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#226
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I'm confused as to how they don't?

 

They are allowed to vote. Check

 

They are allowed to work. Check.

 

They are provided the same protection provided all citizens in the United States. Check.

 

It is illegal to discriminate against them for work. Check.

 

All rights that are provided to every other citizen in the USA is provided to them.  Check.

 

The only thing I can think of that might possibly not fit that definition is not being allowed to go into a restroom of their choice dependent upon location. Which falls back under moving to a state that more adequately provides for a chosen lifestyle.

 

Anything else is personal discrimination/biases.

After seeing this I am so glad i live in the Great White north.

 

I invite all people of colour to imigrate to Canada, we are far from perfect but its a place I'm sure you will feel welcome in.

 

It blows my mind how many police shoots have envoled young innocent black men this past summer and given all those shootings we don't see police killing young innocent white men and people in the states think equality has been reached?


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Laws still have inequalities like not being able to marry (non-hetero couples) etc. But the biggest problem is in practice: society still enforces gender roles and other roles which discriminate people. Women's euro is still not full euro, men are selected in higher job positions just cause their gender etc. There is still long way to equality and I believe it can be never be achieved since humans aren't perfect.

Regarding marriage, that is something that can be achieved by moving to a different state.

 

The other things though are definitely societal and locational. I agree entirely that equality does not exist in society currently, however my argument is that legally speaking the laws have provided every opportunity for it to work it's way towards that. Which falls under the category of rights.

 

Anything else is societal and differing from person to person.

 

But yeah. I'm done for now. It really isn't the place for discussion.



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I definitlely agree with the point about the attractiveness of the female characters. There was even a post written by a developer that they wanted to give the characters "flaws" and "imperfections". I think they have overdone it with the female characters. And forgot to do it with some male characters.I don't see Cullen or Dorian having  any of this "imperfections". They both look like models, while not a single female character is conventional attractive. (most are unattractive in my opinion). Just look at cassandra and cullen (both are returning characters and li's for straight people'). Dawn of the Seeker- DA2- DAI-.> she became less attractive with every appearance. Cullen on the other hand became prettier and prettier with every game and looks now like a supermodel.


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#229
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*reads you tube comments*

             

>_> .....

 

*has to lye down for 5 hours*

 

Oh God no, never read youtube comments. It's like when they open the ark of the covenant, if you don't close your eyes your face melts off. 


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After seeing this I am so glad i live in the Great White north.

I invite all people of colour to imigrate to Canada, we are far from perfect but its a place I'm sure you will feel welcome in.

It blows my mind how many police shoots have envoled young innocent black men this past summer and given all those shootings we don't see police killing young innocent white men and people in the states think equality have been reached?

A) Canada represent!

B ) hypocrite!! This is not on topic!!! ;)

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Ailith Tycane

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Regarding marriage, that is something that can be achieved by moving to a different state.

 

The other things though are definitely societal and locational. I agree entirely that equality does not exist in society currently, however my argument is that legally speaking the laws have provided every opportunity for it to work it's way towards that. Which falls under the category of rights.

 

Anything else is societal and differing from person to person.

 

But yeah. I'm done for now. It really isn't the place for discussion.

 

I swear, everything you say makes me just...

 

tumblr_mt0mwgppQP1sckuono5_500.jpg

 

I do wanna point out that the majority of the people in here are awesome and realize how full of poop that video is and other videos like it, and you all are awesome for not being tools.

 

Spoiler


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I wonder if we'll ever see a "White Josephine" mod. I know it's Frostbite, but where there's a will there's a way.



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I wonder if we'll ever see a "White Josephine" mod. I know it's Frostbite, but where there's a will there's a way.

If there's any way to modify textures, I imagine we will. Unfortunately. I feel like her skin color is just about the only reason she isn't considered "conventionally attractive" :rolleyes:



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I wonder if we'll ever see a "White Josephine" mod. I know it's Frostbite, but where there's a will there's a way.


Why would you want to?

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Wait, what?  I'm supposed to feel persecuted now?

:lol:

Exactly what I thought. I must not be a real man, since I can't for the heck for it detect any feeling of being persecuted in myself. Perhaps I should visit a psychologist... perhaps I would also be cured of the unmanly habit of playing female protagonists.



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I swear, everything you say makes me just...

 

(pic)

 

And yet I have not heard any rational arguments from you aside from pictures showing disgust? That is hardly a mature response. You are free to disagree with me, but simply implying that someone's argument is not even worth your time shows blatant discrimination against a societal view simply because it differs from your own. You can disagree, but feel free to do so in a mature manner. Or simply, as I'm going to do now, ignore the person.



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And yet I have not heard any rational arguments from you aside from pictures showing disgust? That is hardly a mature response. You are free to disagree with me, but simply implying that someone's argument is not even worth your time shows blatant discrimination against a societal view simply because it differs from your own. You can disagree, but feel free to do so in a mature manner. Or simply, as I'm going to do now, ignore the person.

 

You walked right into this one, I don't even feel bad anymore. 

 

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I will say this however, coming from one privileged person to another (Don't even pretend you're not) it's not that hard to figure out that other people from different minorities have a harder time in life than you do for multiple reasons, and what those reasons are (Race, income, disability, sexual orientation, etc). It's also not their responsibility to educate you on why that is. You have an almost infinite amount of information and knowledge at your disposal, so figure it out for yourself and don't demand that people of color or other minorities explain why they don't have the same rights as you do in our society.



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Within 2 minutes of watching that video it is clear that the maker is a close-minded idiot.

 

Nothing more needs to be said.



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Within 2 minutes of wachting that video it is clear that the maker is a close-minded idiot.

Nothing more needs to be said.


Blasphemy. The chantry wont stand for such talk.
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I definitlely agree with the point about the attractiveness of the female characters. There was even a post written by a developer that they wanted to give the characters "flaws" and "imperfections". I think they have overdone it with the female characters. And forgot to do it with some male characters.I don't see Cullen or Dorian having  any of this "imperfections". They both look like models, while not a single female character is conventional attractive. (most are unattractive in my opinion). Just look at cassandra and cullen (both are returning characters and li's for straight people'). Dawn of the Seeker- DA2- DAI-.> she became less attractive with every appearance. Cullen on the other hand became prettier and prettier with every game and looks now like a supermodel.

 

I have to disagree. My subjective view says that Cassandra now is gorgerous. Cullen was perfect in DA2 cause his flaws, dark undereyes and noodle hair. Now he has still some roughness like scar and stubble but is more boring looking.



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I wonder if we'll ever see a "White Josephine" mod. I know it's Frostbite, but where there's a will there's a way.

 

 

Glad I dont mod.  Ugh! bleh, most mods I prefer staying away from.  That is one of those that I stay away from.  The other is making lesbians or gays straight.


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#242
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Wait, what?  I'm supposed to feel persecuted now?

Yeah being the dominate sex of the dominate race of the dominate species, living in the dominate culture in all of known existence, is pretty hard sometimes.  I know I struggle with it.


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You walked right into this one, I don't even feel bad anymore. 
 
tumblr_m3vuky0cVL1r6s561o1_500.png
 
I will say this however, coming from one privileged person to another (Don't even pretend you;re not) it's not that hard to figure out that other people from different minorities have a harder time in life than you do for multiple reasons, and what those reasons are (Race, income, disability, sexual orientation, etc). It's also not their responsibility to educate you on why that is. You have an almost infinite amount of information and knowledge at your disposal, so figure it out for yourself and don;t demand that people of color or other minorities explain why they don't have the same rights as you do in our society.

While I don't agree with him, you know you can be banner for pic spammig right?
Is it really worth?

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I wonder if we'll ever see a "White Josephine" mod. I know it's Frostbite, but where there's a will there's a way.

 

I wonder if there will be a mod to fix her overbite. 

 

 

While I don't agree with him, you know you can be banner for pic spammig right?
Is it really worth?

 

I don't give a ****, the game comes out in two weeks...People who have never been told no in their lives deserve to get poked fun at sometimes, It's good for them. 



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Shes helping the thread to get locked.  :D


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I wonder if there will be a mod to fix her overbite. 
 
 


 
I don't give a ****, the game comes out in two weeks...People who have never been told no in their lives deserve to get poked fun at sometimes, It's good for them.

  

Shes helping the thread to get locked.  :D


You Can actually make fun with them with words. I do this all The time :whistle:.
Fair enough though.
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#247
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The absolute state of this ****ing thread.


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#248
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Yeah being the dominate sex of the dominate race of the dominate species, living in the dominate culture in all of known existence, is pretty hard sometimes.  I know I struggle with it.

LMAO



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The absolute state of this ****ing thread.

 

It couldn't have gone anywhere good, everyone should see that, lol.



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Trans people have little to no legal protection against discrimination in...basically every field of life: education, employment, housing, healthcare, etc. Many states will not even allow them to legally change their gender easily. They are also not protected in the criminal justice system. We are laughing because your argument is so absurd. Trans folk have made a lot of legal and societal gains, but they lack so many of the protections cis people have. Here's an article I found quickly by googling( give it a look. http://www.vocativ.c...sgender-rights/

They are not the only group that lacks rights in the US, but one of the most vulnerable, so it's why I brought them up.
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