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[veeia]

I feel like Varric was designed from the grounds up with being the player's BFF as priority in DA2. Smooth as hell, easy going, gels with (almost) everyone, sense of humor, non-judgemental, heart of gold, infallible(almost), who can do little wrong. Personally I would like to see some actual character development in DAI. This kind of applies to all the companions, but Varric especially, since we already know him so well.

I think his relationship with the Inquisitor will be interesting because it's not just the game who designs Varric to be Hawke's BFF, it's also actually Varric.

Varric hand picks you, shows you how to rise up, and writes your narrative in game too. He's the writer of Hawke's story on so many levels. He sits in the Hanged Man and builds up the Champion. He does this because he's your friend, but it also benefits him. Varric doesn't see himself as the hero, but that's not true humility because he sees himself as the storyteller.

The Inquisitor already has a narrative. You're already the Herald, you already have a purpose, and you're being led to it by Cassandra (and maybe Solas)? And Varric is the one being dragged by her. He's not the narrator here, he doesn't get to shape the Inquisitor like he does Hawke. All his control breaks down. (Not that this is how he explicitly sees Hawke, they are genuinely friends...just to clarify)

Like I said, Varric is not a bad guy, so he's not going to be like I MUST BE THE MANIPULATING GOD WHO PULLS TJE STRINGS, but it's just such a different situation, one that he hasn't crafted at all, one that he doesn't know the next chapter of, let alone the ending. Its gonna be much rougher for him, and I think his friendship with the Inquisitor will reflect this. We may end up being HIS rock, instead of the other way around.

[Ferraro]

I don't like Varric either, he is a good written character and stuff but he is just I guess a type of character I don't like.

[90s Luke]

I feel like Varric was designed from the grounds up with being the player's BFF as priority in DA2. Smooth as hell, easy going, gels with (almost) everyone, sense of humor, non-judgemental, heart of gold, infallible(almost), who can do little wrong.

 

That's my problem with Varric. He's generally portrayed as non-threatening and flawless, which makes sense because the events of DA2 were told by him. In effect, Varric makes himself a "Mary Sue" character. In my opinion, DA2's frame narrative was a major hindrance to Varric's character development.

[ICevoL]

The point to Varric isn't to learn about him. It's to revel in the one-liners. If you either don't like one-liners or don't like his one-liners, then you're not going to like him.

 

I like him just fine (see "I enjoyed him in DA2" in my first post).  His one-liners are not a factor for me.  I just don't like him taking up a slot/resources that could have gone into creating a new character *shrug*

 

I'll take him around occasionally, but I'll spend more time travelling with the new characters than with him.  I did the same with the "recycled Oghren" in DAA -- he stayed behind more often than not. Just how I roll.

[Krothar]

Like I said, if we can customize Varric's gear a little this time around, I'll probably bring him on missions every now and then, simply because I will at least be able to change his armor, so I won't get bored of looking at "Not-So-Dwarf". 

 

Though, as many have said, if he has been written differently this time around, he may be enjoyable. I am purposefully making a save where he keeps a shard of the Lyrium idol, see if that comes into play somewhere.

[Vox Draco]

I like Varric as a Character.  I just hate the DA community when it comes to Varric.  Even this thread leads to people making chest hair references as if it was clever...  That horse had been beat to death and then some.  It was not even that funny in the beginning.  That's my problem with Varric.

 

Damn ...

 

Okay, something else then: I hardly use him as a group-member, because I find his skills in combat rather useless. But as a character? I like him. Maybe because he is so much not-Oghren, or not-Giml, or not-generic-fantasy-dwarf. Yet still is a dwarf. (and thinking about it, I like the whole DA-take on the dwarves in general, with their caste-system and all...much more interesting than general beard-and-beer-dwarves)

 

And...yeah...I will admit he won me over when he told his personal story with his brother, and we see him storm teh house alone, killing hundreds of cronies like Bruce Willis...I was indeed WTF ... and it still makes me chuckle.

 

All in all he is a more lighthearted character, which truly is needed in these games with so many brooding, dark, problem-ridden sulkers and "depressos"

[Johun]

Like I said, if we can customize Varric's gear a little this time around, I'll probably bring him on missions every now and then, simply because I will at least be able to change his armor, so I won't get bored of looking at "Not-So-Dwarf". 

 

Though, as many have said, if he has been written differently this time around, he may be enjoyable. I am purposefully making a save where he keeps a shard of the Lyrium idol, see if that comes into play somewhere.

Varric seems to have kept his fascination to Red Lyrim. According to one of the Twitch streams in the Emerald Graves, one of the open world activities the Inquisitor can engage in is finding objects in the world for the companions. Varric's interest is in Red Lyrium, the other example given was Vivienne who is looking for lost books of Circle lore.

[frylock23]

Oh, I like Varric and I'm plenty glad to see him return for DA:I. I also think there is plenty of room for us to see Varric develop for a couple reasons:

 

1.) As has been pointed out, Varric narrated DA2. He is the classic unreliable narrator as any first person narrator is. We don't actually know the real Varric. DA:I has room to change that.

 

2.) The Keep says that Varric considers himself to Hawke's best friend to this day, not the Inquisitor's. If this game leads him to a conflict of interest which is entirely possible, which way do you think he might jump and how do you think that will change the character we all think we know?

 

But, I can definitely understand not liking a character. I never liked Liara and Morrigan, two characters a lot of people liked. Some people just don't like some characters.

[MisterJB]

Yes, actually.

[Yermogi]

His character is meh to me, I just found myself using him a lot because he was an awesome archer. Way better than Sebastian.

Well, it IS Sebastian. Isolde is marginally better than him, and I let her sacrifice herself so I wouldn't have to hear her obnoxious accent anymore.

[rapscallioness]

I like Varric. And I always felt he had much more edge to him than ppl noted. I viewed his humor as a veil. One that he learned to employ after having to grow up with someone like Bartrand. It was always his way of dealing, and sometimes diffusing a situation. But I feel that really comes from having to deal with an in your face personality like Bartrand.

 

But that edginess is there. I mean, heck, when we first meet him he's using this deceptively light hearted, "Now, run along.." after he prolly broke that guys jaw, and then ripped the arrow out of his flesh. lol! And the same with Dupuis if you don;t kill him. Bam! Arrow to the throat, rips it out, then acts all light hearted.

 

Varric plays it off, but he'll cut ya. He's not just some cheery, happy go lucky fella. I think in DAI, we're gonna see a more complicated situation with him.

[Massakkolia]

My problem with Varric in DA2 was that his relationship with Hawke always felt very superficial to me. Their discussions hardly ever had any depth to them. At the end of the game, I felt I knew most of the companions and their motivations quite well except for Varric. 

 

Some people compare Varric to Garrus, but I don't see many similarities (other than the "designed to be your buddy" factor). With Garrus the discussions almost always revolved around morality. His attitude towards Shepard was deferential in the first game, and in the later sequels he gains confidence and starts to build his own legacy while maintaining respect/love for Shepard. 

 

With Varric we hardly ever delve into the topics of morality. He never lets us really underneath his shell, although we got a little glimpse of something interesting with his conflicting relationship with his brother, but even then we only scratched the surface.

 

I like that Varric is his own person and doesn't need Hawke's guidance in life. The PC has to play a therapist already far too much in Bioware games. Still, I would have wanted to learn about his aspirations in life, his career as a writer, and his relationship with Bianca (the woman). Dragon Age Keep claims that at the end of DA2 Varric can consider Hawke to be his best friend. I never got that feeling in the game. He was unoffensive, hard to dislike and always friendly, but never anything more than that.

 

All that being said, I actually like that Varric is making a comeback in DAI. There's a lot about him that we don't know about. Since the foundation was already laid in DA2, there's a huge amount of potential to elevate Varric to a great character. 

[Hair Serious Business]

Actually considering how most of companions in DA2 were Varric was only one I did liked and Merrial and Aveline as well.

 

-Isabela I liked until I found out she was reason why Qunari have been stuck whole time wich later led to many innocent people deaths in all honesty I always give her to Qunari because of two reasons :

1)If Loghain deserved no mercy for what he is done then Isabela should recive same treatment.

2)Fight with Arishok is one of fights I try to forget every time ._. and to fight or to say better run from Arishok whole time simply to save selfish ****** like Isabela is not worth it!

-Fenris & Anders every blasted conversation I had with them started with some agenda against mages or templars.Fenris annoys hell out of me with his damn attitude like "I'm only one that has suffered no one in life has more suffered then me"I hate it in fact each time he has attitude as that I just want to punch him.Yes he was slave and all blah blah but that doesn't give him right to act as only one that has suffered in this life.

-Sebastian....................I just wish there was tape to tape his mouth.His "Maker & Andraste" drove me nuts more then anyone else.If he has found comfort and repentance for all his sins in Maker...then stop forcing everyone else around to do same and stop counting mine or anyone else's sins.

 

So with companions as these Varric is like God's gift for me and huge refresh in party to have.He did disappoint me in Act 3 where he wanted to keep that blasted peace of idol even though he knew what that idol has done to people.

[Yermogi]

The only thing about Varric that I didn't like was that his relationship with Hawke was very give-and-give on Hawke's part. She (well, she was a 'she' for me) told Varric everything. He was there when Bethany/Carver went into the Deep Roads, he was there when Hawke's mother was killed- he played a big part in her life at Kirkwall, but yet he never told her anything about him. It seemed like an unfair exchange to me. You can't say you're best friends with someone when you know everything about them but they know next to nothing about you. 

[DarkKnightHolmes]

His a kiss ass like Garrus. Most players love having their ego boosted.

[HK-90210]

I disagree. Varric is a good guy, but he's not perfect and selfless. Its in his best interest to foster good relationships with people because knowing people and getting them to like him is his business. Yes, he genuinely cares, but he uses that caring as a tool as well as a trait. And he's very invested in his comfort and general stability. Those are not bad traits, but ones that conflict with any kind of character who wants to change things in ways that are fast or too much for him.

Varric hides all that well. He's not antagonistic, but he does get passive aggressive if you rival him or choose decisions he doesn't like. Shrug. I think people tend to flatten him a bit, just like they do Garrus, because he never outright disagrees with the player.

 

I disagree. It's not in Varric's best interest to pay "a fortune" to keep the street thugs off of Merrill when she wanders the alienage at night, nor really to be friends with Hawke, or any of his/her associates at all. His friends are not a financial boon. It's not like Merrill is all that valuable to him, or gives him anything(directly) in return for his help. The fact is that he cares for Daisy, as well as his other friends, more than himself. Sebastian and Carver are the only ones of Hawke's entourage who we can safely say are not friends of Varric. But he'll help them because of Hawke, and that friendship/respect he has with him/her.

[AnubisOnly]

Varric is neutral to me, but I think It would be cool if we meet someone from DA2 that Varric knows.. 

[DarkKnightHolmes]

I disagree. It's not in Varric's best interest to pay "a fortune" to keep the street thugs off of Merrill when she wanders the alienage at night, nor really to be friends with Hawke, or any of his/her associates at all. His friends are not a financial boon. It's not like Merrill is all that valuable to him, or gives him anything(directly) in return for his help. The fact is that he cares for Daisy, as well as his other friends, more than himself. Sebastian and Carver are the only ones of Hawke's entourage who we can safely say are not friends of Varric. But he'll help them because of Hawke, and that friendship/respect he has with him/her.

 

Varric and Carver hang out in the hanged man together for drinks. I'd say they're pretty good friends.

[Hazegurl]

I took Varric with me almost everywhere, but not because I liked him but because the alternative was Merrill and Anders. Aveline would have gone everywhere with me but she was too much of  a goodie two shoes and I don't like rivaling her. So it was Fenris, Isabela, and Varric all the way. I considered him a friend and a pretty cool guy but I didn't particularly like him or thought of him as my Hawke's bff. I can't call him a bootlicker like Garrus but he was designed to be your dude bro and that made him too artificial to me.  I would have rather had Cullen as a companion or a brand new character than Varric in DAI. I'm not in the mood to have him dude broing all over my Inquisitor. I've also never taken to companions I couldn't get rid of in some way.

[Aurok]

I wouldn't say I dislike Varric per se, but I think he's pretty dull as a character. On the other hand I disliked Alistair from the very first cutscene. I tend to prefer the stronger individuals like Sten to the sidekick companions.

Isabela probably impressed me most out of any companion in the series though. She is very easy to dismiss as just the token sassy / incredibly competent female character, and it's not until you get to know her that you discover that her brash persona is mostly just an act to hide her insecurities. I thought that was quite insightful and quite a brave direction to take a female character in. As a result she turns out to be one of the most layered, flawed and believable characters in the series.

[New Kid]

I wouldn't say I dislike Varric per se, but I think he's pretty dull as a character. On the other hand I disliked Alistair from the very first cutscene. I tend to prefer the stronger individuals like Sten to the sidekick companions.

Isabela probably impressed me most out of any companion in the series though. She is very easy to dismiss as just the token sassy / incredibly competent female character, and it's not until you get to know her that you discover that her brash persona is mostly just an act to hide her insecurities. I thought that was quite insightful and quite a brave direction to take a female character in. As a result she turns out to be one of the most layered, flawed and believable characters in the series.

Not that I'm ragging on Isabela, but isn't the sassy persona a common trope for covering up flaws and insecurities? 

[Kinsz]

Varric is the anti Anders which makes him a bro in my book , he doesn't whine , he has your back at all times and he is funny.

[Sifr]

I feel like Varric was designed from the grounds up with being the player's BFF as priority in DA2. Smooth as hell, easy going, gels with (almost) everyone, sense of humor, non-judgemental, heart of gold, infallible(almost), who can do little wrong. Personally I would like to see some actual character development in DAI. This kind of applies to all the companions, but Varric especially, since we already know him so well.

 

Actually, Varric was orignally concieved of being a more sleazier, untrustworthy kind of guy, but they wanted to have a companion who'd back up Hawke against all the opposing personalities in the group, so they rewrote him into a wisecracking bro.

 

I actually love Varric's character, but if I have to pick a fault with him, it's got to be that he's far more neutral and less pro-active of a character than Hawke ever was, since Hawke was ultimately forced to get off the fence and actually pick a side to fight for, whereas Varric is reluctant to commit to either and decides to simply follow their friend's lead?

[robertmarilyn]

Both Carver and Anders liked to hang out with Varric (Anders even wanted to leave the pillow his mom made him, to Varric).  And I enjoyed hearing his banter with the other characters. But I still liked taking everybody else with me better than taking Varric. 

 

I think the reason I most like Varric being in the new game is that I'm hoping that we learn more about Hawke and his companions, by Varric being in the new game. And by getting to know Varric better, maybe I'll like him better...as other's have said, he was pretty much a closed book when it came to personal things.