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Dumat can even grant Hawke a blessing in Legacy by placing the sacrifices at the Alter of Dumat. He's still around. The wardens were wrong when they thought they could destroy him! I don't see no Maker granting no blessing to Hawke.


Because Dumat actually exists. The Maker does not.

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Because Dumat actually exists. The Maker does not.


It is said that the Maker imprisoned the old gods. The old gods are indeed imprisoned, so does that mean the Maker exists?

You say that Dumat still has power. His altar does indeed still grant a boon, so does that mean that Dumat really still has power?

#153
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The maker is so powerful and superior that even without his presence he can easily destroy every false gods, The elder one included.
NO one who's not worthy to see him will see him even the fake gods who he create with his omnipotent power.
Actually the kings among the old gods is Dumat but he is just an imitation of DUMAH (his inspiration) the angel of silence who betray his maker.
A god who can die is not a god.
the maker is not just a god but he is like a god among the other deities

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#154
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Didn't Jesus Christ die before returning?

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It is said that the Maker imprisoned the old gods. The old gods are indeed imprisoned, so does that mean the Maker exists?

You say that Dumat still has power. His altar does indeed still grant a boon, so does that mean that Dumat really still has power?

The alter might have been imbued with magic beforehand. Just as the pillars Cory draws power from.

Doesent mean our great Lord doesent exist though.



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Didn't Jesus Christ die before returning?

thats the story

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Dumat didn't die. Just the avatar.
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#158
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The maker is  a fairytale created by the chantry. The gods imprisoned themselves to keep their avatars from the taint.


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Yeah.. i wanna see that in canonical point value. Maker:10, Dumat:0



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This dark place need to see the light of the Maker.



#161
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This dark place need to see the light of the Maker.

Well im Ten and O, with actual canonical "facts", but the Tevinter heretics are putting up a pretty good blind faith defence so....we arent getting anywhere...its impressive.


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Sometimes even the most misguided of people will eventually see the light of the Maker. But when that happens they will either accept his light or run deeper into their cave to live their lives in perpetual twilight.



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The Tevinter heretics have One option, Burn as Heretics, or Die as Faithful servants of the Maker.


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Oh look more profligates. Again, the maker is forced to forfit, reason cited...lack of existence. Again Dumat reigns supreme.

There is only one true maker and his name is Dumat. Now bow before silence and be spared.
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The maker is  a fairytale created by the chantry. The gods imprisoned themselves to keep their avatars from the taint.

Indeed? Then who created this city? Black or Golden it doesn't matter the city has a power greater than the old gods, this is the truth, someone had created the city and the power granted by the corruption is the greatest weapon of that world.
Probably when the maker decided to abandon the city the city become black and corrupted.
This maker is so great that he destroy the 7 old gods with their own stupidity because they wanted worship, the maker grant to them the best worshipers the darkspawn, the fallen mages. Now they can't even protect themselves in their sleep.
Somewhere in the codex of origins, the one about the archdemons in the creatures section tells that only the people who lived during the first blight, have considered Dumat as a god, only because they didn't know how to kill him, when the wardens discovered his little secret they destroyed him.
So in the end from what we know those old gods of yours are very weak in their sleep even in their pure form (remember the Architect has found  the true form of Urthemiel unharmed)  crazy as archedemons and they use a sort of soul's transfer to survive..
To me they are not gods just dragons who play with soul's  transfer.


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Oh look more profligates. Again, the maker is forced to forfit, reason cited...lack of existence. Again Dumat reigns supreme.
There is only one true maker and his name is Dumat. Now bow before silence and be spared.

again its the white chantry hating on the black chantry and other denominations

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The maker you southern chantry bumpkins prattle on incessantly about is a big fat lie. A nice little bedtime story, nothing more. Pray to the maker and what do you hear? SILENCE. Now begone vagabonds. Go pray your silly little prayers back in the south where they belong. Dumat nor any of the gods wish to hear you.
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#168
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The maker you southern chantry bumpkins prattle on incessantly about is a big fat lie. A nice little bedtime story, nothing more. Pray to the maker and what do you hear? SILENCE. Now begone vagabonds. Go pray your silly little prayers back in the south where they belong. Dumat nor any of the gods wish to hear you.

* claps* love your conviction
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#169
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*bows* I aim to please.

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*bows* I aim to please.

i must say though the temple has had a lot of southern "attentendants"

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They claim to hate us but in secret they envy us because Dumat shines his light on the true believers.
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They claim to hate us but in secret they envy us because Dumat shines his light on the true believers.

Yep, it was called the First Blight.

Then we killed him and made swords out of his spine.



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They claim to hate us but in secret they envy us because Dumat shines his light on the true believers.

again white chantry hating on everybody lol

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The maker is  a fairytale created by the chantry. The gods imprisoned themselves to keep their avatars from the taint.

 

So, according to your tenets, Dumat sent the Magisters to the Golden City for...reasons, since there is no Maker.

In doing so, they unleashed an army of monstrosities that not only proved a threat to the Old Gods' avatar to the point where they buried not just their heads, but their whole bodies in the earth; but also destroyed the empire of the faithful.

And, in their incompetence, the Old Gods couldn't even prevent a rabble of mindless creatures from breaking through their "self-imposed" imprisonment and Tainting them which ultimately leads to them being killed by mortals.

 

 



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*wrong thread*