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[maddeninggamer]

She's probably in her mid-late 30s from what we've seen.

 

Here's the Official Timeline (Not the wiki, the actual DA:I Timeline)

 

26 according to the game files when you initially met her

1 year later, and the Hawke family fleeing Lothering from the Darkspawn which already had the Warden pass through once and leave, the fifth blight officially begins

6 years later the events in DA:2 officially end

4 years later the events of the Masked Empire and Asunder officially end.

 

In total she is 37 or 38 years old

 

All in all she is at her late 30's and it is conceivable that she's wearing makeup considering she has been rendered rugged with stress over the past 12 years.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Hum link please? in the dialogue she talk with Wynne if I am not mistaken that she is much older than she looks.

If you are right than maybe she has the same age as Celene because Celene is born on 9:6 and is Empress at 9:20, this means she was 14 and if Justinia V is made the Divine on 9:34 this means it is after the blight.

 

Now from TIM we know that Celene knew of Majory and Leliana, so that puts the Leliana DLC between 9:20 and 9: 30(the Bligh during DA:O), I am going to assume here that she has the same age as Celene, so the Leliana DLC would be maybe 9:27? But that would put her at her yearly 20s with 24 years old, which makes her remark with Wynne strange.

After some reflecting, maybe she was born on 9:02, which makes her 38 at 9:40. I still think that maybe Leliana is 40 years old.

Well, the files in DAO have her stated as 26(don't have a link but several people have said this), though this was clarified to be an age range to help the Voice Actors/Actresses. And someone in their mid twenties who looks like they are in their late teens or early twenties can say they are older than they look since she only says she is older not much older than she looks.

 

 

At least 2 years since Hawke and the Warden disappeared to Fade know's where

15 years total since the end of Origins

1-3  years she spent in the chantry

At 20 something since she was a bard.

 

All in all she is at her late 30's or early 40's

Not 15 years since DAO. Only 9-11. DAO ends in 9:31 and DAI takes place either in 9:40 or 9:42. 

[Ispan]

At least 2 years since Hawke and the Warden disappeared to Fade know's where

15 years total since the end of Origins

1-3  years she spent in the chantry

At 20 something since she was a bard.

 

All in all she is at her late 30's or early 40's and is probably rugged with stress all things considered and her wearing make up is probably conceivable.

 

DA:O ends in 9:31 and DA:I starts in 9:41 or 9:42 if I remember correctly, so take at least 5 years off your estimate.

 

Edit: What Kallen said ^^^

[Hanako Ikezawa]

DA:O ends in 9:31 and DA:I starts in 9:41 or 9:42 if I remember correctly, so take at least 5 years off your estimate.

 

Edit: What Kallen said ^^^

Last Flight takes place from 9:41-9:42 and has no mention of the Breach or anything in DAI. But that could be an oopsie on the author's part since Bioware also said it is as long after DA2 as it takes Cassandra, Leliana, Varric, and the others to get from Kirkwall to Haven, which is a few months.  

[maddeninggamer]

 

Well, the files in DAO have her stated as 26(don't have a link but several people have said this), though this was clarified to be an age range to help the Voice Actors/Actresses. And someone in their mid twenties who looks like they are in their late teens or early twenties can say they are older than they look since she only says she is older not much older than she looks.

 

 

Not 15 years since DAO. Only 9-11. DAO ends in 9:31 and DAI takes place either in 9:40 or 9:42. 

 

 Okay I figured out the actual timeline and she is officially 37 or 38 years old (37 minimum and 38 if there is a late/early birthday or something that has never been mentioned)

[Magdalena11]

I did notice that Leliana's skin is way too perfect, as if it might be a placeholder or something.  It creeps me out a bit, TBH.  I wonder how much she has changed.  They did say they altered some details of the trailers to avoid spoilers...(Don't know how they managed i with the demos, though.)

[YourFunnyUncle]

Youtube vids and twitch streams are heavily compressed and hence any still from them is going to be smeary-looking. There's no way that you can say with any degree of certainty that a twitch or youtube screengrab is representative of the detail we'll see in actual in-game graphics.

[nutcrackr]

In the first picture, she is clearly close to a light source, so it drowns out detail.

[Decepticon Leader Sully]

Hmm i think she ate some of those ashes.

[Mihura]

Hmm i think she ate some of those ashes.

 

Well that would explain a lot actually.

[myahele]

Leliana looks so doll like in many of her pictures. Its as if she had botox, cheem implants and lip injection.

[Yuoaman]

Last Flight takes place from 9:41-9:42 and has no mention of the Breach or anything in DAI. But that could be an oopsie on the author's part since Bioware also said it is as long after DA2 as it takes Cassandra, Leliana, Varric, and the others to get from Kirkwall to Haven, which is a few months.  

 

Technically it does have minor references to things in DAI:

 

Spoiler

A ranking Warden mentions that they haven't heard from the Warden-Commander of Orlais in quite a long time, and the Templars found only empty Warden fortresses and had to turn to Weisshaupt instead.

[Fizzie Panda]

Leliana looks so doll like in many of her pictures. Its as if she had botox, cheem implants and lip injection.

Well she is Orlesian after all

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Yeah, the notion of Leliana being in well into her 30s or 40s, yet looking like a young, fresh and nubile 20 year old is odd. 

 

If Leliana was a mage, I would not be too worried because magic could be used to make someone appear perpetually youthful or look good. Wynne, for example, has her magical bosom despite her age. Flemeth in DAO and Flemeth in DA 2 is another example. Morrigan in DAI which takes place 10 years after DAO and a childbirth.

 

But Leliana is a rogue. Maybe she has managed to discover some "Fountain of Youth" alchemical concoction. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Technically it does have minor references to things in DAI:

 

Spoiler

A ranking Warden mentions that they haven't heard from the Warden-Commander of Orlais in quite a long time, and the Templars found only empty Warden fortresses and had to turn to Weisshaupt instead.

True, though I always saw that as foreshadowing for DAI rather than referencing. Could be either though. 

 

Yeah, the notion of Leliana being in well into her 30s or 40s, yet looking like a young, fresh and nubile 20 year old is odd. 

 

If Leliana was a mage, I would not be too worried because magic could be used to make someone appear perpetually youthful or look good. Wynne, for example, has her magical bosom despite her age. Flemeth in DAO and Flemeth in DA 2 is another example. Morrigan in DAI which takes place 10 years after DAO and a childbirth.

 

But Leliana is a rogue. Maybe she has managed to discover some "Fountain of Youth" alchemical concoction. 

There are people in their 50s who look like Leliana, so either she is lucky and/or its the result of a healthy lifestyle. 

[Reptillius]

Looking younger than you are isn't actually that surprising. I myself am in my mid-30's and people generally don't believe me when they see me. They think I'm a decade younger than I am usually. (24 is the common guess these days).  So at least for me if Stress doesn't make me go grey or bald I'll probably be getting carded for drinks until I'm like 60 or so.

[LonewandererD]

She looks fine to me, though it would make sense that the mistress of secrecy and subtlety would be good at using concealer

 

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[LeBurns]

Youtube vids and twitch streams are heavily compressed and hence any still from them is going to be smeary-looking. There's no way that you can say with any degree of certainty that a twitch or youtube screengrab is representative of the detail we'll see in actual in-game graphics.

 

I agree, except that she is the only one that looks this bad.  She can be standing right next to other people and they have actual realistic skin textures, and she doesn't.  So if this was the issue it would be affecting everyone, not just her.  Granted her's might be more pronounced due to her being so pale skinned, but I've been going back over every video and twitch feed, and it's pretty obvious she's different.

 

As far as her age goes, I can accept that someone who is in their upper 30's can look younger than that, so that's not really an issue.

[animedreamer]

According to her dialogue she was 30s during DA:O which makes her 40s in DA:I

i dont recall her ever mentioning her age in origins or giving any reference to her age for that matter.

[Br3admax]

Leliana was born a few years before the Orlesians left Ferelden at the most. There's no way she's 40, even by the largest stretch of the imagination. 

[Hair Serious Business]

You know first time I saw Leliana in DA:I...I don't know I might be only one but...for some reason her face reminded me of Paris Hilton too much O_O

 

[animedreamer]

Leliana was born a few years before the Orlesians left Ferelden at the most. There's no way she's 40, even by the largest stretch of the imagination. 

 

When Leliana talks of her mother she says she was born is Orlai but her mother was from Ferelden (Denerim to be exact), and thus she considers herself Ferelden. So Leliana's mother was in Orlai sometime after the resistance defeated the Orlesians and resented any Orlesians who remained in Ferelden. This is supposedly when Lady Cecile left and took Leliana's mother with her. Let's assume it was two years before this became common practice in terms of driving out Orlesians who still lived in Ferelden. Timeline says 9:2 Dragon was when Ferelden overthrew Orlesian occupation, being generous lets assume it took about a year or 2 before all the Orlesians were driven from Ferelden, Leliana was likely born sometime in 9:3 or 9:4 Dragon. Leliana is likely 37 or 36 during the events of Inquisition.

 

There is good precedence to assume Leliana is kind of a cradle robber, no matter who she dates outside of the dwarf noble. This is just musings on my part though, since no one gives a exact age or date of when they were born in any origin, its all speculation.

[Reptillius]

Leliana doesn't actually specify that her mother was potentially pregnant with her when she left Fereldan so it's possible she's even younger than that.  Since it takes just months to travel and some might be stubborn or it might just take time to hear of things and arrange the movement of their households I'd give it a 5 year window for the Orlesian Nobles to work their way out of Fereldan.  You don't just move a noble household overnight specially when they feel a bit threatened in what is diplomatically seen as a peaceful neighboring country with some tensions.

 

As for being a cradle robber. Not really. Both the Dalish and City Elf Origin characters were old enough to be considering marriage. Depending on how you look at it I'd give that a period of age between 17 and 21.   18 if that makes your sensibilities feel a little bit better.  And the Dwarf Noble and the Human Noble were both on the cusp of being considered true adults in their family so that puts them in the 18 to 20 range as well depending on how you look at it.  The Mage origin and the Dwarven Commoner origins are completely non-descript on actual age however and I'd give it a gap of anywhere between 15 and 25 quite honestly.

 

So even if we put her at 26 she's only 6 to 8 years older than the warden in most instances...  Possibly less and probably is meant to appear about the same age as the warden so nobody would really think much of the age gap difference more than likely.

[animedreamer]

Leliana doesn't actually specify that her mother was potentially pregnant with her when she left Fereldan so it's possible she's even younger than that.  Since it takes just months to travel and some might be stubborn or it might just take time to hear of things and arrange the movement of their households I'd give it a 5 year window for the Orlesian Nobles to work their way out of Fereldan.  You don't just move a noble household overnight specially when they feel a bit threatened in what is diplomatically seen as a peaceful neighboring country with some tensions.

 

As for being a cradle robber. Not really. Both the Dalish and City Elf Origin characters were old enough to be considering marriage. Depending on how you look at it I'd give that a period of age between 17 and 21.   18 if that makes your sensibilities feel a little bit better.  And the Dwarf Noble and the Human Noble were both on the cusp of being considered true adults in their family so that puts them in the 18 to 20 range as well depending on how you look at it.  The Mage origin and the Dwarven Commoner origins are completely non-descript on actual age however and I'd give it a gap of anywhere between 15 and 25 quite honestly.

 

So even if we put her at 26 she's only 6 to 8 years older than the warden in most instances...  Possibly less and probably is meant to appear about the same age as the warden so nobody would really think much of the age gap difference more than likely.

First part is true, she doesn't say she was pregnant with her, but you are incorrect on the assumption of moving a noble household. Cecille most likely only had a new residence built in Ferelden, in Inquisition during one of the demos the player is reading various codexes while raiding the freeman household, a former summer home for a Orlesian couple, when the Red Templars started their war we get the impression that they are hurrying their exodus from Ferelden and from the sounds of it, it wasn't taking them years it was just a few months at best before they were killed. So im not so sure i'd put in stock in the Orlesians dragging their feet when leaving Ferelden, as Loghain and Marric were not exactly diplomatic with Orlai and they were certainly not on peaceful diplomatic relations with tension during the Stolen Throne, and most certainly not the years that followed the book's climax, in fact i don't think the relative peace between the two came about until Celene's uncle ruled or she herself took the throne, Bryce Cousland was known to travel to Orlai the year prior to the origin, yet Maric was upset that Eamon had taken a Orlesian wife so soon after the War so between those two time periods the general overall attitude toward Orlai is not going to change from war to diplomatic with tension in the same window gap you are giving them. According to Cailan's entry in the wiki it had been 30 years since the war with Orlai at the start of the 5th blight. Leilana had to be born within that time frame and still have grown up completely, and become a skilled if not master bard, imprisoned, escaped and gone to Ferelden were she claimed to have spent many a year in the cloister. So during origins she can't be 30 or older, and she definitely wasn't in her teens, she at best was in her mid 20s, now add on 9 more years with all the events of DA2 weighing in and, +1 more year from when inquisition is to believe to have begun, that's 10 years total, Leliana is definitely in her early to mid thirties. 

[LeBurns]

Not sure how this thread changed into a "how old is Leliana?" thread.

 

Regardless of her age, the current skin texture they use for her in-game is very flat IMO.