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[Lieutenant Kurin]

No it isn´t. This is the Origins choice.

The question is: "Did the Warden recruited Oghren?"

"After walking the Deep Roads with the Warden, Oghren decided to join the battle against the Blight."

or "Oghren and the Warden parted ways after their search through the Deep Roads."

 

The Awakening Oghren tile "Oghrens fate (not recruited, Grey Warden, Dead)" is missing.

 

I think they tried to simplify it. Though, the question appears, why are the decisions that relate to Oghren in Awakening, even though the implicit choice is made in DA:O, and why is Nathaniel in DA:O, even though he never even appears in it? I mean if 'Companions' is supposed to be every companion there has ever been, than make it so instead of giving Oghren special treatment.... and if not, put Nathaniel where he belongs (this especially bothers me as I have Heroes of Fereldan that never even met Nathaniel, and yet he's not put into Awakening. It messes with my brain.)

 

Also, I just want Awakening better fleshed out in total. To be honest, I'd like if they considered it a different 'Product' in the Keep. Give it it's own hero (with a tile for the Hero of Fereldan, and a bunch of custom/default Orlesians). With an Awakenings 'companions' tab, and Nathaniel in it and a tile selection for Oghren too (while there's another in DA:O).

As Awakenings got it's own companions, (and could be played without Origins) making it a separate product would not only make sense, but allow better depth and better organization overall. It deserves it dammit!

[Janus198]

Though, the question appears, why are the decisions that relate to Oghren in Awakening, even though the implicit choice is made in DA:O.

 

Also, I just want Awakening better fleshed out in total. To be honest, I'd like if they considered it a different 'Product' in the Keep. Give it it's own hero (with a tile for the Hero of Fereldan, and a bunch of custom/default Orlesians). With an Awakenings 'companions' tab, and Nathaniel in it and a tile selection for Oghren too (while there's another in DA:O).

As Awakenings got it's own companions, (and could be played without Origins) making it a separate product would not only make sense, but allow better depth and better organization overall. It deserves it dammit!

1. The strange thing is that the Oghren tile with the same description was first in Origins section (where it belongs) but after an Update

they have moved it into Awakening.

 

2. Why not? Everything is better than the current status.

[TimXP]

I think they tried to simplify it. Though, the question appears, why are the decisions that relate to Oghren in Awakening, even though the implicit choice is made in DA:O, and why is Nathaniel in DA:O, even though he never even appears in it? I mean if 'Companions' is supposed to be every companion there has ever been, than make it so instead of giving Oghren special treatment.... and if not, put Nathaniel where he belongs (this especially bothers me as I have Heroes of Fereldan that never even met Nathaniel, and yet he's not put into Awakening. It messes with my brain.)

 

Also, I just want Awakening better fleshed out in total. To be honest, I'd like if they considered it a different 'Product' in the Keep. Give it it's own hero (with a tile for the Hero of Fereldan, and a bunch of custom/default Orlesians). With an Awakenings 'companions' tab, and Nathaniel in it and a tile selection for Oghren too (while there's another in DA:O).

As Awakenings got it's own companions, (and could be played without Origins) making it a separate product would not only make sense, but allow better depth and better organization overall. It deserves it dammit!

 

Agreed with all of the above. Pretty much everything about the Oghren tiles is weird at the moment; all your choices regarding him and Felsi seem to blend the timelines of Origins and Awakening so you just sort of have to guess what's intended by the outcome you pick. And then there's Nathaniel in the main companions tab, literally kneeling and praying that no one notices he's not supposed to be there.

 

Aside from the extra companion stuff, I think the first plot requests I submitted when I got into the beta were (1) whether or not we killed the High Dragon in the Urn of Sacred Ashes quest, (2) whether or not the ashes were revealed to the world, and (3) whether the Warden fought Gaxkang.

 

Regarding (1), I didn't even notice the absence of the High Dragon choice the first time I went through the DA:O tiles, but when I saw how many tiles for DA2 were dedicated to asking me whether or not I cleared out the Bone Pit's lizard infestation, it made me want to be able to establish that my Warden was Haven's exterminator. I guess (2) is irrelevant since the ISS retcons the Urn as having disappeared no matter what, for some reason. And (3) isn't necessarily important, but it's a cool side-quest that might have some plot relevance in future games.

[Nukle0n]

It's not like this'll matter any bit for DAI at least since they've probably decided loooong ago what choices would reflect and which ones it doesn't care about. Unless it's for DLC, an expansion or a future title adding more choices about random minor things seems pointless at this stage.

 

I'm kinda surprised that even now when the chance is there, there's no options to pick anything from Leliana's Song, Golems of Amgarrak, or even Return to Ostagar (even though that actually had flags imported into DA2), but I guess times change?

[crowskin]

It's not like this'll matter any bit for DAI at least since they've probably decided loooong ago what choices would reflect and which ones it doesn't care about. Unless it's for DLC, an expansion or a future title adding more choices about random minor things seems pointless at this stage.

 

I'm kinda surprised that even now when the chance is there, there's no options to pick anything from Leliana's Song, Golems of Amgarrak, or even Return to Ostagar (even though that actually had flags imported into DA2), but I guess times change?

 

Mostly it's because there are few significant choices in any of those DLC. Return to Ostagar, perhaps, had a choice with what to do with Cailan's body, but the others did not have any significant decisions.

[Nightshade715]

While this option isn't that important, I was a bit surprised to see no mention of friendship or rivalry in romance tiles for Dragon Age 2. I can't remember if there is one for Sebastian, but if it is missing then it would be another nice option to have considering the kind of impact it has on him as a character.

 

I also agree with everyone who mentioned Sigrun's and Velanna's fate.

[crowskin]

Reminder for everyone to use the beta feedback button to suggest things you would like to see in the Keep. These forums are way too busy for the devs to keep track of every single post.

[HereticDante]

The boon from the end of origins seems to me be the biggest choice which is not there that seems as though it should be.

[Kantr]

They've mentioned they arent going to add the boons and they've been ret-conned anyway

[Warden Commander Aeducan]

The boon from the end of origins seems to me be the biggest choice which is not there that seems as though it should be.

The Mage and the Dalish Elf specific boon got retconned as you can see in DAII, and the City Elf specific boon is doomed from the start. I suppose every boons we can ask fall into insignificant / retcon categories so there goes one of the most important choices in DAO (at least that's how I feel).

[niniendowarrior]

I'm pretty sure this was mentioned before but there seems to be no Orlesian Warden for Awakening.

[HeyCal]

I'm pretty sure this was mentioned before but there seems to be no Orlesian Warden for Awakening.

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They said they may be adding them as an option post launch.

[Reznore57]

Morrigan friendship since you can be the only friend she ever had.

I had hoped it would matter in the end , but nope it seems only the OGB and maybe what happens at the Eluvian are relevant.

It was a huge disappointment for me since she will be in DAI .

 

Anyway it's a bit late to add it now.

 

Brother Genitivi fate would also be cool .

[Evamitchelle]

Morrigan friendship since you can be the only friend she ever had.

I had hoped it would matter in the end , but nope it seems only the OGB and maybe what happens at the Eluvian are relevant.

It was a huge disappointment for me since she will be in DAI .

 

Anyway it's a bit late to add it now.

 

Brother Genitivi fate would also be cool .

 

This was was actually the subject of a poll a few weeks back, and Genitivi's fate was the winning option. 

[renfrees]

I'm sad that Varania's fate didn't make through - it was compelling. Goldanna's did.

[Evamitchelle]

I'm sad that Varania's fate didn't make through - it was compelling. Goldanna's did.

 

Also the subject of a poll last week, and came in 2nd place. 

[Shadow_krono]

Let´s see if now that the keep is in open beta i get some support    I want an Orzammar provings Tile, I know it´s not important for origin BUT the provings was a big part of the orzammar arc, and it shows how you dealt with the new ruler: if you fought for harrowmont and became a spy for bhelen, or truly fough for him, or you fought for the grey wardens, if you were defeated in some round, or decided best to present evidence of harrowmont´s "Dirty dealings", i always felt like the provings were a big part of dwarven society and that it could affect many opinions on the long run, if the warden fought for the grey wardens, this could translate in many dwarfs joining the wardens of ferelden, if he fought as a spy of bhelen many could doubt the order´s true allegiance (specially if bhelen was ellected ruler).

 

Another one that i would like to see is the Dumat Altar in the legacy DLC, it looks resolved... but the altar remains regardless of your choice (defile it or follow the ritual), and you never find who´s voice you hear at the altar. If i remembe another one (that hasn´t been addressed yet) i´ll add them later. lml

[TheKomandorShepard]

To be honest if there won't be any mention of boons in dai it will be cheap ,sure as we know mage and dalish boon went badly it still it seemed that it had some impact and they could at least say what went wrong with dalish boon in dai ,especially we go in region that was placed in the hands of the elves.Well boons seems far more important than prisoner in ostagar.

[movieguyabw]

This may be asking too much, but is it possible to update the original post here with a list of choices people have mentioned?  It seems like it'd be a good idea to compile the choices people keep suggesting, so that we have an idea of where our fellow Keepers stand.  That way we can more easily add our voices to the decisions that we may have forgotten, but someone else remembered that we feel should be included. 

[Neverwinter_Knight77]

I'll copy/paste...

Awakening is the true sequel to DA:O, so I liked it quite a bit. Personally, I think the Keep needs more choices related to companions (Did Hawke have a one night stand with Isabela? Did Oghren join the Grey Wardens? etc.), more choices related to the origin stories (Did the city elf Warden take Vaughan's bribe or kill him?), more choices related to Awakening, and of course the endgame boon.

The boon is the most important choice in the game! I'll say it a million times if I have to!

[Haru Totetsu]

Alistair is irrelevant, you have Goldana and the passage of time (plus loghain means he was hardened)

Gentitivi, possibly. The rest doesn't matter except for the urn.

Magi origin doesnt really matter though, it's a linear path and is never referenced again.

 

Remember these choices will not be seen in inquisition now as it is too late

So what if they won't be seen in Inquisition? Who say's anyone is suggesting them solely for Inquisition? We're all hoping for more games based in the Dragon Age Universe, and want the decisions we suggest to have some impact, or at least be part of idle gossip by the common citizens of Thedas.

 

Alister is relevant, because it defines part of who he is and (if made King) how he will rule Ferelden. Will he sit on the sideline and be nothing but a figurehead? Or will he take charge and show his drive to lead a nation? How is that not important? The way a ruler governs their nation is the most important aspect of what they are. It might not be relevant to inquisition, as the tear in the veil forces everyone not being dragged into the Templar-Mage War to straighten up and get things done, no messing about. But in future games, how he governs Ferelden could end up being a key fact, suggesting that the choice is pointless is suggesting how we ourselves are governed is pointless. When we vote for our leaders our votes mean something, they're  declaration of what type of people and ideas we want to represent our nations, if we were citizens of ferelden, I'd say how our King ruled us, and how involved they were is very important. Not in Inquisition, but in the next game maybe.I mean could you link to a staff member saying that no matter what we did with Alister his mind state was set to a specific one before the events of Inquisition started?

 

This may be asking too much, but is it possible to update the original post here with a list of choices people have mentioned?  It seems like it'd be a good idea to compile the choices people keep suggesting, so that we have an idea of where our fellow Keepers stand.  That way we can more easily add our voices to the decisions that we may have forgotten, but someone else remembered that we feel should be included. 

Seconded, it might stop people from suggesting the same thing, over and over again...not everyone is willing to read through all the posts in a thread before posting after all.

 

I'll copy/paste...
The boon is the most important choice in the game! I'll say it a million times if I have to!

Agreed. The events after the boon was made might have made no change to things in Thedas, but if the rulers of Ferelden gave say the Elves a more powerful voice in the politics of their nation, it could lead to other nations having to either do the same, or to a possible war with Ferelden...maybe even a civil war. We made our choices thinking of the future of Thedas (well I did anyway) so each choice is important.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

The boons don't really have THAT huge of an impact on the world since the biggest ones failed in the end, but they should still be recognized because they were important enough to mention. If nothing else a Dalish Inquisitor would probably want to at least discuss it with the ruler of Ferelden, for instance. (Even though it's too late for the Keep to affect DAI now).

[Tenz83]

The boons don't really have THAT huge of an impact on the world since the biggest ones failed in the end, but they should still be recognized because they were important enough to mention. If nothing else a Dalish Inquisitor would probably want to at least discuss it with the ruler of Ferelden, for instance. (Even though it's too late for the Keep to affect DAI now).

Actually that's a question. Will the Inquisition have origins for the Inquisitor himself/herself? (like Dalish or city elf and Noble and common dwarf?)

[Jedi Master of Orion]

There's no playable origin story but the game's official website can tell you what the backstory of each type of Inquisitor is.

[Vertrucio]

How committed is the team to putting in all the choices eventually?

 

I know they have their hands full, likely with a small team, getting Keep ready for all the unseen Dragon Age Inquisition data that's going to come in next month. And that there's been confirmation that various choices will be going into Keep after the launch of inquisition.

 

There are just so many missing things that a few polls aren't going to cover it, but I'd love to see it all in there, especially in the future when we get some re-releases on PS4 and XB1.