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Since we have a support thread for everything else in Thedas, it is only fitting that the true Gods be represented and shown devotion as well. Worship the Cultus Deorum of Dragon Age.

Come fellow believers and show your support of the old ways, the true ways. Worship the draconic. Worship the Golden God Dumat and his brothers as they so deserve.

The gods for those not in the know are as follows...

Dumat God of Silence- King of the gods, greatest and most powerful of the seven. As such he should be revered above all.

Zazikel- God of Freedom and Chaos.

Toth- God of Flames

Andoral- God of Unity

Urthemiel- God of Beauty

Razikale- God of Mystery

Lusacan- God of Night

These are the gods! So if there are those of you out there that grow tired of a god that specializes in absenteeism and weakness then by all means post here. If you are tired of the melodrama and non-stop droning on of the chantry, then by all means we're here for you! If you find the robotic and unnatural message of the qun to be sacrilege, then the gods are still here! If you find the elven faith to filled with open ended mystery and a general vagueness, by all means let us know! The Temple of Dumat is open to all comers, Tevinter and southerner alike. Praise be to Dumat! Praise the Gods. Silence guide you!

((RP and RPers are encouraged and welcome to post here))

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Xilizhra

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Well, it's my sincere hope that we don't wind up killing Dumat at the end of Inquisition, because I'd rather not have the Old Gods be automatically antagonistic toward everyone.


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I don't think that the Old Gods are evil at all, what we have seen of them have been corrupted physical avatars. 


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I don't think that the Old Gods are evil at all, what we have seen of them have been corrupted physical avatars. 

On the other hand, ancient Tevinter routinely practicted human sacrifices in their worship of the old gods. If we assume they spoke the truth when claiming that they could talk with the dragons, then it follows that, at the very least, approve of human sacrifices.

Not something humans would consider to be good.


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On the other hand, ancient Tevinter routinely practicted human sacrifices in their worship of the old gods. If we assume they spoke the truth when claiming that they could talk with the dragons, then it follows that, at the very least, approve of human sacrifices.

Not something humans would consider to be good.

Well, not all humans. Plenty in our own world have done so, some even considering them to be essential.


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Religious worship is often times created by those worshipping. The deity usually has nothing to do with how they are worshipped. Besides, there is far more to the cosmos than what our fickle notions of morality can possibly percieve.


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Religious worship is often times created by those worshipping. The deity usually has nothing to do with how they are worshipped. Besides, there is far more to the cosmos than what our fickle notions of morality can possibly percieve.

True but when we use the words "good" and evil", as you did, then what we are referring to are our notons of morality and to modern and Thedosian current standards, human sacrifice is considered evil. You can hold the dragons to a different standard, if you wish, but it would still make their worship evil.

 

Also, you seem to have missed my logic. If the ancient magisters could speak with Dumat&co and if they practised human sacrifices, then it follows that either Dumat didn't care or approved of it.



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I find it more than likely that Dumat didn't really care either way. It was no more evil than the way The Chantry was spread by Drakon I. He killed everyone that would not convert to his faith.


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Dumat is troll master who managed to foul the ancient tevinter magisters.... 

 

Like I can imagine chat betwen them.

Dumat: Bro, come here, this city is golden, gold everywhere...

Corrypheus: mKay we are goin...

... few days later in fade...

Corrypheus and magisters: The city was supposed to be golden .

Dumat: U mad ? trollface



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Dumat reminds me a lot of Morgoth. I get a pretty big Tolkien vibe from the general Old God canon.


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I think the old gods as evil is going to be a red herring in the end. The old gods are friends of men. They were very beneficent to the Tevinter Imperium when they were revered throughout Thedas. The taint cut their physical f
avatars off for a time. Men scream to the maker for salvation, the maker hears none of it. I believe the maker, is not an entity or deity, it is more of a cosmic force of creation, incapable of interacting with mortals because it is not something that can.

The gods on the other hand are actual deities. They cannot die, and unlike the maker they can and will interact with man. Their nature is neither good nor evil, they exist beyond mortal comprehension.

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I think the Old Gods are one of the most interesting things in the DA lore. Certainly more interesting than the Maker or Andraste, and I'd definitely worship the OGs over the Maker.

 

I want to learn more about them in DA:I, unless they're portrayed as 'teh evils'. Hopefully not.


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If the old gods let us defile the virgins before we sacrifice them I'm in.


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5 down, 2 to go. 


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On the other hand, ancient Tevinter routinely practicted human sacrifices in their worship of the old gods. If we assume they spoke the truth when claiming that they could talk with the dragons, then it follows that, at the very least, approve of human sacrifices.

Not something humans would consider to be good.

 

If they were literally gods human sacrifice is a small price for appeasement. You don't go around punching Cthulhu on the nose unless you know how to beat it.

 

Edit:

 

Blessed are you Dumat!

Silent and strong.

Secret and wise.


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Since we have a support thread for everything else in Thedas, it is only fitting that the true Gods be represented and shown devotion as well.

 

In other news, still no Orlesian support thread on BSN.



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The City was supposed to be Golden.



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Well, if the last two are awakened on the same time... it can be interesting for final boss on DA4 :wub:

 

+ Qunari invasion of all Thedas

+ what remains after Mage-Templar war



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5 down, 2 to go.


You do realize thst gods cannot die, they are eternal, so they are not down nor have they gone anywhere. Praise be to Dumat.

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These are the gods! So if there are those of you out there that grow tired of a god that specializes in absenteeism and weakness then by all means post here. If you are tired of the melodrama and non-stop droning on of the chantry, then by all means we're here for you! If you find the robotic and unnatural message of the qun to be sacrilege, then the gods are still here! If you find the elven faith to filled with open ended mystery and a general vagueness, by all means let us know! The Temple of Dumat is open to all comers, Tevinter and southerner alike. Praise be to Dumat! Praise the Gods.


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Repentence is a chain applied by the chantry to keep its would be followers in line. Dumat has little time nor patience for repentence, it is of no import, repent or no, silence is a virtue.

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You do realize thst gods cannot die, they are eternal, so they are not down nor have they gone anywhere. Praise be to Dumat.

A being who can be unwillingly taken down by a mortal who partook in a ritual is not a god, just a creature that got too full of itself. 


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A being who can be unwillingly taken down by a mortal who partook in a ritual is not a god, just a creature that got too full of itself.


All that was taken was a corrupted depowered mortal avatar. The gods exist in a realm beyond the fade.

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All that was taken was a corrupted depowered mortal avatar. The gods exist in a realm beyond the fade.

And you have proof of this where exactly? 


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