.  

[boissiere]

Flemeth is an awesome creation from Bioware; no one argues.

I hope that her participation in DA I will lead to peculiar interactions with Morrigan exactly like IN DA O. However, do you remember that, when Morrigan asked you to kill her in DA O, she said that she can't face her directly because Flemeth could take her body. I wonder if that kind of old information will have any impact in game.

[heretica]

Well I still think Flemeth and Andraste are the same person.

 

That's a very interesting idea. I hadn't thought of it. I only hope she doesn't end up as the start child of ME3.

[Dracon525]

I fully love the idea of Flemeth being Andraste. I remember thinking it up as a joke at first, then finding people on here that thought the same. Was throroughly pleased

[LightningPoodle]

I fully love the idea of Flemeth being Andraste. I remember thinking it up as a joke at first, then finding people on here that thought the same. Was throroughly pleased

 

That's similar to the L+R=J theory in Game of Thrones. O how I felt sadness when I realised I was not the first...

[LightningPoodle]

http://dragonage.wik..._Forbidden_Ones

 

Could it be that Flemeth is The Formless One? Seeing as she can transform into a dragon and possibly other stuff as well.

[Terodil]

That's similar to the L+R=J theory in Game of Thrones. O how I felt sadness when I realised I was not the first...

 

It's a code! LeeRoy Jenkins! RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[orangebox16]

I like the idea of Flemeth being Andraste. I just thought about the fact that the story of Andraste being betrayed by her husband because she was taken by the maker to be his wife is pretty similar to the story of Flemeth being hunted by her husband because she fell in love with another man. And I also think the idea of her being one of the mages who tainted the makers kingdom is interesting. I think Flemeth might be one of those characters they we are never supposed to fully understand

 

Yeah I'd rather speculate forever than be potentially disappointed by the blunt truth of her existence.