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Does anyone believe the Mass Effect universe is pretty realistic and possible in the future


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When I play Mass Effect the one thing I always thought that in 150 years this could actually happen (besides the Reapers) It makes sense the way the aliens are and the galatic government thing and how the Humans discover and react to the other species, relays etc..

 

I think it would be awesome to have Turians, Krogans, Asari etc..

 

Do you think this future (besides Reapers) is possible?


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Impossible to tell, the ME story is told from a human perspective. I doubt alien cultures would be anything like us, things like democracy could be foreign concepts to a completely alien culture, who's to say they'd even have the desire to communicate with other species. Krogan, Salarian, Turian, Asari they are all presented to us in ways that resemble human culture take the Quarians and the gypsies as an example.

 

Elcor and Hanar actually present (in concept at least) as a more realistic alternative, one using scent and body language to convey emotions openly in a communal, semi nomadic society, the other closely guarding themselves and their emotions and their privacy considering them deeply personal. Communicating through flashing light signals and using pheromones  could be a far more effective method of cross species communication for all we know. If that were to be the case you'd expect creatures like Hanar and Elcor to be quite influential where as Krogan and Turians would be less well off, possibly falling into the "Avoid if possible" basket due to their militaristic societies. I suspect that would be where we fit in as well. In general we are not nice people who play well with others,

 

Politics is a difficult, nasty, manipulative, time consuming process that often leads to conflict within our own society, if we were to have some kind of galactic council it would need to be incredibly flexible to account for all the differences between each species and there would need to be a colossal effort put in to ensuring that each species understands the other in no uncertain terms. I imagine the logistics involved, even with a "relay" system in place would make it a nightmare to govern and even harder to impose authority.  Establishing borders in the vacuum of space would also present a significant challenge.

 

The idea of a single space station in the middle of nowhere in charge of security, maintaining galactic relations and galactic rule of law probably wouldn't sit well with humanity either but attitudes can change over time, I can't see our various societies as they are today even seeking to join the council let alone actually being allowed to.



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From a technology standpoint, I think it is, at least the way it's presented in ME1.  As I pointed out in another thread, the realism of the series continued to weaken with each installment, but ME1, a lot of what is offered is, I think, a pretty realistic take on things.

 

Their explanations for FTL, Element Zero and its effects of increasing or decreasing mass, the way the weapons functioned, and Mass Relays all have some foundation in real-life science, either practical or theoretical.

 

Even the Omni-tool isn't that far-fetched, in fact, there are some companies and universities working on concepts that could be viewed as precursors to something like an Omni-tool.

 

If you think about it, just look at how far we've come in the past 50 years or so.  Then multiply that 3 or 4 times for the 150-200 years in the projected future that Mass Effect takes place, and I think it's pretty plausible.

 

As ZipZap pointed out, the alien culture, politics, and human-interaction with those is all up for debate.  I think that could go just about anyway you could think of, so I think that part is the most open to a person's interpretation as to what they think would happen.  I think Mass Effect is an awesome vision of what could be, as far as any of that goes.

 

As for the reapers, I don't know.  They were a contrivance for the sake of the plot, which is fine.  They were both a blessing and a curse in that regard.  I never liked the idea of the reapers much because the whole Lovecraft thing is overdone I think, but for what they were they were fine I guess.  Whether they could actually exist, who the hell knows.  I think that was the entire point of them, in a way.  They were this great inconceivable horror of a threat, but once again, the Lovecraft thing never excited me, but Bioware are clearly Lovecraft fans, and that's fine.

 

So to sum up, technologically: yes.  Societally and culturally: maybe.  Reapers: anyone's guess.  My guess is, I doubt it.


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Their explanations for ... Element Zero and its effects of increasing or decreasing mass ... and Mass Relays all have some foundation in real-life science, either practical or theoretical.

 

I dunno.  As cool as it sounded in Mass Effect, the notion that we might discover an element which can increase or decrease the mass of objects/space via the application of an electric current seems pretty far-fetched to me.

 

More generally, however, the ability to leap vast distances through space is something I can accept as a possibility in the distant future.  NASA seems to think it is on the right track to being able to create small 'disturbances' in space-time.  Obviously it's another thing altogether to create an actual wormhole that a ship could slip through, but it would still be a monumental step in the right direction.



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Lol are we seriously talking about the reality of eezo?

 

The internet, it never ceases to amaze me.


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I think its possible we'll discover something like the relays and Element Zero, not so sure on there being 1 hub of authority for galactic security/issues and such, at least not at first but thats me assuming such a thing hasnt already happened.

 

I'd like to think there are really Turians, Krogans, Quarians and other races from the ME games out there, i dont think its impossible and if they are out there we'll find them eventually, or maybe they will find us. But as others have said differing politics, viewpoints, culture/etc are all up for debate and may be the difference between peace (even if on thin ice) and war but it'll be interesting to see how that goes though when and if it ever happens.

 

What bothers me a bit in the discovery of new races, whether they be Quarian, Hanar, Krogan or whatever else may be out there is alot of peoples view on it, alot of people (that i've seen) seem to think we own the galaxy or something and that everything else is automatically hostile and should be destroyed to 'preserve humanity'. Sounds a teeny bit Cerberus to me but its what i've observed. Of course, i'm sure others think differently :D



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I wish it was but no, not really. 



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Next Year (july 2015) Nasa's Probe New Horizons will fly by Pluto and Charon. We will get some nice pictures! If Charon is not a mass relay, I'll be very disappointed.


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1. Yes

2. We will all be long dead when it happens.



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Lol are we seriously talking about the reality of eezo?

 

The internet, it never ceases to amaze me.

Nope.



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Next Year (july 2015) Nasa's Probe New Horizons will fly by Pluto and Charon. We will get some nice pictures! If Charon is not a mass relay, I'll be very disappointed.

 

We havent seen the Mars yet.Even the moon hasnt been fully explored.



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Given the ending that I have seen, we'd all better hope Charon is not a Mass Relay.  

 

All of the wonder and glory of a new age for mankind - working with the council races and making huge leaps forward.....  Tales of love and conquest, peace and war - exploration and encounters that can have devastating consequences.....  

 

All to be destroyed in a dogfart of Galactic proportions.  A dogfart so reeking and toxic and stupefying that it left a crater in my computer room.  

 

In short, it better not be a relay or I am blowing it up - even if it wipes out the Sol system.  I'll be doing the same job as a murderous AI that makes synthetic hybrids to kill us so that the synthetics don't kill us.



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I dunno.  As cool as it sounded in Mass Effect, the notion that we might discover an element which can increase or decrease the mass of objects/space via the application of an electric current seems pretty far-fetched to me.

 

More generally, however, the ability to leap vast distances through space is something I can accept as a possibility in the distant future.  NASA seems to think it is on the right track to being able to create small 'disturbances' in space-time.  Obviously it's another thing altogether to create an actual wormhole that a ship could slip through, but it would still be a monumental step in the right direction.

 

I believe that one of the theoretical applications of the Higgs boson is exactly that (increasing/decreasing mass), according to a couple of articles I read.

 

Scientists in general have softened their stance on the possibility of FTL in recent years whereas they used to say it was flat-out impossible.
 


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Dr. Michio Kaku talked about this stuff back in the pre-release of Mass Effect 2
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Scientists in general have softened their stance on the possibility of FTL in recent years whereas they used to say it was flat-out impossible.


They used to say it was impossible for certain particles. For other particles it's impossible to move slower or at the speed of light

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachyon

 

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Given the ending that I have seen, we'd all better hope Charon is not a Mass Relay.  

 

All of the wonder and glory of a new age for mankind - working with the council races and making huge leaps forward.....  Tales of love and conquest, peace and war - exploration and encounters that can have devastating consequences.....  

 

All to be destroyed in a dogfart of Galactic proportions.  A dogfart so reeking and toxic and stupefying that it left a crater in my computer room.  

 

In short, it better not be a relay or I am blowing it up - even if it wipes out the Sol system.  I'll be doing the same job as a murderous AI that makes synthetic hybrids to kill us so that the synthetics don't kill us.

Not really, there is still a lot of interest in the franchise to warrant its continuation.



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Not really, there is still a lot of interest in the franchise to warrant its continuation.

 

I'm not saying don't continue the franchise.  I'm saying if Charon were actually a mass relay I would blow it up and save us from that ending.  



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Lol are we seriously talking about the reality of eezo?

 

The internet, it never ceases to amaze me.

 

Well, I was trying to say it nicely!

 

 

I believe that one of the theoretical applications of the Higgs boson is exactly that (increasing/decreasing mass), according to a couple of articles I read.

 

Scientists in general have softened their stance on the possibility of FTL in recent years whereas they used to say it was flat-out impossible.
 

 

True, but as I read it, manipulating the Higgs field to cause anything more than a very minor variance in mass would either cause electrons to break away from the nuclei of atoms (decreasing mass) or cause electrons to significantly increase in size in comparison to nuclei (increasing mass), both of which would be utterly catastrophic to the matter being affected.

 

In any event, I was talking about the (un)likelihood of discovering an element with eezo's properties.



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Imagine if it all were true lol

Mass Effect series sales will skyrocket, people will camp next to the Bioware office... :D


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Dr. Michio Kaku talked about this stuff back in the pre-release of Mass Effect 2

Dr. Giorgio Tsoukalos?


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Dr. Giorgio Tsoukalos?

 

Who?  I know of Dr. Michio Kaku.  Damn bright fellow.



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Well, I was trying to say it nicely!

 

 

 

True, but as I read it, manipulating the Higgs field to cause anything more than a very minor variance in mass would either cause electrons to break away from the nuclei of atoms (decreasing mass) or cause electrons to significantly increase in size in comparison to nuclei (increasing mass), both of which would be utterly catastrophic to the matter being affected.

 

In any event, I was talking about the (un)likelihood of discovering an element with eezo's properties.

 

I was just pointing out that that is rather short-sighted.  We've only just discovered the Higgs boson, and already it showed promise.  Imagine what we'll understand about it 200 years from now and the possibilities that will spring forth from that, then tell me it's unlikely.

 

Eezo exactly as it functions in the game, maybe, maybe not, but something like it, such as the Higgs boson, definitely.  And the concept of lowering a ship's mass to achieve FTL is a concept that has come to the forefront of thinking for scientists theorizing FTL travel.



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Who?  I know of Dr. Michio Kaku.  Damn bright fellow.

 

Giorgio is the guy from the Ancient Aliens show, and the one on the famous 'I'm not saying it was aliens...but it was aliens' meme.


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I was just pointing out that that is rather short-sighted.  We've only just discovered the Higgs boson, and already it showed promise.  Imagine what we'll understand about it 200 years from now and the possibilities that will spring forth from that, then tell me it's unlikely.

 

Eezo exactly as it functions in the game, maybe, maybe not, but something like it, such as the Higgs boson, definitely.  And the concept of lowering a ship's mass to achieve FTL is a concept that has come to the forefront of thinking for scientists theorizing FTL travel.

 

My original statement: "... the notion that we might discover an element which can increase or decrease the mass of objects/space via the application of an electric current seems pretty far-fetched to me".  My subsequent post was merely in response to your comments about Higgs Boson, pointing out that there are significant barriers to real world Higgs Boson applications, according to current thinking.

 

I never said humans wouldn't develop some sort of technique to safely raise and lower mass.  My whole point was about how unlikely it was that we would discover an element with the properties of eezo, and it sounds like you actually agree with me on that.



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I'm not saying don't continue the franchise.  I'm saying if Charon were actually a mass relay I would blow it up and save us from that ending.  

I betting that most people are indifferent about the ending.