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[Br3admax]

I don't think the lore ever comes right out and states this, and whether or not demons are even involved seems to vary from source to source.

The Last Flight confirmed it. 

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

The Last Flight confirmed it. 

First I'm hearing of it. How does it work? You spill the blood and a demon telepathically contacts you?

[Who Knows]

The issue of reactivity seems a pretty plausible reason for blood magic not being available to the Inquisitor.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

The issue of reactivity seems a pretty plausible reason for blood magic not being available to the Inquisitor.

The bigger issue is how mortals would react to it. Bioware's writers had said they were going to try and write dialogue to reconcile Blood Magic's horrible reputation with the hero using it, and I get the impression the reason the Inquisitor can't use it is that Bioware failed. (In their defense, I don't know that success was possible.)

[Who Knows]

The bigger issue is how mortals would react to it. Bioware's writers had said they were going to try and write dialogue to reconcile Blood Magic's horrible reputation with the hero using it, and I get the impression the reason the Inquisitor can't use it is that Bioware failed. (In their defense, I don't know that success was possible.)

That is what I meant, yes.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

That is what I meant, yes.

Oh, sorry. Thought you'd meant the way demons reacted to it as established in Warden's Keep.

[Br3admax]

First I'm hearing of it. How does it work? You spill the blood and a demon telepathically contacts you?

Apparently spirits and demons are both used, or at least heard, when using magic. However when blood magic is used, only demons are tapped on in the Fade. They actually speak to you with every spell cast. Last Flight really establishes that magic really puts the mage in danger no matter what the spell. 

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Apparently spirits and demons are both used, or at least heard, when using magic. However when blood magic is used, only demons are tapped on in the Fade. They actually speak to you with every spell cast. Last Flight really establishes that magic really puts the mage in danger no matter what the spell. 

Not all magic actually uses spirits, though, for all that apparently they notice all of it. Blood magic and demons may be the same way.

[Br3admax]

Not all magic actually uses spirits, though, for all that apparently they notice all of it. Blood magic and demons may be the same way.

Eh, with Arvanis saying it comes from demons as well as Merrill saying a "spirit" helped with even the most simple of spells, nothing points in favor of that. Not saying it isn't possible, but all the evidence seems to suggest demons are needed. 

[KainD]

So blood mages typically seek out demons to acquire more power..

 

No. 

[KainD]

all the evidence seems to suggest demons are needed. 

 

Wow.. no it doesn't. 

[The Hierophant]

The bigger issue is how mortals would react to it. Bioware's writers had said they were going to try and write dialogue to reconcile Blood Magic's horrible reputation with the hero using it, and I get the impression the reason the Inquisitor can't use it is that Bioware failed. (In their defense, I don't know that success was possible.)

It won't surprise me if the ingame excuse is that the power from the Inquisitor's left hand negates or negatively reacts to BM.

[ZerioctheTank]

pretty sure varric would be fine with it since he never had a problem with merrill using blood magic.

Merrill is cute as a button. I don't think the Inquisitor will be that cute.

[EmperorKarino]

Merrill is cute as a button. I don't think the Inquisitor will be that cute.

 

lol, thats funny, but the point was, varric doesn't bring up merrill's use of blood magic, so he probably doesn't have a problem with blood magic compared to some of the other party members of inquisition.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

Merrill is cute as a button. I don't think the Inquisitor will be that cute.

You vastly underestimate me.

[Ninjasplaycardgames2]

Actually I'm pretty sure demons would still seek out humans because their objective has always been to see the world through human eyes. It was already stated that the reason blood mages won't be a specialization is because they didn't want it to be a minor thing like in DAO and DA2. They're putting more emphasis on the specializations and the setting for DAI can't take full advantage to tell a good blood mage story. At least, thats what I remember them saying.

[Br3admax]

Wow.. no it doesn't. 

Where is your single bit of evidence that it doesn't? The only thing I can think of it WoT, and that one line was blatantly wrong by any other source. 

[Hellion Rex]

Apparently spirits and demons are both used, or at least heard, when using magic. However when blood magic is used, only demons are tapped on in the Fade. They actually speak to you with every spell cast. Last Flight really establishes that magic really puts the mage in danger no matter what the spell. 

My God did that book do well with depicting magic, especially the dangers of blood magic. I thought the author did a fantastic job in that regard.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

I bet they'll eventually add Blood Mage to the MP.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

I bet they'll eventually add Blood Mage to the MP.

If they add it to the game at all, I'm quite sure it'll be an expansion-exclusive spec that we take on top of our first.

[Arvaarad]

I think there's a story reason why both specs involving spirits are off the table.

The Inquisitor survived a huge explosion, one that should have killed them. Unharmed... except for strange glowing cracks in their skin, and the ability to close Veil tears. An ability that no mortal has ever demonstrated, to our knowledge. But spirits can do it, as shown by Justice in Awakening.

I doubt many demons or spirits would want to tangle with someone who already has a... passenger.

[Riverdaleswhiteflash]

I think there's a story reason why both specs involving spirits are off the table.

The Inquisitor survived a huge explosion, one that should have killed them. Unharmed... except for strange glowing cracks in their skin, and the ability to close Veil tears. An ability that no mortal has ever demonstrated, to our knowledge. But spirits can do it, as shown by Justice in Awakening.

I doubt many demons or spirits would want to tangle with someone who already has a... passenger.

Three problems. One: spirit magic is on the table. Two: so is necromancy. Three: Avernus can close Veil tears. (Edit: Although now that I think about it, I am pretty convinced he's possessed, so maybe three isn't a problem after all.)

[Hellion Rex]

I think there's a story reason why both specs involving spirits are off the table.
 

I don't think there is one, and I don't think it needs to be explained at all in the game.

[SgtSteel91]

Apparently spirits and demons are both used, or at least heard, when using magic. However when blood magic is used, only demons are tapped on in the Fade. They actually speak to you with every spell cast. Last Flight really establishes that magic really puts the mage in danger no matter what the spell. 

 

I imagine it's like a mental Microsoft Clippy

 

 

It looks like you're using Blood Magic.

 

Would you like help?

• Get help with casting the spell
• Just cast the spell without help

        -  Don't ask me this again

[Arvaarad]

Three problems. One: spirit magic is on the table. Two: so is necromancy. Three: Avernus can close Veil tears. (Edit: Although now that I think about it, I am pretty convinced he's possessed, so maybe three isn't a problem after all.)

There will be some focus-based healing spells, but spirit healing isn't in. Necromancy and lesser spirit spells use very weak spirits. Spirit healing and blood magic generally involve communicating with (or in extreme cases, being possessed by) more intelligent spirits.

@Eluvianus: I agree they need no story explanation. Even without the abominquisitor theory, the inquisitor could have never encountered someone who teaches those specs. That would be explanation enough.

Nonetheless, I think that there happens to be an explanation in this case.