It always made sense to me as a kid how people would be wairy about superheroes. look at Northern Ireland i gtew up in the 80s in scottland. we were still weary of the Irish.
the US was still in the Coldwar.
sure Joe Bloggs will be wairy of the guy who can crush his spine whith his mind.
or the neighbor kid who can split atoms next door.
sure the Tomboy across the road is cute but she cost the little leage team a match buy turning the ball into a railgun.
Idiot civlians dont decern about good X and bad X look at 911 an how many inocent people were abused after by idiots. remember Jhonny getting curbstomped in Civelwar?
Honestly? It's how I would imagine real people would react.
Awestruck at first... but the second a building gets knocked down or a city has a power outage or a super-powered tidal wave comes crashing in, it turns into "having these guys around SUCKS." Which I can sympathize with - Spider-Man stopping purse snatchers doesn't compare to having my car blown up by pumpkin bombs.
There's being distrustful. Then there's going so far as to build 20 foot death robots that cause the robot apocalypse.
Assuming they actually work...
Except that her children are mutant-messiah power level as well? There's a genetic component going on there. Nathan Summers, Rachel Summers and Stryfe all are epic level in their power.
Just saying - the second you introduce a "people being born with powers" type of slice to the pie, it can get dicey REALLY quick with the number of super-powered folks running around the place. So much so that it can devalue the already existing heroes pretty fast without some narrative tap dancing.
That is the problem with JEEEEEEEEEEEEAN really. She and her family are vastly overpowered. Especially Cable. Not enough he's a super powerful telepath and telekinetic. He also carries guns the size of my entire body.
The only issue I really have is Marvel has Mutants and InHumans. Which are almost unabashedly the same thing.
There's being distrustful. Then there's going so far as to build 20 foot death robots that cause the robot apocalypse.
Assuming they actually work...
That is the problem with JEEEEEEEEEEEEAN really. She and her family are vastly overpowered. Especially Cable. Not enough he's a super powerful telepath and telekinetic. He also carries guns the size of my entire body.
The only issue I really have is Marvel has Mutants and InHumans. Which are almost unabashedly the same thing.
Heh. Sentinels... yeah, that's another problem. Look at Civil War - people were up in arms about having a database of hero identities. But where was Cap when congressmen were petitioning to have GIANT KILLER ROBOTS MURDERING PEOPLE IN THEIR SLEEP?! Some of the events in the X side of the house just made ZERO sense in light of the other non-mutant heroes/characters that existed. Unless they are all just anti-mutant racists as well, I suppose? LOL
I agree that the Summers/Grey bloodline was CRAY CRAY overpowered. But that's the problem with mutants - if you can breed more superheroes into existence, then there's very little stopping you from having Professor X and Magneto's long lost gay love test tube baby show up and crack the planet in half. I say that jokingly...
And I agree that the Injumans and mutants are a little too close. Especially Inhumans who are ALSO mutants - that's just nightmare fuel. But at least the Inhumans have the Terrigian Mists to help stem the tide of people just popping in out of the blue with new powers. In a world where New York City has more mutants living in its sewers than rats, who can honestly say that mutants across the world aren't numbering so high as to allow anything to happen at any given time with characters that you are barely introduced to?
Heh. Sentinels... yeah, that's another problem. Look at Civil War - people were up in arms about having a database of hero identities. But where was Cap when congressmen were petitioning to have GIANT KILLER ROBOTS MURDERING PEOPLE IN THEIR SLEEP?! Some of the events in the X side of the house just made ZERO sense in light of the other non-mutant heroes/characters that existed. Unless they are all just anti-mutant racists as well, I suppose? LOL
I agree that the Summers/Grey bloodline was CRAY CRAY overpowered. But that's the problem with mutants - if you can breed more superheroes into existence, then there's very little stopping you from having Professor X and Magneto's long lost gay love test tube baby show up and crack the planet in half. I say that jokingly...
And I agree that the Injumans and mutants are a little too close. Especially Inhumans who are ALSO mutants - that's just nightmare fuel. But at least the Inhumans have the Terrigian Mists to help stem the tide of people just popping in out of the blue with new powers. In a world where New York City has more mutants living in its sewers than rats, who can honestly say that mutants across the world aren't numbering so high as to allow anything to happen at any given time with characters that you are barely introduced to?
I actually think that point was brought up in Civil War.
I'd check. But that would require me to actually buy another trade of Civil War, and read it. I can't do that again.
Well you never know...
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Yeah, with Inhumans you can sparingly introduce new characters. Like the current Ms. Marvel. It's easier to control from a writing standpoint.
I actually think that point was brought up in Civil War.
I'd check. But that would require me to actually buy another trade of Civil War, and read it. I can't do that again.
Yeah, with Inhumans you can sparingly introduce new characters. Like the current Ms. Marvel. It's easier to control from a writing standpoint.
Well, I know Sentinels were a big part of Civil War. Its just weird that no one thought to bring that problem up long, LONG before then.
Maybe that's what the do with the reboot? Find a way to make mutants less likely to have kids, or breed, or pass on their power or whatever. I don't know how that would work, but heck... it's a brand new day. Time to start it right.
Well, I know Sentinels were a big part of Civil War. Its just weird that no one thought to bring that problem up long, LONG before then.
Maybe that's what the do with the reboot? Find a way to make mutants less likely to have kids, or breed, or pass on their power or whatever. I don't know how that would work, but heck... it's a brand new day. Time to start it right.
The X-Men have never, ever made sense in the regular Marvel continuity without (post Claremont, anyway) without ridiculous levels of bizarre racism.
Mutants.... LOL....... I just remember when DC hit Marvel below the belt with a joke in the show, Static Shock. In the episode, a T.V reporter was talking Virgil's first appearance as Static, calling him a "mutant" with electromagnetic powers. Virgil was angered by this and his best friend,Richie asked him if he has a better name. He then came up with name "Metahuman" ( The name DC uses for people born with powers, or has powers in general ) Richie then said it was "catchy" I always laugh at that part DC:1 Marvel:0 here's a video from the show, starting at 1:03
I dislike metahuman. It implies the person is somewhat like a human, not a human with super powers.
I liked the Brotherhood's term for it - ******-superior.
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Superior to what? A bit arrogant too. Anyway, considering all the alien and supernatural threats in the Marvel Universe, one would say nature produces individuals able to fight them would be a relief, but no, 99% attitude is "kill them with fire".
Hardly read anything by Marvel or DC nowadays. There's so much you can do keeping characters and setting within fixed static limits, and most has already been written better in the past. Especially with the current jerkass characters they are throwing around.
Anyway, considering all the alien and supernatural threats in the Marvel Universe, one would say nature produces individuals able to fight them would be a relief, but no, 99% attitude is "kill them with fire".
Hardly read anything by Marvel or DC nowadays. There's so much you can do keeping characters and setting within fixed static limits, and most has already been written better in the past. Especially with the current jerkass characters they are throwing around.
It is hard to keep a story universe going for decades without becoming either stale or way over the top. It's like a super powered soap opera at this point.
It is hard to keep a story universe going for decades without becoming either stale or way over the top. It's like a super powered soap opera at this point.
It always was. But after 40+ years of using the same characters and plots (Fantastic Four for instance is constantly recycling the same stories), it becomes stale. At least shonen manga changes character names and looks before repeating the same tale again.
It always was. But after 40+ years of using the same characters and plots (Fantastic Four for instance is constantly recycling the same stories), it becomes stale. At least shonen manga changes character names and looks before repeating the same tale again.
Time progression needs to happen. Characters need to grow up, old ones need to retire or even die. Change needs to happen and new heroes need to emerge and eclipse the old ones.
Of course... this has been tried and failed many times in Marvel and other comics. The big names have appeal outside of the comics, so it makes it difficult to put them on the shelf. So I'm not sure what they will do. Except bring Wolverine back from the dead and hope for the best.
How long has Franklin Richards been 9? How many times has the Human Torch embraced maturity to forget about it one writer later? Why was Spiderman breaking Gwen´s neck better then them marrying? How many times must mutants save the world before getting a bit of good PR? Why must their life´s be **** almost every day?
They aren´t trying very hard imho. And sales keep going down afaik. But they keep going the same way even harder, have to wonder how those marketing researches work. Odd, can almost say the same about Bioware´s games since Origins.
I gave up on comics when the price increases made it a hobby of youth. That said, the stories still seen on films are mostly ones I am familiar with from those better times.
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