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"It's the engine's fault!" might work if I could think of a single Bioware game that good hair.

 

Seriously, I can't. It's like their bane. That and robes. For a while there, they really didn't like robes - which is how we wound up with a Star Wars game with none whatsoever.


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Where are the decent short hairstyles?!  :(


Man i'd love to have that last style. Really, long or short, I just want more traditional "feminine" looks. If im gonna be saving the world I want my female and male inquisitors to be glam.

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I mean we could have fixed the problem ourselves, except when you select a beard, the cheek/jaw options are disabled by the character creator and your characters face is given a weird cave-in, which makes the floaty beard problem far more noticeable. That is, indeed, Bioware's fault, and I just can't see any reason to do it.

 

Yeah, I know the caved in look you mean, annoyed me as well. But my point is that Bioware didn't go "Hey, let's make all beards force cheecks to be caved in, it'll be fun!"

 

There was no doubt some real reason they had to do it, and I'm sure they weren't happy about it. Just like they're probably not satisfied with their current hairstyles, but had no choice (or rather, they HAD a choice, and they chose to spend what limited time/resources they had on things they considered more important).

 

That said, given that they DID have some better hairstyles in the previous games (braided styles, especially), I'm thinking they had issue with the engine, and no time to fix them.

 

And before anyone points to some render people did in frostbite or maybe even a DAI NPC with better hair (probably will happen... I mean Duncan had an Uber Beard we couldn't recreate, after all), it's important to keep in mind that they have to deal with a lot more complexity because of all the customization options (it's easier to do a baked in appearance, than something generated on the fly, which has to handle all the various clothing/armor options and animations).


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"It's the engine's fault!" might work if I could think of a single Bioware game that good hair.

 

Seriously, I can't. It's like their bane. That and robes. For a while there, they really didn't like robes - which is how we wound up with a Star Wars game with none whatsoever.

 

 

Except for every Tevinter/Wild-man themed robe. Like what King Endrin wore, the Tevinter "Healers" in the Alienage, and the Reaper's Vestements.

 

Also, the Enchanter's robes from DA2, Robes of Unblemished Cleanliness, and *All* the DLC robes. Those were awesome.

 

And I liked the standard, quilted - furry shoulder robes that the Circle mages wore in DA2, uniform *And* comfy looking.

 

 

And as far as hair goes, I got nothin'. I like the fact that they chose to stick with 'safe' hairstyles in all the games that wouldn't look horrid in my favorite armors, or stick through my helmets, and I generally liked the hair in DA:O and DA2 (Minus the wanna-be dreads, and Friar Tuck's) 

 

All my opinion of course. 


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ON THE TOPIC OF ROBES! I LOVED DRAGON AGE 2'S CHAMPION PLATE/ROBES!

 

I LOVED THAT.

Idk why they'd ever stray from that, the best mage set EVER. Legendary. I wanted to dress up as it for Halloween even this year, timeless classic.


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Except for every Tevinter/Wild-man themed robe. Like what King Endrin wore, the Tevinter "Healers" in the Alienage, and the Reaper's Vestements.

 

Also, the Enchanter's robes from DA2, Robes of Unblemished Cleanliness, and *All* the DLC robes. Those were awesome.

 

And I liked the standard, quilted - furry shoulder robes that the Circle mages wore in DA2, uniform *And* comfy looking.

 

My brother actually loves that particular robe design - on a warrior. Because it looks all barbaric. He'll probably be happy since DAI's got a bit of Conan-esque fur and leather designs in some of the screencaps.

 

I'll second DA2's DLC robes. I can take or leave some of the other DLC sets, but the mage ones are all spectacular.


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"It's the engine's fault!" might work if I could think of a single Bioware game that good hair.

Seriously, I can't. It's like their bane. That and robes. For a while there, they really didn't like robes - which is how we wound up with a Star Wars game with none whatsoever.

And then Obsidian was able to create robes for the sequel. Just goes to show...
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ON THE TOPIC OF ROBES! I LOVED DRAGON AGE 2'S CHAMPION PLATE/ROBES!

 

I LOVED THAT.

Idk why they'd ever stray from that, the best mage set EVER. Legendary. I wanted to dress up as it for Halloween even this year, timeless classic.

They are a personal favorite of mine as well. It looks like mage Hawke is wearing them in Inquisition, so maybe something similar could show up for mage Inquisitors too?



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Hmmmm.

It could be an issue of69917-youre-too-******-blonde-gif-f-qP5

you hatin on blondes bro?  That's RACIST



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you hatin on blondes bro?  That's RACIST

 

Hah The Fastest of the Jimmy's/James'/Matthias' messin but I remember when the polls were up for what Default ME3 Femshep's appearance would be, and when the blonde option won, some people were calling her a bimbo

 

That was mental


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I'm not going to throw around accusations about developers being lazy. I just think hair was very, very low on the priorities list... an unfortunate coincidence when the game's amazing character customization is a selling point.

But hey, we have a two dimensional slider on a grid now for precision tweaking the shape of the tip of our character's nose, so it's all good! ;)

It isn't impossible to make attractive short hairstyles or a variety of interesting up-dos that avoid clipping. It just wasn't deemed necessary.
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"It's the engine's fault!" might work if I could think of a single Bioware game that good hair.
 
Seriously, I can't. It's like their bane..


Agreed

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you hatin on blondes bro? That's RACIST


Ha! You got me, my bad, my bad. I'm letting my follicle privilege get the better of me.
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Well said, basically it's accusing them of being lazy, which is a ludicrous accusation to level at any game developers (who spend months working ludicrous unpaid overtime to get games out the door).

 

That said, I'm pretty sure your reaction DID occur to them. They're not idiots, and their artists and designers as as good as we are at judging hairstyles. More likely they ran into technical difficulties with better hairstyles and were forced to make difficult choices (do we spent x man hours fixing the hair, or other more critical issues? And so on).

 

That said, concerning The Witcher 3, let's not forget we're comparing apples and oranges here. TW3 has far less customization than DAI, and doesn't have to deal with many of the issues the DAI team did. In other words, it's a lot easier to put a lot of focus on making hair work properly, when your protagonist is predetermined (for example, since you know precisely the shape of his head, it's easier to avoid clipping, and so on).

Yeah...no. Not having animated hair is a technical issue. Not having hair fall lower than the shoulders is a technical issue (potential clipping). Choosing to have randomly shaved temples is a stylistic choice. Choosing to have a mullet is a stylistic choice. Choosing to have 12 nearly identical versions of the same shaved head is a (yes lazy) stylistic choice. etc...

 

"Sorry guys, we wanted to have the head not shaved at the temples, but the engine just couldn't handle it I'm afraid. We wanted to have the straight across bangs be a fashionable length but the engine cuts them off itself so they look like one of the three stooges. None of us thought it was appropriate to put a mullet or a Miley Cyrus on the inquisitor, but the engine just had to have its' way!"

 

Just no.


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To be perfectly honest after watching this 


I'd just like to say I'm not one who complains at all... But I hate most of the hairstyles and can tolerate only like 2 of them?  Honestly I prefer all of these hairstyles on females by miles, whether feminine, tomboyish or even in between... Males on the other hand... *edited out because too harsh*

I guess I'll try to work around that, but hair styles (for males especially) need to be worked on >.> Some of us don't have buzzcuts, half cut hair (for lack of better term) or grow our hair that much <.<

 

A third of the options are buzzcuts OMG  :sick:

 

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What is that swept back hair hornless hairstyle on dude qunari? Does lady qunari have that because that actually looks semi bearable. It'd look better with horns but...

 

Edit: Lol not the second to last one. We have that godawful one.



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What is that second to last hornless hairstyle on dude qunari? Does lady qunari have that because that actually looks semi bearable. It'd look better with horns but...

 

TBD, I think.  This video claims that the male and female qunari share all of their options.  But some people are saying that when the devs showed off the female options, this one wasn't there.  I can't imagine that a fairly androgynous style like this would be male exclusive.  Why, with 22 options, would they pick one to be male only.  Just doesn't make sense.  I'm suspecting that it will be available for females as well and the people who thought they did all of the options in the female qunari CC video were just mistaken.



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Some of the styles I'm perfectly fine with. I liked the shaved thing. Some of the styles are godawful - like that thing with the little fringe at the front.

 

My main problem with the hair though is the modelling/texturing/rendering/whatever-the-correct-term-is. It's diabolical. The rest of the game looks utterly flawless in its design and texturing and yet that hair quality (regardless of the styles) looks like it could fit into Origins without a problem.

 

And the facial hair. God, the facial hair. I love me some beards, but they haven't even attempted to make it look like it grows out of follicles on the face. It's just stuck on with tape.

 

It makes the baby cheeses cry :(

 

It's all very... flat. The hair and facial hair. There's no volume to it at all. It's just layers of flat nothing.


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TBD, I think.  This video claims that the male and female qunari share all of their options.  But some people are saying that when the devs showed off the female options, this one wasn't there.  I can't imagine that a fairly androgynous style like this would be male exclusive.  Why, with 22 options, would they pick one to be male only.  Just doesn't make sense.  I'm suspecting that it will be available for females as well and the people who thought they did all of the options in the female qunari CC video were just mistaken.

 

We were missing one style I'm pretty sure. I assumed it was another bald. But if it was that one I'll be pleased.

 

if that one is male only I will lose my **** though. Because the qunari have few enough options as it is. Don't need gender splitting. :angry:

 

Edit: It's not second the last. I mean the one that looks swept back. Not that pathetic ponytail one.



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We were missing one style I'm pretty sure. I assumed it was another bald. But if it was that one I'll be pleased.

 

if that one is male only I will lose my **** though. Because the qunari have few enough options as it is. Don't need gender splitting. :angry:

 

Yeah, the people in the qunari hair thread said that they had seen all of the qunari female styles.  So, if they were mistaken and we were missing one, then this is it. 

 

I went through and watched it style-by-style and there were twenty two altogether. 

 

There were roughly 9-ish horn styles (some of them were kind of similar, but just a little different).  And four looks for hornless (all haircuts but cornrows).  There are only two types of "sheaths" for the horns:  smooth & shiny black and studded & grooved black.  Those show up on eight styles (three with the studded, five with the smooth).  Interestingly, none of the mohawk styles have sheathes and almost all of the cornrows do.  Then there are five hair cuts:  bald, mohawk, cornrows, mudbun, and the new short middle part.  It's five each of the bald, cornrow, and mohawk styles.  Six of the mudbuns.  One of the short middle part.

 

It's certainly not great, but I can work with it. 



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Yeah, the people in the qunari hair thread said that they had seen all of the qunari female styles.  So, if they were mistaken and we were missing one, then this is it. 

 

I went through and watched it style-by-style and there were twenty two altogether. 

 

There were roughly 9-ish horn styles (some of them were kind of similar, but just a little different).  And four looks for hornless (all haircuts but cornrows).  There are only two types of "sheaths" for the horns:  smooth & shiny black and studded & grooved black.  Those show up on eight styles (three with the studded, five with the smooth).  Interestingly, none of the mohawk styles have sheathes and almost all of the cornrows do.  Then there are five hair cuts:  bald, mohawk, cornrows, mudbun, and the new short middle part.  It's five each of the bald, cornrow, and mohawk styles.  Six of the mudbuns.  One of the short middle part.

 

It's certainly not great, but I can work with it. 

 

I'm pretty sure we're missing one. Or maybe the devs added it after the complaints :P (Honestly if that is what occured that style's fair enough for a rush job.)

 

I'm really hoping that's the case because if the one style I could use is for males only that'd be worse than it not existing at all :angry:

 

And since males got the mudbun there's really no reason fems shouldn't get swept back

 

Weird. You'd think they'd mixed the shathes up between the styles more.

 

But man why is there only one version of hair going back. They could've replaced some of the bald with horns with that (especially the cooper sheathed horns going back. I'd loved that :( ) The especially could've replaced that godawful mudbun with it. >_<


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I'm pretty sure we're missing one. Or maybe the devs added it after the complaints :P (Honestly if that is what occured that style's fair enough for a rush job.)

 

I'm really hoping that's the case because if the one style I could use is for males only that'd be worse than it not existing at all :angry:

 

And since males got the mudbun there's really no reason fems shouldn't get swept back

 

Weird. You'd think they'd mixed the shathes up between the styles more.

 

But man why is there only one version of hair going back. They could've replaced some of the bald with horns with that (especially the cooper sheathed horns going back. I'd loved that :( ) The especially could've replaced that godawful mudbun with it. >_<

 

I totally understand.  I think with this new short style, I've come to terms with my options.  I'm planning three qunari and think I can make do with one of these styles for each.

 

Male two-handed warrior - long ram horns with mohawk; short trimmed beard

Male support spec'd mage - no horns with short swept back middle part; stubble

Female ranged rogue - either bald with broken horns OR no horns with mudbun

 

I hate the mudbun, but I just really like the idea of her having long white hair, so mudbun it might have to be.  Although, my lady orc in Skyrim is bald and she is a badass, so I'm waiting to see which looks better on her. 


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I totally understand.  I think with this new short style, I've come to terms with my options.  I'm planning three qunari and think I can make do with one of these styles for each.

 

Male two-handed warrior - long ram horns with mohawk; short trimmed beard

Male support spec'd mage - no horns with short swept back middle part; stubble

Female ranged rogue - either bald with broken horns OR no horns with mudbun

 

I hate the mudbun, but I just really like the idea of her having long white hair, so mudbun it might have to be.  Although, my lady orc in Skyrim is bald and she is a badass, so I'm waiting to see which looks better on her. 

 

Yeah I can't...mudbun it just...it looks so bleh. I'd loved an actual bun style but mudbun looks small enough she might as well wore her hair out. I can't help looking at that and thinking "with hair that length why would you even bother to draw it into a bun?"

 

But I hope you have fun playing our metal giants :P

 

But yeah fem qunari mage I can play her if we get that swept back for ladies. She won't have her lovely horns but hell I'll make do. (But man the more I look at those beautiful long swept back horns stuck on that bald style the more I sigh) You'd think for females at least they'd replaced some of the bald with horns with swept back with horns but alas.

 

I guess I'll just hc my qunari lady had long hair but she cut it for reasons before the game started.



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For as long as game developers have been making games, fans have been making much, much, much better hairstyles via mods.


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What is it with all these hair style threads?