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#226
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The mages of the world unwilling to take their power, and thus, their freedom, deserve the death that stands before them. Power and knowledge lay dormant in blood. Other's sentiment means nothing to me in comparison to the mysteries offered by my Lord Razikale!



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*Slowly eats popcorn, while watching the Old God Cult Argue it out with the Qunari and their converts. All the While, chilling in a Law chair and wearing sandals, shorts, and a Sunburst T-Shirt* Maker put Dumat in a Corner, Maker:11, Dumat:0. The Qun does not give you a choice on your place in life. Maker:1, Qun:0... atleast The Dead dumat gives his Puppets Choice... even if apparently he doesnt need people to worship him, and as such,their entire defence is Invalid.



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*Slowly eats popcorn, while watching the Old God Cult Argue it out with the Qunari and their converts. All the While, chilling in a Law chair and wearing sandals, shorts, and a Sunburst T-Shirt* Maker put Dumat in a Corner, Maker:11, Dumat:0. The Qun does not give you a choice on your place in life. Maker:1, Qun:0... atleast The Dead dumat gives his Puppets Choice... even if apparently he doesnt need people to worship him, and as such,their entire defence is Invalid.

And what proof have you that our Lord is truly dead? Urthemiel has proven that the Gods have transcended death. Who are to claim that Dumat has not done the same? You may spout the false teachings of a false god all you wish fool. It will not save you.



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Well an Altar is merely an enchanted object containing the power of the object of its likeness, that and the Grey Wardens killed him via their Blood Magic, That and The Old Gods got dark spawned during the blights no matter what you all think, corruption of ones Soul is basically what the Taint is, it effects the mind and soul, and finally the body, as such, Dumat is no Longer Dumat, but is Infact, The 1st Archdemon that took a dirt nap when the Grey Wardens Killed it perma dead via their blood magic, "you cant jump with your soul to another host, Time to die" ability. any magic still in their shrines is residual, or.. here's the worse part, May not infact be the old gods magic, and infact that of "The Elder One". i can atleast prove the Maker "exhists", and that his Herald Andraste, Who may have merely been a powerful mage, using the Maker as her cover story, gave people hope in a time of Douche-Canoeing from the Tevinter Magisters. who F**cked up I might add, and caused the Darkspawn. Yeah that's on those guys, before they all try to take over things... they need to put themselves in a better light, and deal with ytheir mess.

 

*Lights a Smoke* As i was saying, "the Maker left us" its a cute story, i think one of two things: He eather was real, and he left after the magister F'up ((Still on you guys)), Or: he's merely a cute ideal that unites the realms of men includeing tevinter. you guys worship the Literal, BBEG, Big Bad Evil Guys, the ones that basically damned us all to suffering the dark spawn, You all Also apparently caused something called the "venatorii" *points at the future* All the Chantry did was Bastardize Origional Teachings as selfish, and scared individuals where placed in positions of power.

 

Check Mate *moves a Game piece*



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Yes, the souls of the Old Gods jump to the nearest tainted creature, including Grey Wardens. But how can you say that any of them are truly dead? Urthemiel has avoided death by placing his soul into the body of a unborn child. Who is to say how old the Dark Ritual really is. Who are you to say that Dumat, and his brothers, did not survive the Blights using the same method used to save Urthemiel? Your "check mate" was premature.



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Ok than, answer me this: Where IS Dumat.. a "GOD" would not Lessen themselves to play Anything Less than "GOD", especially a Dragon, it would not "Suffer" the Insult of being "Mortal" and being an "Equal" to Man.



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Also, the dark ritual was not Urthemials plan, that child?...is a Cage.



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Some time after -305 Ancient (890 TE) Dumat was killed by a group of Ander soldiers while he was on the run from a Warden offensive but the celebrations were cut short when Dumat returned unharmed. In the years that followed, scholars learned that the Archdemon's death had only forced its soul to relocate into the body of the nearest darkspawn. Dumat was finally slain by Grey Wardens at the Battle of Silent Fields in -203 Ancient (992 TE), the Wardens having learned by that point that only a death blow dealt by one of their Order would prevent the archdemon's resurrection in a new host body. <--... The Wardens arent dumb.



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Still the profligates post, and still Dumat endures. Praise the golden god, praise Dumat!
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Still the profligates post, and still Dumat endures. Praise the golden god, praise Dumat!

You heretics are adorable, cant even defend it


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You heretics are adorable, cant even defend it

technically you cant defend religion... its faith so eh* shrugs*

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If Dumat is golden, how much you figure he's worth? Just ballpark it.

 

I'm sure I can get people on this.



#238
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technically you cant defend religion... its faith so eh* shrugs*

Dumat Died, its canon, the Maker is still speculation


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Dumat Died, its canon, the Maker is still speculation

did i say it wasnt ? The belief he has been revived was due to legacy so for some its "proof" of his return. I believe in magic over cults and andrastianism so anything is possible

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Dumat Died, its canon, the Maker is still speculation

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YES! 


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did i say it wasnt ? The belief he has been revived was due to legacy so for some its "proof" of his return. I believe in magic over cults and andrastianism so anything is possible

Eh my philosophy if your blatently following the CLEAR bad guy, you need a smack down.



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Eh my philosophy if your blatently following the CLEAR bad guy, you need a smack down.

good/bad are simple labels of morality but i understand your philosophy

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The Old gods brought about the darkspawn... thats pretty black and white on Bad



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The Old gods brought about the darkspawn... thats pretty black and white on Bad

thats one story. A recent one i believe after reading WoT.

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Dumat is eternal. Get lost.
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Dumat is eternal. Get lost.

theres been alot of anti-mage and pro-chantry bull**** of late it like everybody has lost there heads
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Its crazy, we have been under fire in all threads last week or so. Lame.

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Its crazy, we have been under fire in all threads last week or so. Lame.

its ****ing madness. I dont mind differing opinions but sod its getting out of control. And a certain extremist isnt helping
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I have an idea of whom you speak.

Btw Julianos,

Bioware has been very vague about all old god info, including their supposed deaths, legacy put even more mystery by showing Dumat is not dead. A god cannot die. All we know is what the chantry says. The old gods are deities and villified by the chantry as rivals to the so called maker. It boils down to faith like anything else. Just like real world christianity villified the greek pantheon, andrastianism does the same. So if you have nothing of support to add to this old gods support thread, get lost.
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#250
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New rule: like lordsaren said while we appreciate roleplaying as this is a forum make sure its constructive and lax. The past few days theres been a influx of anti-mage/tevinter sentiment and this is fine juat dont bring it in here to pick a fight. You want MT fights find a new place for that we discuss the possiblity HOWEVER unlikely of old god revival or actual theology

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