Aller au contenu

Photo

Bioware and Proactive PCism; Women in Dragon Age Inquisition


  • Ce sujet est fermé Ce sujet est fermé
255 réponses à ce sujet

#126
Han Shot First

Han Shot First
  • Members
  • 21 206 messages

I don't see it as Sexist Us  Males are visual creatures 

 

It is sexist/homophobic if you use a slur for lesbians in your criticism.

 

It is one thing to say "I'm not really into short hair," and quite another to say "I don't like d*ke hair."


  • Who Knows, veeia et Tex aiment ceci

#127
Who Knows

Who Knows
  • Members
  • 1 328 messages

Yup. Definitely needs brozac.


  • Semyaza82 et Gothfather aiment ceci

#128
WardenSoul

WardenSoul
  • Members
  • 206 messages

This is just typical of the "Woe is me straight men are so hard done by," attitude.

Straight women have 4 options (IB, Cullen, blackwall and solas)

Every one else gets 2, Straight men, gay men, gay women.

Yes women get more but who cares, its not unfair. Its just unequal and unqual =/= unfair. Players on a sports team don't get paid the same amount of money its unequal but it sure is fair.

The video is claiming its proactive PCism or some accidental or deliberate agenda but the writers of bioware to punish men. Thats what where the critique is coming from. Its BS men are not being punished.

Oh please. Turn the tables and women would be complaining that they can only romance 2 people but men can romance 4.

I dont care how many romance options we have as long as theyre good romances, but its not wrong for male gamers to be disappointed. And sure. Like you said. Some athletes get paid more than others. Cuz theyre better. And thats fair. Does that mean women are better than men? That they get more LI's I mean.
  • 9TailsFox aime ceci

#129
Pinkcarnation09

Pinkcarnation09
  • Members
  • 42 messages
I just wish everyone had equal options for the sake of everyone shutting up about it
  • Nevara, Who Knows, veeia et 1 autre aiment ceci

#130
9TailsFox

9TailsFox
  • Members
  • 3 715 messages

This is just typical of the "Woe is me straight men are so hard done by," attitude.

 

Straight women have 4 options (IB, Cullen, blackwall and solas)

 

Every one else gets 2, Straight men, gay men, gay women.

 

Yes women get more but who cares, its not unfair. Its just unequal and unqual =/= unfair. Players on a sports team don't get paid the same amount of money its unequal but it sure is fair.

 

The video is claiming its proactive PCism or some accidental or deliberate agenda but the writers of bioware to punish men. Thats where the critique is coming from. Its BS men are not being punished.

So why all the cry from females in ME3 because they have only 1 romance, if it's fine? + Garrus but only if you romanced him ME2.



#131
WardenSoul

WardenSoul
  • Members
  • 206 messages
Disregard that last post actually. Gonna open a whole other can of worms lol

#132
Osena109

Osena109
  • Members
  • 2 557 messages

It is sexist/homophobic if you use a slur for lesbians in your criticism.

I disagree  i have said nothing about homosexuals or lesbians so its not sexist you can't help who you are attracted to my self am attracted to dark haired women  with shapely bodies 



#133
veeia

veeia
  • Members
  • 4 986 messages
Lesbians (who again only have 2 options and are women) are complaining about it. Politely. With excitement for the options they do have. With some sadness for the options they can't have, but without making videos like this. As are the majority of straight men, I suspect. Saying this guy is an ass doesn't mean all men who don't find Cass hot are asses. If the label doesn't fit you, don't wear it. :)
  • Semyaza82, SurelyForth, Grieving Natashina et 2 autres aiment ceci

#134
Pinkcarnation09

Pinkcarnation09
  • Members
  • 42 messages
Also I am female but prefer to play as men so I can understand the initial disappointment. But then I got over it cuz these games are not a bloody dating sim.

#135
Oloos

Oloos
  • Members
  • 175 messages

Well, i think the "problem" here (if there is really one) is that the characters of Inquistion feels "real". So as any real person, they have defaults and then, appeal to different tastes.

 

I tend to think the little defaults are what makes a women even more attractive. Apparently some want cartoon-perfect characters. Well, too bad for them. 

 

As for myself, i love how Scribbles and Sera looks and then, am really happy. :P


  • Panda aime ceci

#136
Gothfather

Gothfather
  • Members
  • 1 418 messages

Oh please. Turn the tables and women would be complaining that they can only romance 2 people but men can romance 4.

I dont care how many romance options we have as long as theyre good romances, but its not wrong for male gamers to be disappointed. And sure. Like you said. Some athletes get paid more than others. Cuz theyre better. And thats fair. Does that mean women are better than men? That they get more LI's I mean.

 

 

So why all the cry from females in ME3 because they have only 1 romance, if it's fine? + Garrus but only if you romanced him ME2.

 

Whats intresting is that the video hardly touches on the number of romances women get to men but rather claims that romance options for men are OBJECTIVELY not subjectively but objectively ugly. Claims some kind of agenda on bioware's writers, eitehr deliberate or accidental. it uses terms like Dike hair in the video.

 

Why are you trying to turn this conversation around and say its just claiming women got preferential treatment because they got 4 love intrests? Because that isn't what the video claims.

 

So are you speaking because of malice or is it because you are ignorant of the actual topic at hand?



#137
9TailsFox

9TailsFox
  • Members
  • 3 715 messages

Also I am female but prefer to play as men so I can understand the initial disappointment. But then I got over it cuz these games are not a bloody dating sim.

Yes it is. And the best.

dragon_age_dating_sim_by_rpgirl-d317f4y.



#138
Nevara

Nevara
  • Members
  • 641 messages

Let's not forget that while women have a total of four heterosexual romances, there are also the racegates that come into play.  Which does close down options as well.  Just a friendly aside on balance.

Second, let's not forget the short shaft for women a la ME3 if you didn't romance Garrus in ME2 and blew up Kaidan on Virmire, you got no hetero romances (barring the fling with Vega with the Citadel DLC).  Sure I could chalk up it to choice and consequence, but that's hardly balanced, nu?



#139
BloodyTalon

BloodyTalon
  • Members
  • 2 342 messages

These posts always happen in the morning, at-least this one is on topic sort of.

But  everyone has a view and if I want super model looks I would be playing different games, looks isn't everything.



#140
The Elder King

The Elder King
  • Members
  • 19 630 messages

So why all the cry from females in ME3 because they have only 1 romance, if it's fine? + Garrus but only if you romanced him ME2.


They actually have no Romance options if Kaidan is dead and Garrus isn't romanceable. With another LI dying and The other cheating and leaving you. That was The main problem. Based on The choices made in the previous games you might Not have an option, while the others could.
  • Estelindis et Nevara aiment ceci

#141
wolfhowwl

wolfhowwl
  • Members
  • 3 727 messages

These posts always happen in the morning, at-least this one is on topic sort of.

But  everyone has a view and if I want super model looks I would be playing different games, looks isn't everything.

 

When the mod's away, the posters will play!


  • The Elder King et BloodyTalon aiment ceci

#142
SomeoneStoleMyName

SomeoneStoleMyName
  • Members
  • 2 481 messages

That's because male gamers are under attack by the gaming industry. Why do you think GamerGate is so big?

 

Personally, I don't find either of the current heterosexual male romances attractive in the least, but I'm going to give Josephine a chance. That being said, the fact that people constantly tout our supposed 'make privilege' is a pretty obvious 'shut up, you don't deserve an opinion'.

 

To which I say no, I'm allowed my opinion and have no obligation to adhere to your SJW bigotry.

lol... GamerGate. Real men are not so insecure about themselves as to feel threatened by all this.

 

Any straight male who thinks more fairness and equality in genders and sexuality depicted in games is a "threat to their straight male dominance" are insecure, weak and feeble-minded people looking for a cause to unleash their hate on. Just my opinion. 

As for opinions, I still think that Josephine looks average and Sera ugly. But claiming that this is "objective/universal" beauty and that straight male gamers are "under attack" is silly. 

I commend Bioware for trying something new. I dislike it (from a shallow and aesthetic viewpoint), but I respect it (from a ideological viewpoint). 


  • Semyaza82, Estelindis, MoogleNut et 5 autres aiment ceci

#143
Adanu

Adanu
  • Members
  • 1 400 messages

This is just typical of the "Woe is me straight men are so hard done by," attitude.

 

Straight women have 4 options (IB, Cullen, blackwall and solas)

 

Every one else gets 2, Straight men, gay men, gay women.

 

Yes women get more but who cares, its not unfair. Its just unequal and unqual =/= unfair. Players on a sports team don't get paid the same amount of money its unequal but it sure is fair.

 

The video is claiming its proactive PCism or some accidental or deliberate agenda but the writers of bioware to punish men. Thats where the critique is coming from. Its BS men are not being punished.

 

In other words, men aren't allowed to feel slighted or angry because we've been the ones catered to in the past, completely ignoring the why for that catering?

 

Therefore, no one should care about our suffering?

 

Yeah, that's not offensive and bigoted in the least. But then, plenty of SJWs around here would agree with your bigotry.


  • 9TailsFox aime ceci

#144
WardenSoul

WardenSoul
  • Members
  • 206 messages

Whats intresting is that the video hardly touches on the number of romances women get to men but rather claims that romance options for men are OBJECTIVELY not subjectively but objectively ugly. Claims some kind of agenda on bioware's writers, eitehr deliberate or accidental. it uses terms like Dike hair in the video.

Why are you trying to turn this conversation around and say its just claiming women got preferential treatment because they got 4 love intrests? Because that isn't what the video claims.

So are you speaking because of malice or is it because you are ignorant of the actual topic at hand?


Didnt watch the video. Nor do I care to. Guy sounds like a c***. I was responding to your post which was in response to someone elses. Which had to do with number of love interests.

#145
9TailsFox

9TailsFox
  • Members
  • 3 715 messages

Whats intresting is that the video hardly touches on the number of romances women get to men but rather claims that romance options for men are OBJECTIVELY not subjectively but objectively ugly. Claims some kind of agenda on bioware's writers, eitehr deliberate or accidental. it uses terms like Dike hair in the video.

 

Why are you trying to turn this conversation around and say its just claiming women got preferential treatment because they got 4 love intrests? Because that isn't what the video claims.

 

So are you speaking because of malice or is it because you are ignorant of the actual topic at hand?

Because I stopped watching video after he started talking Josephine is ugly because she have mole on her face :wacko: Cassandra looking like Dante is last problem real problem is Cass is only female companion romancable by male.



#146
Adanu

Adanu
  • Members
  • 1 400 messages

lol... GamerGate. Real men are not so insecure about themselves as to feel threatened by all this.

 

Any straight male who thinks more fairness and equality in genders and sexuality depicted in games is a "threat to their straight male dominance" are insecure, weak and feeble-minded people looking for a cause to unleash their hate on. Just my opinion. 

As for opinions, I still think that Josephine looks average and Sera ugly. But claiming that this is "objective/universal" beauty and that straight male gamers are "under attack" is silly. 

I commend Bioware for trying something new. I dislike it (from a shallow and aesthetic viewpoint), but I respect it (from a ideological viewpoint). 

 

And who decides what 'real men' are? You?



#147
The Elder King

The Elder King
  • Members
  • 19 630 messages

When the mod's away, the posters will play!


Nice reference ;).

#148
The Elder King

The Elder King
  • Members
  • 19 630 messages

Because I stopped watching video after he started talking Josephine is ugly because she have mole on her face :wacko: Cassandra looking like Dante is last problem real problem is Cass is only female companion romancable by male.

That was Dante :whistle:?
She doesn't. Even less so in her final appearance.

#149
Ailith Tycane

Ailith Tycane
  • Members
  • 2 422 messages

Actually it's about ethics in gaming journalism. 


  • SurelyForth aime ceci

#150
Tamyn

Tamyn
  • Members
  • 2 969 messages

To be fair, every woman, and man for that matter, in DAI has a 'perfect' body. On account of seemingly only having one body type per race [IB being the exception], so that's hardly a valid anything. You'll probably find 80 year olds with swimsuit ready 20 somethings' bodies.

 

That old priestess lady in the recent stream has the bombshell body and sex kitten walk. :lol:

 

http://www.escapistm...148-Dragon-Aged

 

Spoiler

  • Lord Bolton et WikipediaBrown aiment ceci