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[RedIntifada]

It had to be a recent pregnancy. Like really recent. Otherwise the child wouldn't be tainted anymore. 

 

All of the conception options are post you becoming a Grey Warden (or Alistair/Logain being Grey Warden's) that isn't an issue. The issue is if you impregnate her in camp (even though you are tainted) she supposedly has a regular child... if however you have sex with her as the ritual then you produce ogb... the problem being that if she had fallen recently pregnant she shouldn't have been able to become pregnant again. 

[spinachdiaper]

The Dark Ritual shouldn't be a negative choice but rather a pragmatic one, plus whatever Morrigan wants i'd do it twice.

[VikingDream]

what if the warden was and elf how do you get a normal human baby then? 

[LightningPoodle]

Try doing the dark ritual but having someone else kill the archdemon. I haven't tried it yet but that might be a work around.

[sylvanaerie]

Man. I always do the ritual....I want my warden to live..That is what is nice about the keep. I can edit and have normal morrigan baby have loghain die and allistair in the wardens maybe???.....interesting..

 

Keep won't allow you to pick anything that breaks the original lore of the story.  So, if Loghain kills the archdemon, Alistair is either a wandering drunk, King with Anora or dead.

[spinachdiaper]

Try doing the dark ritual but having someone else kill the archdemon. I haven't tried it yet but that might be a work around.

In game it could happen but it was a bug I was told, I kept Loghain alive, Alistair ran off, made the OGB?

[LightningPoodle]

In game it could happen but it was a bug I was told, I kept Loghain alive, Alistair ran off, made the OGB?

 

It didn't feel like a bug... O the curse BioWare has placed upon us!

[schall_und_rauch]

Was it ever mentioned in the game that Morrigan was pregnant if you didn't go through the ritual?
I didn't know about the possibility of her having a human baby before the Keep.

Also, it surprises me that she let herself become pregnant, considering she planned the dark ritual from the start.

[VikingDream]

Ok what I mean is how can morrigan have a normal human baby if the warden romances her and is an elf and she doesn't do the DR with some one, and yes I know where babies come from but I assume if you romance her and don't have Alister or Lohgain do the DR then any baby she would have would be the wardens 0.o 

[spinachdiaper]

The real mind bending thing is the Flemeth, Morrigan, OGB triangle of intrigue and who's purpose is really being served?

[Todd23]

You could in fact romance Morrigan Leliana and Zeveran in one play through and not have to break up with any but it can be a little tricky that said that does cause problems for the end game dialog boxes you get and the save when it carried over to DA2 was messed up if i remember rightly.

You could be engaged in a romance with all the romances. But you could only complete a romance with one in a playthrough. ie You knew you completed Morrigan's when she asks you to break it off, and I think Zevran gives you an earring. I assume the keep was referring to a completed romance in the romance options. But the op was right, you could have a normal child with Morrigan no matter who you romanced.

[LightningPoodle]

Was it ever mentioned in the game that Morrigan was pregnant if you didn't go through the ritual?
I didn't know about the possibility of her having a human baby before the Keep.

Also, it surprises me that she let herself become pregnant, considering she planned the dark ritual from the start.

 

If you romanced her, and had sex with her, she becomes pregnant but doesn't realise it. If you don't do the dark ritual, it says at the end with those whatyamacallsits that she was seen with a bump or something along those lines.

[RedIntifada]

Was it ever mentioned in the game that Morrigan was pregnant if you didn't go through the ritual?
I didn't know about the possibility of her having a human baby before the Keep.

Also, it surprises me that she let herself become pregnant, considering she planned the dark ritual from the start.

 

It is in the text of the epilogue that she is pregnant if you have sex with her even if you don't go ahead with the dark ritual.

[RedIntifada]

what if the warden was and elf how do you get a normal human baby then? 

 

The lore has established that if a human and elf have a baby then the baby will be human... which is one of the reasons why humans are now vastly outnumbering elves.

 

There is no mention yet of what happens if a dwarf and a human have a child though.

[sylvanaerie]

The lore has established that if a human and elf have a baby then the baby will be human... which is one of the reasons why humans are now vastly outnumbering elves.

 

There is no mention yet of what happens if a dwarf and a human have a child though.

 

Half dwarves.  It's been mentioned on the BSN, but not in the games themselves.

[RedIntifada]

Half dwarves.  It's been mentioned on the BSN, but not in the games themselves.

 

Interesting. Was it someone from the Bioware team who said it? Until it is on the page/screen I doubt it will be cannon if they change it for plot reasons.

Still it would be cool if a dwarf inquisitors child looks different to a human or elfs child.

[VikingDream]

Yeah but that's like saying 2+2 =3 the genetic material comes from both an elf and human how can half a baby magically forget to be half an elf and become human, makes no sense can some one point me to the lore around this so I can unboggle my mind please lol. 

[sylvanaerie]

Interesting. Was it someone from the Bioware team who said it? Until it is on the page/screen I doubt it will be cannon if they change it for plot reasons.

Still it would be cool if a dwarf inquisitors child looks different to a human or elfs child.

 

Yea they keep redefining what's lore in the game all the time.  Sometimes even contradicting what's in the game.  I believe it was Gaider himself on an old Origins thread discussing elven genetics.

 

In fact, the human who gives the Slim Couldry quests in Denerim was supposed to have been an 'elf blooded human'.

[RedIntifada]

Yeah but that's like saying 2+2 =3 the genetic material comes from both an elf and human how can half a baby magically forget to be half an elf and become human, makes no sense can some one point me to the lore around this so I can unboggle my mind please lol. 

 

I am fairly sure it is in the instruction manual and yes there are a few human children of elves in the game. I think being human must be the uber dominant gene in terms of appearance... kind of like the Asari in Mass Effect.

[Kantr]

Yeah but that's like saying 2+2 =3 the genetic material comes from both an elf and human how can half a baby magically forget to be half an elf and become human, makes no sense can some one point me to the lore around this so I can unboggle my mind please lol. 

Human Genetics overtake the elf genetics. It's in word of thedas and the DA:2. Plus Alistair is half elf.

[Darkly Tranquil]

Yeah but that's like saying 2+2 =3 the genetic material comes from both an elf and human how can half a baby magically forget to be half an elf and become human, makes no sense can some one point me to the lore around this so I can unboggle my mind please lol. 

 

Direct from DavidGaider:

 

The child of elf-blooded humans and an elf is another elf-blooded human. Whether or not such a line would eventually become more "elven" is unknown -- the elf-blooded don't tend to distinguish themselves as a group for cultural reasons, and more often then not find themselves living amongst humans rather than elves. Saying that elves have recessive genes obviously isn't the answer -- I said a long time ago on the forums that elven genetics were "adaptive", but that's just an attempt to explain the phenomenon since people were insisting on talking about genetics. The elves don't know why it happens, and there's no understanding of genetics in the world to explain it... if that would even be the reason. More likely it has a supernatural origin relating to the nature of the elves themselves, though what that might be and whether or not the elves were truly once the immortals they claim simply isn't known.

Ref: http://forum.bioware...lf-races/page-3 (post 68)

[Eveangaline]

You could be engaged in a romance with all the romances. But you could only complete a romance with one in a playthrough. ie You knew you completed Morrigan's when she asks you to break it off, and I think Zevran gives you an earring. I assume the keep was referring to a completed romance in the romance options. But the op was right, you could have a normal child with Morrigan no matter who you romanced.

 

You can complete more than one in one playthrough.

[DuckTheSecond]

It's quite simple in my opinion.

 

If you romanced Morrigan and did not do the dark ritual -> Morrigan accidentally became pregnant before the ritual was even proposed

 

If you did the dark ritual -> Morrigan never got pregnant before she proposed the dark ritual.

 

It's just a matter of coincidence.

[VikingDream]

Maybe a stalk came and pecked a whole in morrigans head and dropped a baby in there? But sadly it would be nice if say human mages were explained by say having elf blood or something along those lines just because I like that idea lol