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[Milan92]

Well that would be a bit difficult to do correctly in a movie.

 

Not really. All you have to do is put some off-screen voices in it.

[Dermain]

He was the actual villain as far as I was concerned. Good popcorn flick though

 

On-topic: Feige made a HUGE blunder when he green-lighted another Spidey flick with ANOTHER young white dude as the protagonist. It has been done in FIVE films for the love of the Goddess! Please, why not give us something unique, interesting, anything but the same old, tired Peter Parker character.

 

 

It's the "safe" choice.

 

Not really. All you have to do is put some off-screen voices in it.

 

Yes, but that doesn't really have the same effect. It can also appear to be "cheesy".

[Milan92]

 

Yes, but that doesn't really have the same effect. It can also appear to be "cheesy".

 

Doesn't it? Have you played the Deadpool game that came out in 2013? They also had those voices and it worked perfectly.

[mybudgee]

It's the "safe" choice.

This is likely the reason I will eventually end up boycotting marvel movies like I boycott Wal-Mart

 

[Lotion Soronarr]

Reviews of AoU are..... as I suspected honestly.

 

Shoddy writing, confusing editing, feeling as it a ton of things have been cut, scenes coming out of nowhere, forgotten plot points, idiot balls, cringe-worthy dialogue, inept villain... all things that are mentioned.

 

Might be worth to watch just for laughs

[Sully13]

It is . its a popcorn flick to be honest. GoG was a better story in my opinion.

[mybudgee]

Reviews of AoU are..... as I suspected honestly.

 

Shoddy writing, confusing editing, feeling as it a ton of things have been cut, scenes coming out of nowhere, forgotten plot points, idiot balls, cringe-worthy dialogue, inept villain... all things that are mentioned.

 

Marvel has dug themselves a bit of a hole with Avengers 2 & Iron man 3. Hopefully they can climb out...

 

[Dermain]

Doesn't it? Have you played the Deadpool game that came out in 2013? They also had those voices and it worked perfectly.

 

You have far too much hope.

 

Stop it.

 

Reviews of AoU are..... as I suspected honestly.

 

Shoddy writing, confusing editing, feeling as it a ton of things have been cut, scenes coming out of nowhere, forgotten plot points, idiot balls, cringe-worthy dialogue, inept villain... all things that are mentioned.

 

Might be worth to watch just for laughs

 

So, just like the rest of the Marvel movies?

 

They're entertaining, but they're not the pinnacles of story telling that people claim they are. (And here's where Leo decides to come back to praise them for doing nothing wrong, again). 

 

Guardians was actually pretty good until the last half of it. 

[Milan92]

You have far too much hope.

 

Stop it.

 

Don't worry, I'm not gonna rage like some Marvel fans as soon as something is changed

 

it just would make a nice addition.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

It is . its a popcorn flick to be honest. GoG was a better story in my opinion.

 

Implying that comic book movies are not popcorn flicks in the first place. 

 

I mean, I am a die-hard comic book fan and I love the animated cartoons, animated series and the movies but I would never label any of them as cerebral or thought provoking with the exception of Watchmen and The Dark Knight. 

[Silvair]

 

 

Howard the Duck allowed for Pixar to be founded. (That's actually true before you try to call bs on me)

So anything about that movie can be forgiven.

 

I get the feeling you didn't watch all of Smallville like I did. Because that show was horrible.

Superman Returns might be more boring than watching paint dry but at least it's not offensively bad like anything involving Lana Lang.

a) Okay wait I'm curious, can you elaborate on how that created Pixar?

 

You would be correct.  Anything from the CW is inherently terrible.

 

To be fair, anything centered around Superman is almost always terrible.  Even with Man of Steel, the best part (maybe only good part) was any scene with Faora, the evil chick.

 

 

It's what the movie did was the issue

 

 

Deadpool isn't the only wiseass character in Marvel, how this is an issue is beyond me

 

And how was viewer expecting Deadpool their fault when the movie did poor job with "Weapon XI" to begin with

My point was they are turning every guy into the same generic "Snarky rogue", because it sells.  Not different types of wiseass, but the SAME wiseass.

 

Only real difference is Tony Stark borders on straight up supervillain due to his ego.

 

And what DID the movie do that was the issue? its an ORIGINS movie.  Again, other than the optic blasts, I say they actually did the BEST with Wade out of anyone else in the movie.

 

 

He was the actual villain as far as I was concerned. Good popcorn flick though

 

On-topic: Feige made a HUGE blunder when he green-lighted another Spidey flick with ANOTHER young white dude as the protagonist. It has been done in FIVE films for the love of the Goddess! Please, why not give us something unique, interesting, anything but the same old, tired Peter Parker character.

 

Did you seriously just complain about a white guy being cast as peter parker, who is and always has been white?

 

Because if so, you need to stop talking. 

 

 

 I am so sick of non white people being cast as white characters for no good reason.

 

Start promoting the actually diverse characters, not just casting blacks/asians/hispanics/whatever as white characters.  That's both lazy and racist as all hell.

 

Even THE stereotypical "token hispanic" actress agrees.

 

http://www.tmz.com/2...o-roles-movies/

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry, if you just meant "I want to see that new black kid spider-man", understand that he's a kid who took up being spider-man after Peter Parker died being a hero, in the ultimate universe.  Either way, you can't just skip over Peter Parker or just suddenly turn him nonwhite (The FF movie is getting SO MUCH FLAK for making Johnny Storm black for no discernible reason.  And no "he's a good actor" is no excuse, because there's a lot of good actors who fit the character better.)

 

 

Sometimes its fine, like MCD As Kingpin (Which was awesome) or the entirety of Big Hero 6 (But that was COMPLETELY reimagined, plus their version of gogo is the hottest thing ever, so we let it slide), but then you get casting choices like Idriz Elba in Thor, or Michael B Jordan as Johnny Storm, which actually creates a lot of problems, and comes across as desperately trying to force diversity, even when, again, it just causes problems in the story to explain it.  The ONE Black guy in an otherwise aryan race of gods just raises questions (the mongol gets a pass just because he's always been there, he's not a race swap), and they had to rearrange the story to explain why Johnny's black but Sue is white.  The excuses of "The were hired because they were good actors" is such a transparent BS excuse it's pathetic.  Mr. Elba was cast as a character which requires ZERO acting whatsoever. (just stand and stare forward. Even the girl from Twilight coulda handled that.), and as I said, there were so many other choices for Johnny Storm.  It's the "Forced diversity" that's just getting offensive at this point.

 

If they want diversity, start including more diverse characters, not just casting non white people as white characters.  War Machine and Falcon and the Maximoff twins are a good start (They're white but...Romani? Whatever the term is), but there's a LOT of other diverse characters out there they could use, for the avengers alone.

 

 

 

 

And to those who inevitably call me racist for this post, think before you respond.  Are you really going to try to call ME racist, for getting mad at people for OVERWRITING SOMEONE ELSE'S RACE WITH ONE THEY LIKE BETTER?!  It's not me being racist towards blacks/hispanics/asians/whatever.  It's me being furious at the INSANELY HYPOCRITICAL racism towards whites.

 

Like Will Smith as Deadshot.  Freaking....why.  Deadshot is a quintessential clean cut smooth white guy.  There's so many other other actors better suited to the character.  If you wanted Will Smith, cast him as an appropriate character, or at least have the decency to not call him deadshot, because he's not, sorry.  It's just a REALLY lazy casting choice.

 

 

 

Mixmatched casting here and there (Lando as Harvey Dent in the original Batman films, MCD as Kingpin, Sam J Jackson as Fury, etc) is fine.  But now its becoming a trend, and its crossing lines and causing problems, and it needs to stop.  ESPECIALLY since there would be hell to pay if it were ever in the reverse.  John Wayne notwithstanding because era difference.  Can you imagine the uproar if a white guy was cast as War Machine or Falcon?

 

 

 

Marvel has dug themselves a bit of a hole with Avengers 2 & Iron man 3. Hopefully they can climb out...

 

Their main problem is they are just assuming the movies will be awesome blockbusters that everyone loves before they are even made.

[Dermain]

Their main problem is they are just assuming the movies will be awesome blockbusters that everyone loves before they are even made.

 

As long as the movie makes more than it's budget they will never care about the actual quality.

[Lotion Soronarr]

You have far too much hope.

 

Stop it.

 

 

So, just like the rest of the Marvel movies?

 

They're entertaining, but they're not the pinnacles of story telling that people claim they are. (And here's where Leo decides to come back to praise them for doing nothing wrong, again). 

 

Guardians was actually pretty good until the last half of it. 

 

 

The word is it's not "ha-ha" funny, but it's more of facepalming while going "what!?"

 

Let's be honest, action movies were never a pinnacle of writing, but so few writers even TRY and the standards seem to be so low, that it physically hurts me.

[Sully13]

Implying that comic book movies are not popcorn flicks in the first place. 

 

I mean, I am a die-hard comic book fan and I love the animated cartoons, animated series and the movies but I would never label any of them as cerebral or thought provoking with the exception of Watchmen and The Dark Knight. 

never said thay wern't just that in my oppinion GotG was a better story than AaoU.  

not every movie has to be a deep philosophical jorny into the mind of Howard the Duck.

 

 

 

BTW howard the Duck. waaay better than Supergirl.

[Fast Jimmy]

That's like someone saying Smallville would've led into a great Superman movie.

Smallville WOULD have led into a great Superman movie. Better than Superman Returns, at least. If the show had been ready to end and make that transition, Tom Welling would have been a million times better than Brandon Routh.

[Fast Jimmy]

Marvel has dug themselves a bit of a hole with Avengers 2 & Iron man 3. Hopefully they can climb out...

...what hole, exactly? Iron Man 3 made close to a billion dollars, Age of Ultron is on course to be in the Top 5 highest grossing films of all time.

Iron Man 3 wasn't great, but I really don't get the hate for Age of Ultron. I thought it was really well executed. I agree editting probably hurt it but I'd watch it over any non-Marvel super hero movie. Or over any other action movie coming out this year. I mean... are people forgetting these are super hero action movies? This isn't The Piano.

[Treacherous J Slither]

I just saw the trailer for Fantastic Four and lost interest as soon as I saw the cast. Johnny Storm isn't black and Ben Grimm isn't thin.

There are many non white characters in comics already. They may not be very popular or anywhere near as numerous as the white ones but they are there and deserve a chance in the spotlight instead of changing the ethnicity of existing characters.

Personally I think it's absolutely ridiculous that the ratio of white to non white characters is as skewed as it is but that's not a good enough reason to start changing colors.

Showcase existing non white characters and create new ones.

[Fast Jimmy]

I just saw the trailer for Fantastic Four and lost interest as soon as I saw the cast. Johnny Storm isn't black and Ben Grimm isn't thin.

There are many non white characters in comics already. They may not be very popular or anywhere near as numerous as the white ones but they are there and deserve a chance in the spotlight instead of changing the ethnicity of existing characters.

Personally I think it's absolutely ridiculous that the ratio of white to non white characters is as skewed as it is but that's not a good enough reason to start changing colors.

Showcase existing non white characters and create new ones.

Nothing about Johnny Storm's character requires him to be white. I'd argue a thin Ben Grimm infringes on the character's nature more than a black Human Torch.

[AresKeith]

I don't view this a problem, except Human Torch and The Thing

[AresKeith]

Nothing about Johnny Storm's character requires him to be white. I'd argue a thin Ben Grimm infringes on the character's nature more than a black Human Torch.

The only thing I'd have a problem with black Human Torch is if they do the "adopted route" with him an Sue Storm

[In Exile]

Nothing about Johnny Storm's character requires him to be white. I'd argue a thin Ben Grimm infringes on the character's nature more than a black Human Torch.

What bugs me is that they didn't just cast a black Sue Storm too.

[Treacherous J Slither]

Nothing about Johnny Storm's character requires him to be white. I'd argue a thin Ben Grimm infringes on the character's nature more than a black Human Torch.

Sue and Johnny are siblings in the comics. Casting one of them as a different ethnicity screws this up. Why do that? What's the point? All of a sudden Hollywood has a problem with all white casting or something?

[AresKeith]

Sue and Johnny are siblings in the comics. Casting one of them as a different ethnicity screws this up. Why do that? What's the point? All of a sudden Hollywood has a problem with all white casting or something?

 

Well I agree the casting for Fantastic 4 is stupid, this however has nothing to do with it

[TheClonesLegacy]

a) Okay wait I'm curious, can you elaborate on how that created Pixar?

Certainly. But this is the last post I can do. I'm going on hiatus for a while due to personal matters.

Basically, as it's well known George Lucas was a Producer on Howard the Duck. That film was a massive commercial flop though, and George lost alot if money because of it (Not helped by him wasting even more money to build Skywalker Ranch). Which led to him selling a newly founded computer effects division of Lucasfilm.
Steve Jobs ended up buying this branch for 5 Million. This division was later named Pixar Animation Studios, and the rest is, as they say. History.

[Killdren88]

Anyone have an idea where Red Skull ended up after The first avenger?