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[DeinonSlayer]

Yes, and that's really great if you're into art. If you're not, its just a black square anyone can make.

Reminds me of something I saw at the Chicago art institute. Someone took twenty-five pieces of graph paper, a ruler, and a pencil, and drew a diagonal line from the top-left to the bottom-right corner of each sheet of paper, then arranged them in a five-by-five grid. That was it. Just straight lines on graph paper. It was called "downward trend." The museum had a whole wall devoted to it. Probably paid the SOB more than I make in a year for it.

I hate modern art.

[Farangbaa]

That black square is from before any of use were born though

Unless we got some people on here who're nearing a hundred

[DeinonSlayer]

I only wish I could say the above was fake... and that someone hadn't willingly paid €124,000 for it...

[KaiserShep]

Yeah, lets talk about the 'quality' of art:

 

 

As one who is into art and makes some myself, this sort of thing is as fascinating to me as watching water evaporate, but as someone who really likes money, I really think I should start spilling things on other things and having them framed to see what they go for.

 

I just need to think of a really pretentiously written bio for my personal blog, and then drink myself to sleep knowing that I officially gutted my own soul.

[Jorji Costava]

@DeinonSlayer:

 

I guess you wouldn't be a fan of Duchamp's "Fountain," then.

 

[DeinonSlayer]

I can **** in a tin can, too. Would someone pay me €124,000 for it?

Wait, no, if I accrue that kind of money, I'd rather it not be for reasons I'd be embarrassed to tell to anyone.

@osbornep

[Farangbaa]

I really think I should start spilling things on other things and having them framed to see what they go for.

Do it. Show me the results

[KaiserShep]

You could basically put anything in that can and bank on the sucker buyer simply never opening it. And if the person does open it, and complains that there's no actual **** in there, simply state that it was metaphorical.

[ImaginaryMatter]

I only wish I could say the above was fake... and that someone hadn't willingly paid €124,000 for it...

 

Think about it like this. There's at least two people in the world crazier than you.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

No. There is only one person crazier - the person who bought it. The smarter person made it, and laughed all the way to the bank. I can hear them thinking - "I can't believe someone actually bought that sh*t and paid that much for it. OMG what an idiot."

[themikefest]

No. There is only one person crazier - the person who bought it. The smarter person made it, and laughed all the way to the bank. I can hear them thinking - "I can't believe someone actually bought that sh*t and paid that much for it. OMG what an idiot."

You could say the same for all the others that buy some of the stuff that is sold

 

I remember people selling bricks claiming they were from the Berlin Wall when it came down.

[DeinonSlayer]

You could say the same for all the others that buy some of the stuff that is sold
 
I remember people selling bricks claiming they were from the Berlin Wall when it came down.

What was that line from DA:O? You could make ten prophets from the "fingerbones of Andraste" for sale on the streets of Denerim.

[KaiserShep]

I guess I have one last thing to say about the thread topic. I'm allergic to protagonist deaths that have no sense of drama about them. If it feels more like a formality to get to the credits and put the franchise in a coffin than a truly thoughtful resolution for a character's journey, then I'd just do without. At least the game [somewhat mercifully] provides an out (shuddup iakus it does! ), though even that is only marginally satisfactory.

[Obadiah]

Well then, its a good thing there is so much "drama" around Shepard's death.

[KaiserShep]

The Big Changes are dramatic, but Shepard's death, to me, is not. Two of them happen with the player's foreknowledge, but the other may happen simply because of the game score. The memorial is nice enough, but it also feels horribly misplaced, and that's aside from the awkward divination of Shepard's [potential] survival, despite a nameplate being made. Maybe they make one for everyone that boards the ship and they keep it in a lockbox somewhere, just in case . But, in fairness, a lot of this has to do with the fact that it's working around the tragically assembled original ending, rather than being a restructured conclusion.

[SporkFu]

No. There is only one person crazier - the person who bought it. The smarter person made it, and laughed all the way to the bank. I can hear them thinking - "I can't believe someone actually bought that sh*t and paid that much for it. OMG what an idiot."

I'm just amazed the 'artist' actually signed it. 

[KaiserShep]

I'm just amazed the 'artist' actually signed it. 

 

The art world favors the audacious.

[DeinonSlayer]

The art world favors the audacious.

To be fair, it is pretty much the biggest thing Apollo 10 is remembered for.

[SporkFu]

The art world favors the audacious.

Just noticed the number stamped on it, too. "055" ... presumably the 55th can in a set. 

[KaiserShep]

Just noticed the number stamped on it, too. "055" ... presumably the 55th can in a set. 

 

You could potentially buy them all and corner the market.

[DeinonSlayer]

You could potentially buy them all and corner the market.

"What can I say? Last night was Fajitas night."

[dreamgazer]

You could potentially buy them all and corner the market.

Eh, I think that'd be a pretty foul idea.

[angol fear]

You need to back out of your own dead end and before accusing other people of it.

Art is about emotional response. You can analyse the technical aspects all you wish but that doesn't tell you anything about whether it succeeds as art - a technical manual or scientific paper are full of technical accuracy (hopefully) but no emotion. I don't think that I mentioned cooking books so I'm not sure why you're saying that I did. The point is that technical perfection doesn't have to relate to emotion at all. When it comes to art the whole thing is subjective. "It's established as a masterpiece" just means that some other people say that it is. You cannot say that anything is one objectively and to imply that you can is straightjacketing you. Nailing the technical aspects of a work of art doesn't guarentee a masterpiece (although anything that fails to do so almost certainly can't be one) and emotion is subjective. You need to learn to deal with that, that not everything can be measured and accounted for.

You're stuck in a "not entirely separate so there's no separation at all" attitude. Failing to see any separation at all where greys exist isn't any better than viewing things in black and white when there are overlaps.

 

Ok, we'll stop here. You don't know what art is. Sorry but "Art is about emotional response" and "When it comes to art the whole thing is subjective" that's totally absurd, that's basic way of thinking coming from some people who have never experienced art (writing, composing etc...) or even think a little about it.

[KaiserShep]

Well, art is produced primarily for its aesthetic appeal and to evoke emotional responses.