I would have scrapped RGB, and just have the Crucible bring down the kinetic barriers of the Reapers, leaving them weakened, but still dangerous. The condition of the galaxy would be dependent on how big a military force is there to take advantage of the Reapers' weakened state.
Heh, you know what? I like that idea a lot 
It's not as overpowered as "a device who can kill several million-year old and all-powerful machines", and makes the War Assets keep a bit of respect.
Then I have to believe that people know better than the writers themselves what is Mass Effect and how it was written. The writers and producers purpose is nothing. Only players who dislike the ending know what is Mass Effect. I'm not sure you're right.
Heh, you know what? I like that idea a lot
...b-but i was first to say that 
Yeah, i think this idea is the best. It has both elements of:
a. Multiple cycles working together, in a way.
b. Reasonable means to beat overwhelming force.
c. Conventional victory which has heroism, sacrifice, courage, etc, etc. And, of course, epic space battles.
Then I have to believe that people know better than the writers themselves what is Mass Effect and how it was written. The writers and producers purpose is nothing. Only players who dislike the ending know what is Mass Effect. I'm not sure you're right.
Well, players who still discuss the ending sure do have more affinity to series than writers, who wrote something that created unparalleled outcry (in terms of gaming industry, of course)
Then I have to believe that people know better than the writers themselves what is Mass Effect and how it was written. The writers and producers purpose is nothing. Only players who dislike the ending know what is Mass Effect. I'm not sure you're right.
Mass Effect: Deception.
Just because something is official doesn't mean its perfect and everyone else is wrong. Honestly I'd be surprised if the writers knew as much about the lore as a die-hard fan. The trilogy was not all written by just one guy, afterall. Where as the die-hards played the trilogy, all the DLC, read the codexs and probably even spent time reading the wiki to make sure they know everything. Find someone crazy/dedicated enough they could probably recite insanely specific lore-facts to you by memory alone, where as a writer who didn't necessarily handle THAT part of the story in the game will be all "uhhh..."
Fans, generally speaking, obsess about the details more than the writers. This applys to a lot more than just Mass Effect. At least this has been my observation of die-hard fans over the years. Others experiences with them may vary.
Good guys win,reapers die,and all the knowledge/information of the past if recovered by Liara who uses it to advance stuff like well everything. Yeah I'm not good at writing things. In short the green ending minus the cons...I guess?
Good guys win,reapers die,and all the knowledge/information of the past if recovered by Liara who uses it to advance stuff like well everything. Yeah I'm not good at writing things. In short the green ending minus the cons...I guess?
One of the cons being the 'change all life in the galaxy' bit? Because that pretty much is the entire point of that ending.
Reapers win, they cannot be beaten.
Endgame would either be trying to make sure the next cycle knows about the Crucible as fast as possible, or knows about the Reapers as fast as possible to seek them out in Dark Space, or it would be to build a stasis bunker and get as many as possible of all species in.
You lose your entire squad, all of them, one by one, trying to achieve this end game. Final scene of the game is Shepard being headshotted on Earth after returning there.
I'll give you bleak, damnit.
@Psyche the unhinging would have left the internet a desolate wasteland. 
Reapers win, they cannot be beaten.
Endgame would either be trying to make sure the next cycle knows about the Crucible as fast as possible, or knows about the Reapers as fast as possible to seek them out in Dark Space, or it would be to build a stasis bunker and get as many as possible of all species in.
You lose your entire squad, all of them, one by one, trying to achieve this end game. Final scene of the game is Shepard being headshotted on Earth after returning there.
I'll give you bleak, damnit.
Can you imagine the outcry? People hate anything that is not a happy ending.
Can you imagine the outcry? People hate anything that is not a happy ending.
Sounds like a MEHEM ending to me
http://www.youtube.c...H8rxEvPFQ#t=210
As long as it's the Low EMS outcome, of course 
I honestly believed ME would end in the way I just described, maybe a bit less dark and all, but I figured victory would be out of the question.
Then my honey Liara came up with the Crucible and I was like: 'Aaah, we're going to win anyway. A shame, but lets see how this turns out.'
I kinda liked what they did tbh, but oh well.
Personally I think I'd be fine withe Reapers winning over the endings we got. Refuse would be my favorite ending had they not said via twitter that the next cycle uses the Crucible (despite being told it doesn't work).Can you imagine the outcry? People hate anything that is not a happy ending.
Personally I think I'd be fine withe Reapers winning over the endings we got. Refuse would be my favorite ending had they not said via twitter that the next cycle uses the Crucible (despite being told it doesn't work).
Reapers win, they cannot be beaten.
Endgame would either be trying to make sure the next cycle knows about the Crucible as fast as possible, or knows about the Reapers as fast as possible to seek them out in Dark Space, or it would be to build a stasis bunker and get as many as possible of all species in.
You lose your entire squad, all of them, one by one, trying to achieve this end game. Final scene of the game is Shepard being headshotted on Earth after returning there.
I'll give you bleak, damnit.
Alright alright you win. Maker plz.
Reapers win, they cannot be beaten.
Endgame would either be trying to make sure the next cycle knows about the Crucible as fast as possible, or knows about the Reapers as fast as possible to seek them out in Dark Space, or it would be to build a stasis bunker and get as many as possible of all species in.
You lose your entire squad, all of them, one by one, trying to achieve this end game. Final scene of the game is Shepard being headshotted on Earth after returning there.
I'll give you bleak, damnit.
This is how I honestly thought the "reaper win" ending would be. If your EMS was too low you have to then "save as many as you can" for a final mission. Then you get only a slight becon of hope with the possibility of the next cycle winning.
The one thing I didn't like about the refuse ending is that is blatantly tells you that a cycle eventually wins. That is a bit lame, I wanted it to be just a small glimmer of hope. The Liara hologram did that, the refuse stargazer scene killed it.
My 2 cents.
I'd made sure that the destroy ending would render all Reaper tech forever useless, including the Mass Relays and the Citadel. The underlying message should be that we refuse to walk on the path the Reapers laid out for us anymore and we reject all their solutions, even if that means the galactic community ceases to exist (as the races would be stranded on their solar systems unable to reach other parts of the galaxy). It isn't really necesary to destroy the Geth here, you already make the decision about them on Rannoch.
Control could include a pro Cerberus alternative where you give the control to a not indoctrinated TIM. (I don`t like Cerberus, but players had the option to side and sympathize with them and I think you should end what you started).
Synthesis, leave it as it is but make sure the player can clearly oppose this solution and the logic behind it.
Aside of this I`d rather have a better introduction and explanation for the crucible and a different explanation for the Reapers, but I don`thave any good Ideas myself. Other than that I wouldn`t change much.
Liara says in the refuse ending that the crucible didn't work
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=58W1DjQRamw
Heh, you know what? I like that idea a lot
Plus, it'd been cool to have a final showdown with Harbinger (the beam run doesn't count)
I would like Priority: Earth onwards replaced with this:
Reapers win, they cannot be beaten.
Endgame would either be trying to make sure the next cycle knows about the Crucible as fast as possible, or knows about the Reapers as fast as possible to seek them out in Dark Space, or it would be to build a stasis bunker and get as many as possible of all species in.
You lose your entire squad, all of them, one by one, trying to achieve this end game. Final scene of the game is Shepard being headshotted on Earth after returning there.
I'll give you bleak, damnit.
LOL! This. People should be thankful that they got the ending that they got, if I had been the writer, I would have figuratively sat them down and given them a life lesson.
LOL! This. People should be thankful that they got the ending that they got, if I had been the writer, I would have figuratively sat them down and given them a life lesson.
Life: so miserable and depressing that even in the fun entertaining fictional video games we use to escape the horrors of the real world we're still forced into depressing and miserable crap. Because *beep* you for wanting something brighter.
Life: so miserable and depressing that even in the fun entertaining fictional video games we use to escape the horrors of the real world we're still forced into depressing and miserable crap. Because *beep* you for wanting something brighter.
And no, books and movies are also entertainment, but many of them still focus on the horrors of the real world and people enjoy them. Game of Thrones is one of the most popular shows on TV ffs, and the quote that is used to capture the essence of that show is Ramsay's line "If you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention"
Video games aren't just toys for children anymore, it's time for the medium to mature and it's stories to mature alongside it. Thankfully many games are following this path.
By making a non-discriminating Destroy ending, 'cause clearly it was very discriminating. Also, the crucible is a giant microphone.
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