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Redcliffe: Redesign or Recreation?


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Title pretty much says it all.

 

We'll be able to visit Redcliffe in Inquisition, but what will it look like?  A decade has passed in the world of Thedas, so much is likely to have changed.  However, will it still resemble the original village and castle that we visited in Origins, or will it be Redcliffe only in name?



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There is some resemblance, but it looks significantly different. Re-imagined and re-designed, I'd say.


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Well I believe most of the villagers had moved away before the mage templar war happened, so not certain the village was ever fully rebuilt....

 

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Plus, there will be no way to make it look identical in frostbite.



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I think it will be similar but it will be different because it's in a open environment well more so this time around and I think the environment will look different plus it's going to look different due to the frostbite engine.



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Title pretty much says it all.

 

We'll be able to visit Redcliffe in Inquisition, but what will it look like?  A decade has passed in the world of Thedas, so much is likely to have changed.  However, will it still resemble the original village and castle that we visited in Origins, or will it be Redcliffe only in name?

 

one of the trailers of inquisition on dragonage's official youtube channel shows some of redcliffe, i think its a mix of redesign and recreation, cause some of it was destroyed during the events of origins, and now inquisition is so vast and so much effort put into it, they made red cliffe how they want it too look like, they meaning the creators of dragonage.



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The only thing that might be familiar in Inquisition about Redcliffe could be formation of  terrain around the village. Other than that, I believe it was said in some video or interview, that story-wise Redcliffe was rebuilt after the blight, as it was supposed to be pretty much destroyed by the darkspawn. 

 

From what we've seen of the castle in the Redcliffe demo (part 2), there doesn't seem to be much resemblance. There also seems to be a a vast breach that changed its structure. 

 

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well the redcliffe from origins was destroyed during the final stages of the fifth blight, so anything you see in inquisition will be what they built following that time



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it looks diffrent but now there is a big sign over RedClife castle saying Demons and insane mages rewelcomed in new engine lolz



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Well I believe most of the villagers had moved away before the mage templar war happened, so not certain the village was ever fully rebuilt....

 

and

 

Spoiler

 

Plus, there will be no way to make it look identical in frostbite.

 

Fair point, but it wouldn't be the first game to recreate an old level in a new engine.  Other series have done it, but Bioware has never done that.  Anyways, Redcliffe was depicted as near water and the Castle being built standing out of the lake.  I can understand rebuilding, but I'm curious if they stayed faithful to the surroundings and such.  Redcliffe being in a dense forest, nowhere near water, would raise a few eyebrows in my opinion.

 

The only thing that might be familiar in Inquisition about Redcliffe could be formation of  terrain around the village. Other than that, I believe it was said in some video or interview, that story-wise Redcliffe was rebuilt after the blight, as it was supposed to be pretty much destroyed by the darkspawn. 

 

From what we've seen of the castle in the Redcliffe demo (part 2), there doesn't seem to be much resemblance. There also seems to be a a vast breach that changed its structure. 

 

Spoiler

 

That's good to hear.  As I mentioned above, I'm worried that they just made a new place and called it, "Redcliffe." 

 

one of the trailers of inquisition on dragonage's official youtube channel shows some of redcliffe, i think its a mix of redesign and recreation, cause some of it was destroyed during the events of origins, and now inquisition is so vast and so much effort put into it, they made red cliffe how they want it too look like, they meaning the creators of dragonage.

 

I can understand making it bigger and better with the new engine.  Hell, you can write it off as rebuilding from a story point of view, but completely changing it and telling players it's the same thing has never sat right with me.


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Fair point, but it wouldn't be the first game to recreate an old level in a new engine.  Other series have done it, but Bioware has never done that.  Anyways, Redcliffe was depicted as near water and the Castle being built standing out of the lake.  I can understand rebuilding, but I'm curious if they stayed faithful to the surroundings and such.  Redcliffe being in a dense forest, nowhere near water, would raise a few eyebrows in my opinion.

 

 

That's good to hear.  As I mentioned above, I'm worried that they just made a new place and called it, "Redcliffe." 

 

 

I can understand making it bigger and better with the new engine.  Hell, you can write it off as rebuilding from a story point of view, but completely changing it and telling players it's the same thing has never sat right with me.

 

they showed some of it, not all of it, so i can't really say for sure. its definitely going to be bigger, i can say for sure.



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There's a lake and a castle and a chantry.  And probably a red cliff.  Wouldn't expect much more resemblance than that.



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It would be a waste of Frostbite 3's capabilities to recreate anything from the Eclipse engine.



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Well, it's much more...green. I guess the Blight did wonders for Ferelden's lushness. 



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It's recreation, obviously. I don't play video games for any purpose other than recreation.
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I imagine it'll be similar, but with greater verticality and much more openness. Plus they've probably added additional stuff to the interior of the keep itself.



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10 years have past, a lot can change to a castle in a decade and a village that got sacked during the 5th blight.

Plus seems to be some unexpected guests chilling out.



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All I can say is that Bella's tavern had better still be there.


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It should be noted folks that Redcliffe as we know it was destroyed during the Fifth Blight in DAO. It has subsequently been rebuilt and looks very different from what it used to. The geography will be recognizable, but I wouldn't expect very much else other than that for obvious reasons.



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This is a world with artisans and mages, so a great deal can be rebuilt or redesigned - so long the ground topography is familiar (cliffs, waterfall, harbour shape) I could cope with extensive evolution.



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Why are so many people saying Redcliffe was destroyed in the Blight? It most certainly was not, I saved the damn thing. Even if you left the village to its own devices at the Battle at Nightfall, the undead attacked the people, not the village. After the Landsmeet the village is overrun with darkspawn but certainly not destroyed. The people evacuate safely inside the castle, and it is stated by numerous characters that this was a small force, whereas the bulk of the horde is marching on Denerim.

 

As stated in various letters in DA2, most of the refugees from Lothering relocated to Redcliffe. They wouldn't do that if the village was destroyed. The epilogue of Origins also says that the village quickly got back on its feet and was soon booming.


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There's a game play video out there on Youtube that shows you Redcliffe Castle.

 



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From one of the streams they actually went into Redcliff's farm area and it was pretty expansive. So, I imagine Redcliff itself is pretty big now

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Image of the farm land.



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Why are so many people saying Redcliffe was destroyed in the Blight? It most certainly was not, I saved the damn thing. Even if you left the village to its own devices at the Battle at Nightfall, the undead attacked the people, not the village. After the Landsmeet the village is overrun with darkspawn but certainly not destroyed. The people evacuate safely inside the castle, and it is stated by numerous characters that this was a small force, whereas the bulk of the horde is marching on Denerim.

As stated in various letters in DA2, most of the refugees from Lothering relocated to Redcliffe. They wouldn't do that if the village was destroyed. The epilogue of Origins also says that the village quickly got back on its feet and was soon booming.



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I was just thinking that then I read your post nice B-)

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From one of the streams they actually went into Redcliff's farm area and it was pretty expansive. So, I imagine Redcliff itself is pretty big now

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Image of the farm land.

 

Jeez, that's like larger than Lothering in DAO...and it's like one farm.