There are friendship/rival tiles for Varric, Merrill and Aveline. I really think Sebastian needs one as well. His Friendship/Rivalry paths that Hawke can take with him can push him in two very different directions.
Aveline had one? I agree that Sebastian definitely needs one, and so does Isabela.
No Aveline doesn't have one.
No Aveline doesn't have one.
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Yes she does. "Aveline and Hawke proved true friends to the end," or "Differing opinions and heated arguments eventually drove Aveline and Hawke apart."
Tile that is strangely missing:
Red Jenny
Red Jenny is mentioned both in Dragon Age: Origins (shut door in Denerim) and Dragon Age II (Clearing out the gangs)
It's a really intriguing and mysterious part of Dragon Age brought up in the first two games, and I'm really curious to find out who they are.
Since Sera is a member... I'm sure we will. It does seem a little strange that the quests weren't mentioned in the Keep since we get more info on them in DA:I.
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Yes she does. "Aveline and Hawke proved true friends to the end," or "Differing opinions and heated arguments eventually drove Aveline and Hawke apart."
No, that tile is referring to the very difficult option of getting Aveline to abandon Hawke when he sides with the mages. You can be on either side of the spectrum for triggering that as long as you don't trigger her final conversation. It is not referring to her returning to Fereldan. You can tell based on the dependencies.
What exactly is required at minimum for getting Aveline to abandon Hawke? I tried to set that up for a Hawke I never finished, should be blood mage Hawke, and it gave me like twenty conflicts.
Required in the Keep, I mean?
Your allies in awakening,and the option to select if your Hawke earn respect among the qunari...I forgot the title's name.
What exactly is required at minimum for getting Aveline to abandon Hawke? I tried to set that up for a Hawke I never finished, should be blood mage Hawke, and it gave me like twenty conflicts.
You have to side with the mages as she auto joins for templars, Fenris has to be in the party for the final fight (so alive and well since you have to finish his quest to get him to side with the mages), and I think you need to have a bare minimum number of companions with you (don't know the exact number). Oh and obviously don't complete all her personal quests, but that is an in game requirement not a Keep requirement. You probably got 20 conflicts due to the bare minimum number of companions. When the auto solver sees you go below that number it probably just automatically gives you all other optional companions because it isn't designed to divine which ones you actually had.
Tile that is strangely missing:
Red Jenny
Red Jenny is mentioned both in Dragon Age: Origins (shut door in Denerim) and Dragon Age II (Clearing out the gangs)
It's a really intriguing and mysterious part of Dragon Age brought up in the first two games, and I'm really curious to find out who they are.
Considering how you don't have any effect on Red Jenny at all in either game, what purpose would a tile have?
if you never did the Red Jenny quests you would think that might have an effect with Sera.
if you never did the Red Jenny quests you would think that might have an effect with Sera.
Nope the devs of Keep gave 1st priority to the plot flags of DAI. So if such thing was there the writers of DAI would have made them incorporate it.
Is this really that important? Is that matter? Whatever we did with it or did not it is irrelevant. Its done and nothing to do with the next games. If we didn't found its lost, if we opened Warden took whats inside and if we delivered it to Jetta its gone, problem solved. Doesn't matter anymore.
The same for Mario's request "15.Terror on the coast completion". If we choose that we killed Sophie in Warden's Keep then she won't appear in DA2 and if we let her free then, in DA2 she will attack as right away, so she ends up dead anyway. Doesn't matter anymore.
A kindred spirit. This is why I made my earlier post to the same effect but generally speaking. Most of the things in the big list are unlikely to have any lasting effect beyond their local areas.
in warden's keep there is an option to spare avernus' life and instead of allowing him to continue his research you can exile him from the wardens which is what i did with my first warden. it really bugged me that in the letters from avernus in the quest dark epiphany in dragon age 2 it acted as if he was allowed to continue his researce even if he was exiled and it bugs me it's not an option in the keep. i really hope they will add it.
if you never did the Red Jenny quests you would think that might have an effect with Sera.
why? it's just a small delivery made by the warden, even if the friends of the red jenny knew it was the warden (and it possible they didn't) the inquisitor have nothing to do with the warden. not to mention that there is no reason sera will care about some delivery made 10 years ago (if she was even a member at the time)
in warden's keep there is an option to spare avernus' life and instead of allowing him to continue his research you can exile him from the wardens which is what i did with my first warden. it really bugged me that in the letters from avernus in the quest dark epiphany in dragon age 2 it acted as if he was allowed to continue his researce even if he was exiled and it bugs me it's not an option in the keep. i really hope they will add it.
Now that's a good catch if that's correct. I honestly don't remember the options. As far as DA2, I assume Avernus continues his research on his own because mad scientists are like that. Those three circumstances of his research could lead to different results, so I agree that it should be added if Avernus has any role going forward.
I honestly don't remember the options. As far as DA2, I assume Avernus continues his research on his own because mad scientists are like that.
oh i agree but it should be modified to acomedate it. his letters in DA2 reffers to the warden commander who is the same warden who exiled him in my case 
the only change in the notes is if he done ethical research or not.
@ Avitiach
There is a Red Jenny quest in DA2 also. And I would expect Sera to mention how her group had been helped by both of the other heroes when asking the Inquisitor for help.
But she wasn't really helped much at all. In one case the Warden delivered a single small package to somebody (unsolicited) and in another case the Champion killed the several gangs of one city in another country. Street Gangs that attacked him or her anyway.
@ Avitiach
There is a Red Jenny quest in DA2 also. And I would expect Sera to mention how her group had been helped by both of the other heroes when asking the Inquisitor for help.
how is it relevant to sera? and how you even assume ALL the friends of the red jenny members know ALL of the activities? the warden also had dealing with the templars, does this mean every templar knows about it and will feel the need to mention it to the inquisitor? and as rprm1987 said, if the devs thought sera might mention it then they would add it to the keep.
oh i agree but it should be modified to acomedate it. his letters in DA2 reffers to the warden commander who is the same warden who exiled him in my case
I was agreeing. They could have him go completely off the deep end if you exile him, making it a third path.
You have to side with the mages as she auto joins for templars, Fenris has to be in the party for the final fight (so alive and well since you have to finish his quest to get him to side with the mages), and I think you need to have a bare minimum number of companions with you (don't know the exact number). Oh and obviously don't complete all her personal quests, but that is an in game requirement not a Keep requirement. You probably got 20 conflicts due to the bare minimum number of companions. When the auto solver sees you go below that number it probably just automatically gives you all other optional companions because it isn't designed to divine which ones you actually had.
No, you don't (aka they both can leave):
No, you don't (aka they both can leave):
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That is interesting, but every single resource I have access to seems to agree that Aveline won't leave the party if Fenris has left. So no idea what is going on in that picture other than whatever it is, it isn't supposed to be possible in the game.
That is interesting, but every single resource I have access to seems to agree that Aveline won't leave the party if Fenris has left. So no idea what is going on in that picture other than whatever it is, it isn't supposed to be possible in the game.
You have to have Rivalry with her, not play matchmaker with her and Donnic and Complete "Favor and Fault" in specific manner.
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