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[veeia]

I disagree. It's not in Varric's best interest to pay "a fortune" to keep the street thugs off of Merrill when she wanders the alienage at night, nor really to be friends with Hawke, or any of his/her associates at all. His friends are not a financial boon. It's not like Merrill is all that valuable to him, or gives him anything(directly) in return for his help. The fact is that he cares for Daisy, as well as his other friends, more than himself. Sebastian and Carver are the only ones of Hawke's entourage who we can safely say are not friends of Varric. But he'll help them because of Hawke, and that friendship/respect he has with him/her.

 

Oh, I don't mean that every action he takes is motivated by profit. He's going to be nice and accommodating to most people because that's good business, but he also genuinely enjoys other people and can grow to care about them deeply. I mean, after Act 1/2, his relationship to most everyone is on a friendship/family level, not a business partners level. I just don't think he's selfless or perfect or even tempered all the time. I think he's controlled and methodical. He tries to take care of others and tell their stories instead of letting people take care of him or tell his story. (And yes, compared to the drama llamas in Da2, that's a bit of a relief, but it's also kind of sad to me). And a wonderful friend, of course. But he's got sharper edges, and we're definitely going to see them in da3, imo. 

[Potato Cat]

I disliked him in DA2. I didn't find him funny, (with the one exception of him exaggerating at the start of one of his personaly quests), or engaging. I still will hardly ever put him in the party in favour of better rogues, (i.e Sera).

Having said that, however, I think he will be more interesting in DAI. Especially considering Bianca's likely involvement, the fact I let him keep the red lyrium shard, and that he's not just going to be okay with whatever we do.
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I was also quite disappointed he was not a LI, since his thread was (and probably still is) just lovely. Plus, in the grand scheme of things, what with Vivienne not being romanceable, we are deprived of a Mary Kirby romance.

[Doctor Chopper]

I used to really dislike him, but i'm kind of neutral towards him now. I didn't ever take him out with me in DA2 so i mostly just forgot about him i guess (even with him narrating the entire game).

 

Like others have said though, i'm just disappointed that he's taking up a companion space instead of someone else in inquisition. 

 

 

[JasonPogo]

I'll throw my hat in with the not liking him taking up a roster slot in your party.  While I like Varric just fine his main character point was being Hawke's best friend.  So putting him in another characters story seems silly to me.  Also In games like Dragon Age with new main protagonists reusing the same characters over and over makes the world shrink.

[Spaghetti_Ninja]

Varric and Cassandra being stuck together as uneasy allies is one of my favourite parts of the new game. So I'm on Team Varric.

[CuriousArtemis]

Uneducated HEATHENS!  The old rogue with a heart of gold, bro character and you don't like him?  I suppose you philistines all hate Garrus too!

 

I am equally indifferent to both characters I find them kind of bland and never felt a special friendship or rapport with either of them. In fact I just finished another ME series playthrough, and this time I recall thinking, while talking to Garrus, Gosh he really does remind me of Varric... no wonder he's boring

 

Of course it is all personal opinion and nothing against the excellent writers of these two guys!

[Hobbes]

I'm not a fan of his either, I can't put my finger on what makes me dislike him though, something about him just rubs me the wrong way.  I even thought he had a funny line here and there, but I just couldn't bring myself to like him.  Perhaps it is what other people said, that he is almost too much of a nice guy to the point where it made him somewhat bland?  I'm also a little resentful of the fact that he is in the this new DA and taking up a slot that could be used for somebody else...but I suppose I'll give him a chance.

 

Varric and Cassandra being stuck together as uneasy allies is one of my favourite parts of the new game. So I'm on Team Varric.

I have to say, even with all that I just said, this is one bit I'm looking forward to as well.  It should be a fun dynamic, in my case I'm hoping a new environment may bring out a new side to Varric.

[BellPeppers&Beef023]

The only thing about Varric that I didn't like was that his relationship with Hawke was very give-and-give on Hawke's part. She (well, she was a 'she' for me) told Varric everything. He was there when Bethany/Carver went into the Deep Roads, he was there when Hawke's mother was killed- he played a big part in her life at Kirkwall, but yet he never told her anything about him. It seemed like an unfair exchange to me. You can't say you're best friends with someone when you know everything about them but they know next to nothing about you. 

Exactly. In a way, I feel that Varric is much more of the player's best friend than Hawke's best friend. Its quite hard for me to be oblivious to the intention behind his character design, the designated Bro. Hopefully, the relationship between Varric and the Inquisitor is going to carry a different dynamic (and this extends to his interactions with the other companions as well; no more being the protective brother/friend to all), or else he will be running the risk of being one-dimensional.

 

Actually, Varric was orignally concieved of being a more sleazier, untrustworthy kind of guy, but they wanted to have a companion who'd back up Hawke against all the opposing personalities in the group, so they rewrote him into a wisecracking bro.

 

I actually love Varric's character, but if I have to pick a fault with him, it's got to be that he's far more neutral and less pro-active of a character than Hawke ever was, since Hawke was ultimately forced to get off the fence and actually pick a side to fight for, whereas Varric is reluctant to commit to either and decides to simply follow their friend's lead?

 

 

And its quite understandable why they did that (funny, because the sleazy vibe is exactly what i had of Varric in the trailers before launch). Personally, when 5 out of the 8 companions turn out to be downright repulsive, for right or wrong reasons (all of the romance options, including Sebastian), you need someone like Varric to cover your back. But like I said, his character needs to evolve in DAI.

 

 

 

[Sir DeLoria]

I preferred Sebastian as the Archer of the party.

As a character I like him, but his snarky remarks really get on your nerves after a while.

[TheKinkyHuntress]

He's the Garrus of Dragon Age. But I like him

[MouseHopper]

I think that CastonFolarus (Post #14 forgive me I don't know how to copy them into my own post) has hit the nail firmly on the head with this interpretation of Varric.  For me he was the perfect friend and ally.  I liked his character very much and look forward to seeing him in DAI.  And I too am looking forward to exploring his personality further and getting a more in depth look into his real persona, as has been mentioned by several other posters.

[AlexiaRevan]

I think that CastonFolarus (Post #14 forgive me I don't know how to copy them into my own post) has hit the nail firmly on the head with this interpretation of Varric.  For me he was the perfect friend and ally.  I liked his character very much and look forward to seeing him in DAI.  And I too am looking forward to exploring his personality further and getting a more in depth look into his real persona, as has been mentioned by several other posters.

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[AlexiaRevan]

I love Varric....the way you meet him is so Stylish !   

 

He is a Dwarf......that alone make me like him . He is always in my party , because his banter with isabela and Aveline/Merril is priceless . 

That chest Hairrrrr!!! 

 

He is easy going , he talk alot and always has your back . He doesn't complain and god know after what happen with his brother he could whine and whine..but he doesn't . he is also very mature and know when to stop joking around and be serious . 

 

He also..doesn't whine . I always friend him and can't wait to see him again 

[Lady Artifice]

It's a little bizarre how many people are listing "he doesn't fit the stereotype of a dwarf enough for me" and "he's designed with too many nice qualities" for me to really like him.

 

Then people go on to complain about the snark. Snarky and nice are two very different approaches to a situation, and he makes both those aspects mesh into a layered character, the same way you can with Hawke. Varric is less than nice a lot of the time, but he's also capable of being genuinely kind. Kind is a very special and rare thing in Thedas.

 

He's my favorite. I can't wait to have him in my party again.

[Warden Commander Aeducan]

I like him a lot in DAII as a character, and probably because he's not a badly written character, he has a good sense of humor, not judgmental, loyal and basically a person with a heart of gold while compare to most companions in DAII, he's is the person who barely complains and second guess you every ten seconds. However when it comes down to DAI, I feel rather disappointed that he takes up a companion slot in DAI. I don't mind that he doesn't fit the fantasy Dwarves stereotype, but I find it odd that he seems to have zero empathy for his people (those who still live in the Deep Roads), and while I understand that he born on the surface I find it strange that he doesn't seem to care about fellow Dwarves who live in the Deep Roads at all, and even Zevran who seems to be merciless killer has empathy for his people, and he showed it when the Warden wants to side with the Werewolves or making deals with Tevinter Slavers.

 

I usually don't mind an old returning companion, but I feel like he should remain as a story teller, the narrator role and there should be a room for someone new to shine and play their part, and I don't see there is much left to learn more about Varric. That said when it comes down to DA community, I feel like people overly value Varric simply because he's funny and not judgmental, while those are the good traits that most people like to have in friends. I feel like Varric is a bit overrated when people consider him the best companion in DA game, but overlook other companion.

[(Disgusted noise.)]

I don't dislike him, but I don't have the boner for him that's typical of a Dragon Age fan. He'd probably be in the middle of the pack if I ranked all the companions from DAO/DAA/DA2.

[HK-90210]

Oh, I don't mean that every action he takes is motivated by profit. He's going to be nice and accommodating to most people because that's good business, but he also genuinely enjoys other people and can grow to care about them deeply. I mean, after Act 1/2, his relationship to most everyone is on a friendship/family level, not a business partners level. I just don't think he's selfless or perfect or even tempered all the time. I think he's controlled and methodical. He tries to take care of others and tell their stories instead of letting people take care of him or tell his story. (And yes, compared to the drama llamas in Da2, that's a bit of a relief, but it's also kind of sad to me). And a wonderful friend, of course. But he's got sharper edges, and we're definitely going to see them in da3, imo. 

 

Fair points. and I probably should have stressed that Varric is selfless to his friends and people he knows and likes. I doubt he's handing sovereigns out to every begger. And yes, he definitely seems sharper in DA:I. I mean, his dialogue with Cassandra that we've heard is bitter and angry, a very different Varric than the one we saw at the end of DAII. On the other hand, I don't think he'll lose much of his charm or general desire to help his friends. He's just going to be a little less gregarious towards people he dislikes. Cassandra and Iron Bull chief among them, I think.

[(Disgusted noise.)]

Fair points. and I probably should have stressed that Varric is selfless to his friends and people he knows and likes. I doubt he's handing sovereigns out to every begger. And yes, he definitely seems sharper in DA:I. I mean, his dialogue with Cassandra that we've heard is bitter and angry, a very different Varric than the one we saw at the end of DAII. On the other hand, I don't think he'll lose much of his charm or general desire to help his friends. He's just going to be a little less gregarious towards people he dislikes. Cassandra and Iron Bull chief among them, I think.

I'm really excited about the fact that he has people he doesn't get along with this game. I think one of the things I didn't like about Varric, but hadn't realized it until now, is that fact that he was everyone's best friend. The only person he didn't like was Sebastian, and even then he limited it to just a little light teasing. There's just something disconcerting/unrealisitic about someone who gets along with everyone. We've all got our buttons that get pushed, even if another person is unaware they're doing it.

[Drasanil]

Varric is ok, but I really did wish we had another dwarf companion instead. Mostly because I'm a sucker for the classic fantasy party composition, so I'll almost always end up taking him along since he's the only dwarf available to fill out the slot unless I roll a dwarf myself. 

[SomeoneStoleMyName]

I like Varric for many reasons. The main one seeing abit of myself in him. Someone with relaxed, chilled and un-judgmental character. In real life, I have a thick skin and it takes a lot to make me genuinely angry or offended. 

On the flip side, and quiet ironically - what actually DO get me offended - is people who gets easily offended Not sure what the english language antonym of "Thick skinned" is, glass skinned? Cant stand people who take life too seriously and gets easily mad, offended and angry. 

[HK-90210]

I'm really excited about the fact that he has people he doesn't get along with this game. I think one of the things I didn't like about Varric, but hadn't realized it until now, is that fact that he was everyone's best friend. The only person he didn't like was Sebastian, and even then he limited it to just a little light teasing. There's just something disconcerting/unrealisitic about someone who gets along with everyone. We've all got our buttons that get pushed, even if another person is unaware they're doing it.

 

Yeah, I never realized just how little Varric cared for Seb until I actually read the party dialogue. And I don't think it's that he dislikes any individual part of Seb's personality, rather he just dislikes that they all combine to make a man who is such an over-the-top goody-two-shoes. All the other party members have character flaws that Varric can understand and deal with. Isabela's got her promiscuity. Anders has his crusade and Justice issues. Even Hawke is the center of a hurricane, the wheel upon which chaos and destruction turn. But Sebastian's only real character flaw is an indecisive streak. Other than that, he's as clean as can be, especially for a world like Dragon Age, where everyone's got a problem. To Varric, a guy so used to everyone having that kind of flaw, Sebastian comes out of left field as a very boring.

 

After Sebastian put his foot down and demanded Anders' execution, I always imagine Varric going "Damn, Choir Boy. You CAN be interesting.". I think, deep down, that is the first thing Sebastian did that genuinely impressed Varric.

[Drasanil]

Not sure what the english language antonym of "Thick skinned" is, glass skinned?

 

"Thin-skinned"  

 

Glass skinned, lol, how did you even come up with that?

[TheLastArchivist]

Varric's excessively casual approach can sometimes make him seem superficial and/or callous, as if he was used to take other people's matters lightly.

 

His lightheartedness has once or twice emerged at the wrong moment and made me very angry. But deep down, I know he's a serious guy. Whenever he had to stand by my Hawke, he did so. And when things got downright ugly, he would drop his casual manner and show his true nature.

 

Still, I have mixed feelings about him...