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I agree but I would refer you to any number of females on here that protested the look of more traditionally feminine women or voluptuous women like Isabella.  I think Bioware would rather not make people happy with gowns rather than tick off people with gowns.

A choice would have offended no one. You could have the masculine, waist thickening, shoulder widening nutcracker uniform (but in different colors) OR a more feminine outfit and either could be chosen by both genders.

 

I'd like something like this but where the shoulder parts don't extend past the actual shoulders, and maybe longer. (Or just give me Vivienne's outfits for both genders)

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It looks like military dress uniform and you're there  as leader of the inquisition so it makes sense. You are also there to stop an assassination and you don't know you're going to have time to put armour on if **** goes down.

 

I know caring more about being a decorative piece than actually doing anything useful is a feminine thing now but I'd rather have an inquisitor I can actually respect.

How does it make sense? That nutcracker suit doesn't give any more protection than something feminine would. If I'm there as a leader of a "military organization" then I want to wear full plate dress armor. If I'm there to play The Game, then I should be stunning. If I'm there to blend in and seek information to stop an assassin (which we are) then we should blend in, not stick out. No one else in Thedas has clothes like that nutcracker suit, it's from a completely different historical period than what the rest of the game is inspired by.


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How does it make sense? That nutcracker suit doesn't give any more protection than something feminine would. If I'm there as a leader of a "military organization" then I want to wear full plate dress armor. If I'm there to play The Game, then I should be stunning. If I'm there to blend in and seek information to stop an assassin (which we are) then we should blend in, not stick out. No one else in Thedas has clothes like that nutcracker suit, it's from a completely different historical period than what the rest of the game is inspired by.

 

Actually, all Orlesian finery is from a similar period as the uniform (while the play made it iconic, it's actually period accurate military dress). 

 

The problem with DA dress is that each country seems to be from a different historical period. 


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A choice would have offended no one. You could have the masculine, waist thickening, shoulder widening nutcracker uniform (but in different colors) OR a more feminine outfit and either could be chosen by both genders.

 

I'd like something like this but where the shoulder parts don't extend past the actual shoulders, and maybe longer. (Or just give me Vivienne's outfits for both genders)

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It shouldn't look like that because it's not made out of thin stretchy material to conform to your body shape exactly. It doesn't do that for guys and shouldn't for girls.

 

I'm also not "offended". 



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It shouldn't look like that because it's not made out of thin stretchy material to conform to your body shape exactly. It doesn't do that for guys and shouldn't for girls.

 

I'm also not "offended". 

You read a post which was a reply to someone else, and not the one that was a reply to you, however that same skin tight look could easily be achieved through proper tailoring.



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You read a post which was a reply to someone else, and not the one that was a reply to you, however that same skin tight look could easily be achieved through proper tailoring.

I apologise,  I skimmed through too quickly and got that mixed up.



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Actually, all Orlesian finery is from a similar period as the uniform (while the play made it iconic, it's actually period accurate military dress). 

 

The problem with DA dress is that each country seems to be from a different historical period. 

And what period might that be? Thedas' culture hasn't yet invented gunpowder, mass production, efficient means of travel, etc...The Orlesian clothing itself looks like a fantasy amalgam and doesn't closely resemble any historical period to me unlike the nutcracker uniform. (especially with those slim skirts paired with the high standing collars and bell sleeves, it's like franken-clothing). Also, why is the inquisition the only group in the entire series wearing such a uniform? Your own inquisition soldiers, diplomats, advisors, etc...none of them ever wear this getup outside that ball. It's jarring in addition to being unflattering on female characters.



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And what period might that be? Thedas' culture hasn't yet invented gunpowder, mass production, efficient means of travel, etc...The Orlesian clothing itself looks like a fantasy amalgam and doesn't closely resemble any historical period to me unlike the nutcracker uniform. (especially with those slim skirts paired with the high standing collars and bell sleeves, it's like franken-clothing). Also, why is the inquisition the only group in the entire series wearing such a uniform? Your own inquisition soldiers, diplomats, advisors, etc...none of them ever wear this getup outside that ball. It's jarring in addition to being unflattering on female characters.

 

Orlais is this weird mix of 17th-18th century Europe. It's just the fashion, not the technology. It's a confusing hodgepodge. 

 

The Inquisition having its own uniform is not problematic. It's that it's an ugly nonsense uniform. I don't disagree with that one. 


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I don't have anything against a dress uniform, but what bugs me most, is that the one we have doesn't even look vaguely affiliated with the rest of the Inquisition in terms of uniform. It has none of the same colours, style or any actual inquisitorial badges/insignia! I would have preferred the one Threnn and other officers wear, minus the hat.

 

We actually look like a mounty. And as cool as they are, they don't look like inquisitors. :P


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I don't have anything against a dress uniform, but what bugs me most, is that the one we have doesn't even look vaguely affiliated with the rest of the Inquisition in terms of uniform. It has none of the same colours, style or any actual inquisitorial badges/insignia! I would have preferred the one Threnn and other officers wear, minus the hat.

 

I wouldn't mind that. The actual ball uniform is quite interesting in that it doesn't make me think of the Inquisition. Our colors seem to be green and orange, which I actually like together in uniforms like Threnn. It would have made more sense to wear that, than this sudden uniform that doesn't quite fit with any other looks or fashions.

 

Edit: But I still want an actual dress. Or Josie's clothes. Or Vivienne's. Anyone with modding knowledge know the answer to my question on the previous page?



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Orlais is this weird mix of 17th-18th century Europe. It's just the fashion, not the technology. It's a confusing hodgepodge. 

 

The Inquisition having its own uniform is not problematic. It's that it's an ugly nonsense uniform. I don't disagree with that one. 

 

That uniform is more like 1900 century. It even has WW2 german ammo pack in its back.



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I'd like to  see a full closet of cloths for the inquisitor (Like ME3) and or a chance to design what the uniforms look like from pre-sets and a chance to colour them in like in the armour tailor but for the ball



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And what period might that be? Thedas' culture hasn't yet invented gunpowder, mass production, efficient means of travel, etc...The Orlesian clothing itself looks like a fantasy amalgam and doesn't closely resemble any historical period to me unlike the nutcracker uniform.

 

This is actually problematic to me in the game, fashion always reflects culture. Fashion in Thedas makes no sense whatsoever, there are too many modern elements there and too many silly elements that just exist for cool factor. The only consistent fashion that  makes sense in the game is the Orlesian, and even that has its flaws,  everything else is just thrown in together.

 

The nutcracker uniform is weird and out of place, same with sneakers and modern boots,  same with Solas bakpack, same with huge statues  that just exist to impress, they are all unnatural amalgam with no  purpose other that "it's cool".


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Orlais is this weird mix of 17th-18th century Europe. It's just the fashion, not the technology. It's a confusing hodgepodge. 

 

The Inquisition having its own uniform is not problematic. It's that it's an ugly nonsense uniform. I don't disagree with that one. 

I wish they had sat down before the games were made and come up with a solid style concept for each country we'd be visiting or meeting people from: a general look for the nobility, peasants, and soldiers of each nation. I hate that the dress uniform looks like someone pulled it out of their butt before the ball. It doesn't match with any existing in-game style, none of our inquisition members had ever worn it before, it doesn't tie in to our heraldry or our inquisition soldier and scout's uniforms, it came from nowhere. It's like the day before the ball, one of the advisors thought "guys we need a uniform! You there requisition officer, be useful for once and sew 7 matching, one-size-fits-all outfits for the ball. Just make something up, I don't care!"


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I wish they had sat down before the games were made and come up with a solid style concept for each country we'd be visiting or meeting people from: a general look for the nobility, peasants, and soldiers of each nation. I hate that the dress uniform looks like someone pulled it out of their butt before the ball. It doesn't match with any existing in-game style, none of our inquisition members had ever worn it before, it doesn't tie in to our heraldry or our inquisition soldier and scout's uniforms, it came from nowhere. It's like the day before the ball, one of the advisors thought "guys we need a uniform! You there requisition officer, be useful for once and sew 7 matching, one-size-fits-all outfits for the ball. Just make something up, I don't care!"

 

Actually, I'm pretty sure it came from Prince William's wedding. :P 


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Actually, I'm pretty sure it came from Prince William's wedding. :P

I knew the inquisition was trying to save money, but I didn't know they'd go so far as stealing hand-me-down dress uniforms :D


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I wish they had sat down before the games were made and come up with a solid style concept for each country we'd be visiting or meeting people from: a general look for the nobility, peasants, and soldiers of each nation. I hate that the dress uniform looks like someone pulled it out of their butt before the ball. It doesn't match with any existing in-game style, none of our inquisition members had ever worn it before, it doesn't tie in to our heraldry or our inquisition soldier and scout's uniforms, it came from nowhere. It's like the day before the ball, one of the advisors thought "guys we need a uniform! You there requisition officer, be useful for once and sew 7 matching, one-size-fits-all outfits for the ball. Just make something up, I don't care!"

Oh, I totally agree. It has nothing to do with anything, and then they introduce (or emphasize) this "all Orlesians wear masks" thing, except we don't, which is even stranger. I just don't understand any element of the uniform for the Inquisition, where characters essentially dress down for the whole affair. 



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Lack of options is always boring. It`s a gala military uniform, so I can cope with females using it, but it would be better if you could actually choose from a few options

 

What really breaks the immersion for me at that point is the freaking ball!! How the **** did my murdering qunari tal vashoth mercenary learn how to dance?? Seriously, how?! 



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The nutcracker uniform is weird and out of place, same with sneakers and modern boots,  same with Solas bakpack, same with huge statues  that just exist to impress, they are all unnatural amalgam with no  purpose other that "it's cool".

If you stick to that argument, you could probably say the same about most art. You don`t really need a clear purpose for doing a lot of things other than because you want to



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If you stick to that argument, you could probably say the same about most art. You don`t really need a clear purpose for doing a lot of things other than because you want to

erm... not really? firstly it depends on the art and who is doing it and for what, you will find that even abstract art has purpose and concept behind it.

 

The art in the game exist to bring flesh and aesthetic into it. No character is drawn the way he/she are drawn just because, they are done in a specific way because  it fits their character, same should apply to the rest of the game. The game for the most part lacks logic in this regard.

 

Drawing without any purpose and because it's cool is fine when you draw for yourself, not when you are building a world that needs to have structure behind it and to feel real.


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I know there has to be a way for our fem inquisitors to wear a dress at the ball. I need my quizzy to look like a lady. She is noble, why does she have to wear pants like the men???? :/ Why no dresses for our Herald?????? :huh: :wub: :angry:



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I would love it if Josephine would just ask "Now, for the ball...would you like your companions to wear a standard uniform as a sign of solidarity or would you prefer them to be fitted in formal attire befitting their stations and preferences?" 

 

You could choose. Uniform means you get the ugly...thing...we have now.

The other means that Femquisitors get a dress, males get a nice tunic outfit and each party member that you take gets a formal outfit in their own personal style. (Leliana's including some blue satin shoes from a certain friend no less.) 

 

That way if someone with a femquisitor doesn't WANT her to wear a dress they can choose the uniform option. 



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It's a ball to negotiate the civil war, not a fashion show.



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It's a ball to negotiate the civil war, not a fashion show.

Are you not familiar with Orlais? It is definitely a fashion show. In fact, our court approval should have been zero for showing up dressed as a bunch of turnips.


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Are you not familiar with Orlais? It is definitely a fashion show. In fact, our court approval should have been zero for showing up dressed as a bunch of turnips.

Which is why there are uniforms, be glad that we didn't go there wearing those atrocious pajamas. :P