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#176
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I would like to have the possibility to have a plot with my 2 wardens :

The one who died in DAO killing the Archdemon

The one who made the DAA campaign and never struggled the Archdemon

 

They've said they're working on that one (known as the "Orlesian Warden") but it's difficult and they won't have it ready before DAI launches. 



#177
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Yes we can. Sten is resigned to his fate and accepting that he had done wrong and was resigned to his fate. And while they aren't the best source of information with the staff retconning them, the Epilogue says so as well. regardless, without his sword, he couldn't return to Par Vollen because he would be killed on sight or at least after giving his info to the Arishok. In the end unless he comes with you and gets his sword back, statistically speaking it more likely he dies.

 

correct but we only know what happen to sten IF we recruit him. We don't know what happens to sten, or what he does if we don't recruit him.

For all we know the Revered Mother could've freed him (for whatever reason) and had fight, and maybe he survive and later searched and found

his sword and return to Par Vollen.

 

I'm not saying you're wrong, if anything you theory is more likely, but in storytelling, statistically doesn't mean certainty.



#178
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Plots mising:

DA:O 

    1.Romance triangles.

    2.Shale's Memories Returned.

    3.Alistair,Leliana hardened or not.

    4.Gave Schmooples to Leliana.

    5.Did Warden get and keep Morrigan's Ring. 

    6.Did Warden give Grimoire to Morrigan.

    8.Friends with Morrigan.

    9.Fate of Ser Cauthrien.

  10.Fate of Vaughan.

  11.Fate of Caladrius.

  12.Fate of Kolgrim and the high Dragon.

  13.Fate of Jowan.

  14.Fate of Desire Demon and Templar in Broken Circle.

  15.Fate of Blood Mage in Broken Circle.

  16.Fate of Soris.

  17.Fate of Gaxkang.

  18.Fate of Great Oak.

  19.Fate of Mad Hermit.

  20.Fate of Cailan's body.

  21.Starfang forged .

  22.Ageless received. 

  23.Met Isabela at the Pearl and outcome.

  24.Outcome for Blackstone Irregulars.

  25.Outcome for Mage's Collective.

  26.Outcome for Asunder.

  27.Ashes Revealed to the World.

  28.Who is Bann of the Alienage.

  29.Black Vials destroyed?

  30.Warden's Boon.

  31.Proving of Orzammar completion.

  32.Legion of the Dead aide.

  33.Was the Warden a Blood mage

  34.Did Warden receive Helm of the red for no casualties in Redcliffe.

DA:A

   1.Fate of Sigrun.

   2.Fate of Velanna.

   3.Fate of Oghren.

   4.Fate Rylock.

   5.Fate of the Darkspawn Messenger.

   6.Fate of Hunger demon in A maiden in distress.

   7.Fate of Steafan.

   8.Defending the land resolution.

   9.Peasant revolt resolution.

 10.A Brewing Conspiracy resolution.

 11.A daughter ransomed resolution.

 12.Memories of stone completion.

 13.The blight orphans completion

 14.Smuggler's or Law in Amaranthine decison.

 15.Brothers of stone decison.

 16.A day in court decisons.

 17.A master's work items crafted.

 18.Founding of the Silver order.

DA II

   1.Sebastian,Merrill,Bethany,Carver, Anders, Fenris, Aveline friends or rivals.

   2.Fate of Ella

   3.Fate of Samson.

   4.Fate of Varania.

   5.Fate of Orana. 

   6.Fate of Alain.

   7.Fate of Xebenkeck.

   8.Fate of Hybris.

   9.No Rest For The Wicked outcome.

 10.Last of His Line outcome.

 11.Pirates and their Curses completion manner.

 12.The lost hounds completion manner.

 13.Loose ends completion manner.

 14.Changing one's nature completion.

 15.Terror on the coast completion.

 16.Secret randezvous completion.

 17.The lost swords completion.

 18.Dumat Altar defile or sacrifice.

 19.Was the Champion a Blood mage? 

 20.Gave money to Walter and Cricket ?

 21.Fate of Sabin from Inside job.

 22.Is Hawke sole owner of The bone pit.


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#179
Macklemormont

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Where are Sigrun and Velanna? Cammen and Gheyna hooking up shouldn't be more important than fates of actual companions. 



#180
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Frankly I just want All The Choices, because my pie-in-the-sky dream is for the series to last long enough that video game tech progresses to the point that all the choices become addressable and it's possible to Utopify or utterly destroy Thedas.

 

Plus I'm big picture/long game enough that I really enjoy that Andraste was female, because if I play all girl characters it would lead to the weird Thedosian tradition of 'dudes are the ROMANTIC INTERESTS of heroes but only sometimes'.

 

TL;DR: Please make the Keep continuity porn.



#181
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One oft forgotten Redcliffe choice: "What happened with Rigby's lockbox?" (did not find Rigby's lockbox, lockbox unsealed, returned to Jetta)



#182
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They've said they're working on that one (known as the "Orlesian Warden") but it's difficult and they won't have it ready before DAI launches. 

 

How does the Keep handle it currently?  You can have your Warden make the ultimate sacrifice but also do the DLC - including following Morrigan into the Eluvian.  There are no conflicts.  Will it just be assumed that the Orlesian Warden did these things?



#183
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One oft forgotten Redcliffe choice: "What happened with Rigby's lockbox?" (did not find Rigby's lockbox, lockbox unsealed, returned to Jetta)

Is this really that important? Is that matter? Whatever we did with it or did not it is irrelevant. Its done and nothing to do with the next games. If we didn't found its lost, if we opened Warden took whats inside and if we delivered it to Jetta its gone, problem solved. Doesn't matter anymore.

The same for Mario's request "15.Terror on the coast completion". If we choose that we killed Sophie in Warden's Keep then she won't appear in DA2 and if we let her free then, in DA2 she will attack as right away, so she ends up dead anyway. Doesn't matter anymore.



#184
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Everything up to here has been tallied in this post now.

Just a reminder, people - this topic is great for seeing what our fellow Keepers want to see in the future. I hope everyone is remembering, however, to send in plot requests for the choices you feel should be in the Keep. The plot request tab is the only sure way to know that Bioware has actually *seen* your request. ;)


And of course, keep this in mind!

#185
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I think there should be a tile where you get to choose which boon the warden chose (if they even did) as in some cases this might be relevant in future installments - a dalish warden can claim Ostagar for their people for example and all wardens can become an adviser of the throne or inherit Logain's title and land.


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#186
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How does the Keep handle it currently?  You can have your Warden make the ultimate sacrifice but also do the DLC - including following Morrigan into the Eluvian.  There are no conflicts.  Will it just be assumed that the Orlesian Warden did these things?

 

At this point, I think it is - or that (like in Awakening itself) when you start an Awakening game built off a pre-existing Warden who sacrificed himself, that Warden is miraculously alive.

 

That's probably part of the difficulty in creating an Orlesian Warden with a custom backstory.  It's essentially a retcon to the story (Orlesian Wardens had a non-customizable backstory) and one that will mess with the pre-existing tiles in the keep.



#187
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I knew I forgot something; I forgot where but IIRC it's been said that multiple romances (where you romance someone, then dump them,

and move on to someone) will NOT be added. I remember this because the closed beta testers had a conversation about this for a while.

I think their reasoning was because the keep is only meant keep track of the romance you ended the game with.



#188
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I imagine there's an issue of allowing failed romances into the Keep overcomplicating things, which I believe is something that they've said recently on the subject.  However, if it means enough to people best thing to do would be to continue to send plot requests for it.  The worst that could happen is they just make a banner for the Keep that says "We will not add a 'failed romance' tile to the Keep."



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I just submitted these suggestions under Beta feedback but thought I'd state them here as well.
 

1) I romanced Anders. I didn't agree with what he did at the Chantry. However, I said that I did because there's no option to say that we ran away together in the end, which I really think should be there. I'm worried that saying what he did pissed me off will lead to us being broken up by the time Inquisition comes around.

 

2) The options to say whether you rivaled/befriended Sebastian and Anders. Their character arcs are quite different depending on this, especially Sebastian's. My second character romanced him on the rival path and became Viscountess of Kirkwall while he would renounce his vows to the chantry to become prince of Starkhaven. Yet his romance tile says he stayed devoted to the Chantry while falling in love with Hawke.

 

3) Only one option for Urn of Sacred Ashes and NONE for Unrest in the Alienage. This seems strange to me. The fate of Genetivi and the "Andraste" dragon should be there. As should what you chose to do with the slavers in the Alienage at the end.

 

Those are the only ones coming to mind right now. Those and more tiles regarding Awakening and the fate of your companions would be nice.


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#190
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1) I romanced Anders. I didn't agree with what he did at the Chantry. However, I said that I did because there's no option to say that we ran away together in the end, which I really think should be there. I'm worried that saying what he did pissed me off will lead to us being broken up by the time Inquisition comes around.

 

I'm worried about this too, so for the time being I just put that she approved of Anders' actions until there's more clarification on how (or if) that tile would affect Hawke's relationship with Anders.



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Oh, pish-posh on your Anders unknowns. It practically seems confirmed that Leliana broke up with the Warden. Being "dear to your heart" means nothing when you've abandoned me for ten years! :crying:



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I'm worried about this too, so for the time being I just put that she approved of Anders' actions until there's more clarification on how (or if) that tile would affect Hawke's relationship with Anders.

 

I don't see how this would affect anything.  There is a small point in DA2 where you can establish whether you agreed with Anders' actions or not.  (IIRC it was right after the event, you could either be like "what have you done?"  or "Why didn't you tell me?  I could've helped you.")  Regardless of what you choose, I'm fairly certain it doesn't affect whether you were in a romance with him or not.  And you get the 'ran away with' ending if you are still in a romance with him and he's still alive, I believe.

 

The purpose of the Keep is to allow you to recreate your worldstate as accurately as possible.  So as long as you have it set that you were in a romance with Anders, and he was alive, your Hawke and him should be on the run together. 



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I think for me personally, the most important choice was keeping everyone alive at the battle in Redcliffe. I reloaded my game over a dozen times to keep everyone alive and I'd really love to see that reflected in the Keep (seriously that barkeeper kept charging off on his own and the one of the knights kept burning himself).

 

Other plot decisions I'd really want to see:

- kill/not kill high dragon

- fate of Cailan's armour (not the body! partically because that guy who gives you the quest mentions that it's special for various reasons)

- Meteorite sword

- paying/not paying Wade for armour

- Vigilance

- Silverite order

- Alec the farmer fate

- making companions Wardens in Awakening

- fate of Darkspawn messenger

- Amarathine being overun by smugglers or ruled with law

- Blight Orphans

- rivalry/friendship with Sebastian

- fate of Ella

- fate of Varania

- fate of Orana

- Samson reinstatement

- did Hawke hear Sandal's mysterious prophecy (mainly bcuz of ME3 curing the genophage, Mordin singing only if you got him to sing in ME2)

- outcome of the Last of his Line quest

- outcome of The Lost Swords

 

Also on a totally unrelated note: would dog come with the Warden and Morrigan through the portal? I mean mabari bond for life and Morrigan didn't seem to mind him in Witch Hunt..



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Also on a totally unrelated note: would dog come with the Warden and Morrigan through the portal? I mean mabari bond for life and Morrigan didn't seem to mind him in Witch Hunt..

If i remember correctly, he´s the first one to cross. not sure though.



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Number 1 for me is the status and recruitment of Sigrun and Velanna.


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#196
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Is this really that important? Is that matter? Whatever we did with it or did not it is irrelevant. Its done and nothing to do with the next games. If we didn't found its lost, if we opened Warden took whats inside and if we delivered it to Jetta its gone, problem solved. Doesn't matter anymore.
The same for Mario's request "15.Terror on the coast completion". If we choose that we killed Sophie in Warden's Keep then she won't appear in DA2 and if we let her free then, in DA2 she will attack as right away, so she ends up dead anyway. Doesn't matter anymore.

I certainly did a whole lot of running around to get that lockbox, though. Rigby's body, Jogby's body, the Chasind Trail Signs, the campfire cache, the log cache... That part of the game was really annoying for me. So complicated. And then of course, you had to actually remember to give it to Jetta. Considering the time that had passed, I wouldn't be surprised if some people forgot. So I wouldn't mind having this in the Keep.

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Edit: Nevermind.



#198
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We need a Warden Origin stories tile. Currently there is no way to indicate whether a dwarf Warden was a noble or a commoner, unless they had a child with Mardy. Likewise, there is no way to signpost whether a rogue/warrior elf was Dalish or from Denerim.

 

The Origin is shown by the Hero you selected. 



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The Origin is shown by the Hero you selected. 

 

Mea culpa.



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Tile that is strangely missing:

Red Jenny

Red Jenny is mentioned both in Dragon Age: Origins (shut door in Denerim) and Dragon Age II (Clearing out the gangs)

 

It's a really intriguing and mysterious part of Dragon Age brought up in the first two games, and I'm really curious to find out who they are.