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#251
jagabond

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Something I just came across which I didn't see mentioned: Hawke can choose to gain ownership of the Bone Pit. The subplot with the dragon is one of my favorite parts of the game, I like how it flows nicely from one act to the next (escalating destruction--thematic parallels hooray!), and Hawke just taking ownership of the Bone Pit seemed like it could have really cool potential.

 

But mainly I like the image of my mage Hawke in her champion armor in some throne of dragon bones, looking over the pit that she's repurposed for some nefarious reasons...

 

As for reasons already stated, I'll echo that Castillon being alive or dead would have seemed relevant to me, at least as relevant as some of the other choices for certain DA2 characters.



#252
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I'm surprised that there isn't a plot tile about if Hawke helped Anders plant the bomb by distracting the Grand Cleric. There's the 'did Hawke approve of Anders' actions' tile, but not something that focuses on if Hawke went the whole way through with helping him. Actually, that quest could have been turned down, too, so that should probably be there too.



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I'm surprised that there isn't a plot tile about if Hawke helped Anders plant the bomb by distracting the Grand Cleric. There's the 'did Hawke approve of Anders' actions' tile, but not something that focuses on if Hawke went the whole way through with helping him. Actually, that quest could have been turned down, too, so that should probably be there too.

 

I agree. I think if Hawke helped or not would be more important than what Hawke thought after the fact.



#254
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I don't agree. Whats happens to the Chantry always happens if Hawke unknowingly assists or not. What Hawke thought about what happened is a much more important part of his or her character's perspective, imo.



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You know, something about the Bone Pit has always kinda confused me.  If we kill the Bone Pit dragon in Act 3, do we automatically get codex entries regarding who was raiding Hubert's caravans in Act 2, and what happened to the missing miners in Act 1?  Because the way it stands, marking either of the ones in Acts 1 and 2 will insist that you couldn't have killed the Bone Dragon.  However, you don't have to do those quests in order to get the Bone Pit dragon quest.  (At least, I don't believe so anyway.  In both of my playthroughs, I'm 99% sure I skipped those first 2 quests; but still got the quest to kill the dragon in Act 3)

 

I figured the logic was supposed to be that if you killed the Bone Pit Dragon in Act 3, you would see all of the old corpses and infer that the Dragon was to blame for all of those events in the previous Acts.  Is this the case?



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I don't agree. Whats happens to the Chantry always happens if Hawke unknowingly assists or not. What Hawke thought about what happened is a much more important part of his or her character's perspective, imo.

 

But what I see with that is a matter of how much responsibily Hawke may or may not have with what Anders did - if Hawke assisted Anders, they're an accomplice, unwitting, but still an accomplise. Since Varric goes to the effort of telling the truth of things, then I would think that Hawke's level of guilt in this action would be an important factor.



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But what I see with that is a matter of how much responsibily Hawke may or may not have with what Anders did - if Hawke assisted Anders, they're an accomplice, unwitting, but still an accomplise. Since Varric goes to the effort of telling the truth of things, then I would think that Hawke's level of guilt in this action would be an important factor.

 

Hawke isn't really mainly responsible for what happened even if they do help Anders distract the Grand Cleric. If one argues that he or she is, then you could make the same case that they are also responsible because they aided and tolerated Anders for 7 years even if they didn't participate in any part of the quest.

 

Whether they approved of Anders actions says much more about what kind of person Hawke is.



#258
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The Warden's option to leave for Seheron with Sten (and possibly Zevran) isn't available.

 

I don't expect the story to refer back to that, though it would be nice, but defying everyone's assumptions that the Warden would take up a leadership position and instead leaving the country seemed important to me. I'd expected some way to indicate what the Warden's plans were after the end of the Blight.



#259
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Hawke isn't really mainly responsible for what happened even if they do help Anders distract the Grand Cleric. If one argues that he or she is, then you could make the same case that they are also responsible because they aided and tolerated Anders for 7 years even if they didn't participate in any part of the quest.

 

But there is the option to not aid and tolerate Anders - after Justice fully takes over and kills/nearly kills that mage girl, Hawke can decide to send Anders packing. That's an option which I think is definitely significant enough to merit inclusion.



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I found missing plot with fenris- in his quest you hawe an option to persuade not to kill his sister or tell him do it



#261
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Another thing that could be of importence is that in circle of magi mission you will encounter a female blood mage that is asking for your mercy. This could help with how your wardens feelings towards blood magic is.



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I don't agree. Whats happens to the Chantry always happens if Hawke unknowingly assists or not. What Hawke thought about what happened is a much more important part of his or her character's perspective, imo.

 

Well if this determines where and how you meet Hawke, you might be right. I meant more in terms of how others view Hawke, which would probably only matter more if Hawke were the PC again.



#263
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I know it ultimately doesn't amount to much, but how about an "Did Anora support you / you support Anora / did Anora denounce you at the Landsmeet?" Less for long-term reasons and more for the Tapestry's narrative... scenarios of "she didn't support me, so she's not on the throne" or "I promised to support her for the throne, but... pftt, yeah right! :P" and whatnot.


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#264
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I know it ultimately doesn't amount to much, but how about an "Did Anora support you / you support Anora / did Anora denounce you at the Landsmeet?" Less for long-term reasons and more for the Tapestry's narrative... scenarios of "she didn't support me, so she's not on the throne" or "I promised to support her for the throne, but... pftt, yeah right! :P" and whatnot.

 

Not a bad idea. I loved tricking her into supporting me and then supporting Alistair for the throne!



#265
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I think they missed out on a fair few things, but the keep is fairly great atm

 

Brother Genitivi
Herren and Wade (Favourites)
Sigrun
Velanna
The Messenger (Architect's Disciple)
Noble Human brother (Cousland)
Jowans fate
Dragon age Origins: Asunder demon/fade beast from the Deeproads
If your character was a blood mage or not.

 

Edit: Finn and Ariane from Dragon age:Witch Hunt

At the end of origins, if your warden survived the standing king/queen asked if you wanted anything.

Slave trading stopped?(Alienage)
Lelianna Hardened?
The meteorite ore
The desire demon from the circle tower, that you could let go.
Shale's personal quest (was it complete).
Blackstone Irregulars (fate)
DA:Awakening - Help smugglers or the law
 



#266
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I'm not sure if this has already been covered, but I have a question about Morrigan's ritual. I decided to try out Dragon Age Keep and as I try to plot out my original play through, I found that this ritual was missing form the tapestry. As a result, either I, Alistair, or Loghain MUST DIE in the end. Am I just blind and I missed the choice of doing the ritual? Or is the Tapestry making it canon that you REFUSED to go through with the ritual. Please let me know :)



#267
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I'm not sure if this has already been covered, but I have a question about Morrigan's ritual. I decided to try out Dragon Age Keep and as I try to plot out my original play through, I found that this ritual was missing form the tapestry. As a result, either I, Alistair, or Loghain MUST DIE in the end. Am I just blind and I missed the choice of doing the ritual? Or is the Tapestry making it canon that you REFUSED to go through with the ritual. Please let me know :)

 

It's in the Companion section of Origins, 'did Morrigan have a baby'. 



#268
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Where is the threesome choise between warden and his LI and brown dock ****** in the Denerim's brothel?



#269
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Where is the threesome choise between warden and his LI and brown dock ****** in the Denerim's brothel?

 

Her name's Isabela, and this option is not in the Keep. 



#270
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It's in the Companion section of Origins, 'did Morrigan have a baby'. 

OH WOW!! Thanks!!! Clearly I didn't explore ALL of the options :)



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I just occurred to me that very early in the game's development it was said that Morrigan would have a softer personality in DA:I if the warden befriended her. We've had a completely useless Cullen/Hawke frienditude check and not a thing I can find to denote this?


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#272
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I just occurred to me that very early in the game's development it was said that Morrigan would have a softer personality in DA:I if the warden befriended her. We've had a completely useless Cullen/Hawke frienditude check and not a thing I can find to denote this?

 

Well that Cullen friendship tile was actually removed from the Keep.



#273
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Also going to add Samson's fate bcuz of a vid I saw on twitch

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I suppose there's no way to say this without sounding like an entitled fool, but they have to add the boon to the keep. It doesn't make sense to exclude the most important decision in DA:O.

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I suppose there's no way to say this without sounding like an entitled fool, but they have to add the boon to the keep. It doesn't make sense to exclude the most important decision in DA:O.

You entitled fool!

 

It might go there eventually, just for your enjoyment, but it's unlikely to ever matter in a game because of how many options there are. It was really just a player reward story-wise.