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#51
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DDE and DE have the same content one is digital the other physical there is no confusion just different names for the same thing, if i use the pruduct code from a physical edition of the DE I could get all the content for the game via Origin with out installing the DVD. 

 

Also i'll point out you get free shipping and release day delivery on most pre orders of the physical game. 



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DDE and DE have the same content one is digital the other physical there is no confusion just different names for the same thing, if i use the pruduct code from a physical edition of the DE I could get all the content for the game via Origin with out installing the DVD. 
 
Also i'll point out you get free shipping and release day delivery on most pre orders of the physical game.

 
Look, I don't know what else to tell you. Here's a quote from a Forbes' article on digital distribution that reinforces what I said earlier:
 

First off, the retailer puts pressure on publishers to keep prices on digital platforms as high (or nearly as high) as they are at retail.

If publishers don’t, they face the risk of losing much needed shelf-space that they currently rely on for the majority of their sales. And they’re forced to do this even as GameStop places used versions of the same games for $5 less just a couple feet away.


And here's the article itself:

Why Digital Distribution Is The Future And GameStop Is Not: Taking The Long View On Used Games

Regardless of this, please bear in mind you still have far more consumer choice than people in most countries do.



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I'd like the same choices as a console gamer in my country at the very least, and keeping prices the same or near to retail prices would mean Origin sold the game without the 25% mark up it has or am I confusing that?  



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I'd like the same choices as a console gamer in my country at the very least, and keeping prices the same or near to retail prices would mean Origin sold the game without the 25% mark up it has or am I confusing that?  

 

You are confusing that, because the version that is being sold by the retail stores isn't a digital copy...



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DDE and DE have the same content one is digital the other physical there is no confusion just different names for the same thing, if i use the pruduct code from a physical edition of the DE I could get all the content for the game via Origin with out installing the DVD. 

 

Also i'll point out you get free shipping and release day delivery on most pre orders of the physical game. 

 

EA has never used the term "digital" on a physical disc. The distinction between physical and digital pertains to how you purchased the game. Physical = a disc with a CD key from a shop. Digital = purchase a CD key.

 

Every EA game can be downloaded from Origin whether you purchased it physically or not, therefore using the word digital to describe a physical disc is redundant. Everything is technically 1s and 0s, i.e. digital.

 

Edit: also console gamers do not get to re-download their games if they bought a disc. If they break their disc, they are screwed.



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If i get a disc that comes with a CD key I can input that CD key and download the same content on origin as if i ordered the game from origin only buying a disc with a CD key is cheaper. Please note your download code will be emailed to you near release date ... now i may be wrong but isn't that a code to use on origin to download the game? 

 

Xbox and PS users can buy either from retail outlets or online sources both Standard or Deluxe versions of the game while PC users can only get the standard edition outside of Origin.  

 

The Origin price for the standard edition is 25% more expensive then physical pricing which gives the same content via inputting a CD-Key on Origin, i'm not sure how much clearer this point can be made but the DE would cost £10 less then the DDE from comparing how all other pricing is done.

 

You get release day delivery at no cost in most cases for the SD version so there is no extra convince apart from pre-loading they have the same content and you would be able to use both on the same day. 



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the DDE cost me US $70 which is kind of high imo. I mean the PS4 DE cost much less. 



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If i get a disc that comes with a CD key I can input that CD key and download the same content on origin as if i ordered the game from origin only buying a disc with a CD key is cheaper. Please note your download code will be emailed to you near release date ... now i may be wrong but isn't that a code to use on origin to download the game? 

 

Xbox and PS users can buy either from retail outlets or online sources both Standard or Deluxe versions of the game while PC users can only get the standard edition outside of Origin.  

 

The Origin price for the standard edition is 25% more expensive then physical pricing which gives the same content via inputting a CD-Key on Origin, i'm not sure how much clearer this point can be made but the DE would cost £10 less then the DDE from comparing how all other pricing is done.

 

You get release day delivery at no cost in most cases for the SD version so there is no extra convince apart from pre-loading they have the same content and you would be able to use both on the same day. 

 

Everyone who preorders gets the flames of the inquisition pack... The download code they're going to email you is for those dlc weapons.  You won't get your CD key until DAI shows up in the mail.

 

I still fail to understand this... If you know that you can buy the boxed version of the game cheaper than what EA wants for the digital version, why are you complaining?  Why is it required of you to get the digital version of the game?



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If i get a disc that comes with a CD key I can input that CD key and download the same content on origin as if i ordered the game from origin only buying a disc with a CD key is cheaper. Please note your download code will be emailed to you near release date ... now i may be wrong but isn't that a code to use on origin to download the game? 

 

Xbox and PS users can buy either from retail outlets or online sources both Standard or Deluxe versions of the game while PC users can only get the standard edition outside of Origin.  

 

The Origin price for the standard edition is 25% more expensive then physical pricing which gives the same content via inputting a CD-Key on Origin, i'm not sure how much clearer this point can be made but the DE would cost £10 less then the DDE from comparing how all other pricing is done.

 

You get release day delivery at no cost in most cases for the SD version so there is no extra convince apart from pre-loading they have the same content and you would be able to use both on the same day. 

 

It wouldn't have helped if you had the option to buy the physical version of the DE. Game have exclusivity on the DE and they are charging £60 for the Xbox One version. I can get that £1.50 cheaper on digital download while I'd pay £10 more to buy the standard edition on digital download. 

 

I think that the reason that Game got the DE is because they agreed to sell it at a comparable price to the Digital Download.

 

It's a rip off I know but it's how they have priced it. 



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Everyone who preorders gets the flames of the inquisition pack... The download code they're going to email you is for those dlc weapons.  You won't get your CD key until DAI shows up in the mail.

 

I still fail to understand this... If you know that you can buy the boxed version of the game cheaper than what EA wants for the digital version, why are you complaining?  Why is it required of you to get the digital version of the game?

 

He/she wants the DE which he/she can't get the physical edition of.



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It's either buy from Origin at 20-25% more then retail would have sold it or not at all, that is not a taxing problem it is called running a monopoly. 

 

OK, this bothers me. Be bummed out about pricing all you want - don't buy it due to pricing, that's your prerogative and likely the best way to make your case, but this notion that it's an abuse of someone to set price points for their products is silly. EA doesn't control all the games in the world. A monopoly is when you control an industry, not a product. 

 

I mean, DA:I is one niche software product. It's not an industry. If EA owned ALL the world's games and only sold them through Origin, that would be a monopoly perhaps. You can't really have a monopoly on one branded product - or rather you can and it's perfectly fine, and not considered a problem. Many products are sold through multiple retailers, but there's no reason why it's an economic necessity or consumer right. Burger King has a monopoly on whoppers for instance, and that's perfectly fine, as long as it's not the only place allowed to serve food. If it was most beneficial to EA to sell games only through Origin and nowhere else, they certainly could and there would be no ethical economic quandry with that.

 

At any rate, likely what is happening is retailers are intentionally discounting physical copies in deals they have brokered with Bioware/EA, whereas for PC digital there is no such broker. The retailers are brokering these deals to stay relevant (and in business) and the game companies are agreeing to them so that their games don't somehow get forgotten. Different publishers obviously have different views on methods of distribution. 

 

 

Because there isn't a physical DE for PC available in Europe, only the totally overpriced version on Origin.

 

Does the digital edition for PC have price parity with digital editions for consoles? 


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Does the digital edition for PC have price parity with digital editions for consoles? 

 

Yeah the Xbox One DE version is £60 from Game the only shop allowed to sell it in the UK.

 

 

http://www.game.co.u...-at-game-293143

 

 

Edit RTFQ 

 

Without EA Access the digital DE on Xbox One is £64.99 £58.49 with Access.



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Console games are on average £10 more then PC games in the UK for what ever reason, PC PS3 and XBox 360 are the same price £39.99  and PS4 and XBONE is £44.99 down from 49.99 these prices apply at game and argos. 

 

Amazon.co.uk all SD editions are £39.00 - 39.85 I believe game is the only place in the UK selling DE, PS3 and 360 prices are 54.99 and XBONE and PS4 are 59.99, now on amazon.com SD - DE cost only 10 units of currency more and is available on all platforms.

 

I've not looked at PS  Digital download pricing as i can't find them on the net, on Xbox Store SD is £54.99 and DE is £64.99 which again is 10 units.

 

Now Xbox Store may not be the cheapest option as SD and DE is available for less at game but the consumer has a choice of where they can buy the XBox DE and SD versions, PC users have no choice for DE/DDE outside the USA and the price jump in the UK to go from SD to DDE is a 50% mark up in price unlike on other platforms. 

 

So basically on PC from SD - DDE its a 50% price rise, on Xbox (and i'll assume PS) its 20-25% rise in price. 



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I'm still cracking up that someone told you to post this question here.

That's laughable.

1. The devs are not usually on these boards all that often.
2. The devs who are on more frequently haven't been on in weeks due to crunch.
3. The devs who are on more frequently are not key decision makers for EA's international pricing policies.

This venue doesn't just fall on deaf ears... it falls on deaf ears of EA employees who have no hands and aren't present anyway. OP, are you sure customer support told you to go to the BIOWARE forums? If so, I would say the forums told you to go back to EA support. Because me, a random Joe Blow who doesn't work at Bioware, is going to be the highest level of authrotiy to respond to your request. Which is to say, someone with zero authority at all.
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Yeah, its this "nextgen" console gimmick thats jacked up the price of new Digital PC games from the usual £29.99-£34.99 up to £49.99.

 

Not every publisher is doing this though.

 

Civ:Beyond Earth is the usual £29.99 price digitial

New Borderlands is the usual £29.99 digital too.



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Console games are on average £10 more then PC games in the UK for what ever reason, PC PS3 and XBox 360 are the same price £39.99  and PS4 and XBONE is £44.99 down from 49.99 these prices apply at game and argos. 

 

 

I found parts of your post about pricing hard to follow, due to acronyms and sentence structure, sorry.

 

It sounds like - not in Britain, to be clear, this is just based on what I've read on threads like these - that DA:I is not the only PC game that is adapting more to price parity with consoles. That this is a rising trend. It also sounds like, oddly, with DA:I this impacts the Deluxe edition primarily and not the Standard edition, where more options exist. Quite interesting. 

 

I think companies have a right to price things as they like, and I also see no reason why PC games should be less (if they historically were, I understand the frustration, but they weren't less in the 90s when I was a kid and first bought them in America; not sure how long this trend of "less" in Britain has gone on) than the same game on console or why digital editions should be less or the same price as standard editions. So I guess I don't get the fuss. 

 

Yeah, its this "nextgen" console gimmick thats jacked up the price of new Digital PC games from the usual £29.99-£34.99 up to £49.99.

 

Not every publisher is doing this though.

 

Civ:Beyond Earth is the usual £29.99 price digitial

New Borderlands is the usual £29.99 digital too.

 

New Borderlands is a last-gen game, and Civ is not on consoles (if there's one genre I've never seen work on console, it's RTS like Civ), is it? So they aren't really good comparisons if you think next-gen is what's influencing price changes overall. 



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What is it if I pay for it with BitCoin?

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Its more the price difference on PC vs that on other platforms for upgrading from the standard edition to the DE/DDE Xbox its 20-25% more in price but on PC its 50%, and the lack of a DE for PC at other retails besides Origin while platforms have more options. 



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I myself don't like that in the UK you can only get the DDE from Origin and clearly Origin is marking prices up higher then other UK retailers, in the USA you can get the DDE from multiple sources which leads to competitive pricing or similar pricing on like for like items. 

 

Digital download always seems more expensive even  on Steam for many games.

I shop around for my digital downloads and always get them cheaper then Steam or Origin prices,as to deluxe edition,I myself live in UK and have pre-ordered the CE version  for  the PC  from Gamestop.co.uk so that comes with virtually everything.

 

I'll say it depends on the game however  since some games you  go to  a lot of sites for good pricing,others  like DDE you are limited on options,no idea where the fault lies.



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What is it if I pay for it with BitCoin?


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why not just buy the game once it's been reduced in price heck Origins is now like 9 pounds or something



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You can get the digital version for the same or less than the physical version in the UK... just not from Origin, bizarrely.

 

Codora.co.uk has it for £35 (though I can't personally vouch for them as I haven't used them before). Key resellers have it for ~£30 but using them is a bit of a grey area.



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Once again... Seems like some Europeans are unaware of the whole VAT tax thing.   Your prices include your 18%-25% VAT taxes required by your governments.   The US prices do not have this.    You can't do a straight conversion of USD conversion rate.    Our US prices don't include your taxes.    Our sales tax is generated at the point of sale based on what state we live in and is tacked on during the purchase.    Yours is included in your rate.  

 

Add in your countries VAT tax rate and any other local taxes to the USD conversion and you will see the price is nearly identical.   In the US, we typically will have an addition 6-9% increase in the listed price at the time of checkout depending on our state.

 

The retail prices he quotes include VAT as well. I'm an American who lives in the UK and I've noticed Steam, Amazon, GMG, etc tend to include the VAT such that the retail price is basically the US one (so they actually are getting less money from it.)

 

Origin definitely charges more than elsewhere, though this may be because they're doing the opposite and adding the VAT to the existing price, rather than eating that cost, meaning things cost 20% more on it. Accidental price gouging, if you will.



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I wouldn't say its accidental EA are in the business to make money at the end of the day, but they do risk alienating PC gamers if they keep  limiting our consumer choices and don't offer us the same access as console gamers.

 

I Spoke with EA via live chat the advise they gave me yesterday was to buy the console version of the game which kind of boggles me a little, I'm a PC gamer I spend and keep spending 100's if not 1000's on my PC to have better graphics and freedom then console gamers get and the answer they come up with dumb down my gaming experience lol. 

 

Now i've slept on this and I i'm still unable to get my head around why only PC has no DE outside of the USA, and the comments made via live chat leave me thinking and feeling EA don't care about PC gaming as are telling me get a console if you want a DE or that they think sales out side the USA don't matter.

 

I would like to ask if it was Bio wares intention to give the same gaming experience to all platforms or was there always going to be this gap between what PC gamers and console gamers were going to be able get? 



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Well, ultimately, your complaint is about a physical copy for PC, which is a very outdated distribution method at this point.   Digital sales exceeded physical sales back in 2010 and have been growing exponentially since then.   In 3-4 years, my guess is that you won't find PC physical disks at all. 

 

Its like complaining that the music industry doesn't care about people with CD players anymore.   Its a diminishing outdated tech.   

 

The only "gap" is for those people who don't want to adapt to the changing tech market.  

 

Pretty sure that when the next console version comes out in 5 or 6 years that it will also be mostly downloaded games rather than archaic physical disks.