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I'm not a big Hawke fan, but I can't say I hate the guy.

 

My biggest beef with Hawke is that he feels like someone else's character, never could get into his story like I could the Wardens. The Warden felt much less rigid personality wise. So long story short, I'd gladly sacrifice a thousand Hawkes for a single Warden appearance.


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Please, everyone knows Jedi suck and are equally as wrong as the sith.


Also the way the code is presented the best jedi have to be sociopaths or autistic, which is it's own bumper value can of worms.
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Hwake is  not "mine" as the way warden is, but I still like them (especially the purple!Hwake ;) ) as a character.

 

I look forward to see them and hope to snark/sass the way through dangers. 


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For people who don't see Hawke as their character, try seeing them as your bestfriend or your child. It adds some perception to the whole thing. That's why I love my Hawke so much, I control some of his thought patterns but he's still a character on his own and it's great for me to see him evolve in the Dragon Age world.


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A thousand points if Hawke ends up rescuing the Inquisitor or something.



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A thousand points if Hawke ends up rescuing the Inquisitor or something.

I predict rage on the forums.


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A thousand points if Hawke ends up rescuing the Inquisitor or something.

That's pretty much what I think will happen :)
Hawke will take charge of the party for a limited segment, probably mostly in the Fade, while the Inquisitor is incapacitated.

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The only bad (more annoying than bad) thing I can see in including Hawke is that when the character appears, she/he will just be standing there for at least an hour while I try to painstakingly recreate his/her appearance from DA II.


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For people who don't see Hawke as their character, try seeing them as your bestfriend or your child. It adds some perception to the whole thing. That's why I love my Hawke so much, I control some of his thought patterns but he's still a character on his own and it's great for me to see him evolve in the Dragon Age world.

 

The only thing I want to see Hawke as is another body for me to drop in a shallow grave.


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I strongly suspect that the Hawke hate is more a symptom of him/her not being what the Warden was to us. The Warden was the single most important person in Ferelden and decided enough to change the look and feel of the nation.

 

Hawke was around a lot during important times and the big choices Hawke made ultimately boiled down to whether you fight Orseno before or after fighting your way through the Gallows. In addition, Hawke was selected from a grid of 9 (18 if you count gender) characters, making the face feel like the most personalized experience.

 

Ultimately, Hawke's major failing is being the single commonality in every disappointing or frustrating DAII experience. That being said, Bioware has put a lot of time, effort, and money into redeeming themselves and this universe. I'm still a bit surprised at how far I've come from being ready to wash my hands of the franchise. I figure if Bioware is making the effort we've seen in Inquisition, a friendly/snarky/angry NPC with a customizable past shouldn't be too bad along the way.

 

If anything, this is Hawke's chance to be the anti-Anders* for those who weren't so stoked about the character the first time around.

 

*A small part of me wants Gaider's joke about DAII Anders being Ser Pounce-A-Lot to be revealed as truth.



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I strongly suspect that the Hawke hate is more a symptom of him/her not being what the Warden was to us. The Warden was the single most important person in Ferelden and decided enough to change the look and feel of the nation.

 

Hawke was around a lot during important times and the big choices Hawke made ultimately boiled down to whether you fight Orseno before or after fighting your way through the Gallows. In addition, Hawke was selected from a grid of 9 (18 if you count gender) characters, making the face feel like the most personalized experience.

 

Ultimately, Hawke's major failing is being the single commonality in every disappointing or frustrating DAII experience. That being said, Bioware has put a lot of time, effort, and money into redeeming themselves and this universe. I'm still a bit surprised at how far I've come from being ready to wash my hands of the franchise. I figure if Bioware is making the effort we've seen in Inquisition, a friendly/snarky/angry NPC with a customizable past shouldn't be too bad along the way.

 

If anything, this is Hawke's chance to be the anti-Anders* for those who weren't so stoked about the character the first time around.

 

*A small part of me wants Gaider's joke about DAII Anders being Ser Pounce-A-Lot to be revealed as truth.

I really don't buy into this logic. I actually enjoyed Hawke as a character and his story immensely. Unlike the Warden, Hawke actually had a personality and a voice, which added to the experience significantly. That wasn't my issue with DA2 at all. What was wrong with the game was purely on the gameplay side (lack of environments, step back in terms of combat, abilities, gear, companions, etc.). Had BioWare just maintained the same game design as DAO, but incorporated the story and Hawke the way he was, it would have been a masterpiece.

 

DAO was great and enjoyable, but the Warden was uninteresting due to lacking a voice and a personality. He was nothing more than an empty shell of an avatar I took control of for the sake of seeing other interesting characters (Loghain, Eamon, Alistair, Morrigan, Flemeth, etc.) take the stage. I found this incredibly frustrating as I always felt like an outsider and a sidekick to the large events. With Shepard and Hawke, I was actually at the forefront of these conflicts and my choices were heard through my character's voice. No longer was I ignored due to being a silent protagonist.

 

DAO's story may have been more "epic" and Awakening was certainly amazing. However, my Hawke was a thousand times more compelling and interesting than my Warden. That's just the reality of a character who actually has a voice versus one that doesn't.


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Oh i wish Hawke was a companion
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Oh i wish Hawke was a companion

I have a feeling Hawke would just laugh at the Inquisitor.

 

Hawke: "You want me to be a companion in your Inquisition? Who do you think I am? The Hero of Ferelden? I follow no one."

 

I don't mind seeing Hawke again, but it wouldn't make sense to me if he was a follower. If anything, I would expect Hawke still has companions of his own. I know mine specifically would have Isabela still in the picture at the very least.



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I don't mind seeing Hawke again, but it wouldn't make sense to me if he was a follower. If anything, I would expect Hawke still has companions of his own. I know mine specifically would have Isabela still in the picture at the very least.

 

"Where are we going? How should I know? Do I look like the leader of this merry band of misfits?" -Snarky Hawke.


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I just occurred to me that I chose humor-inclined Hawke in the keep and my first Inquisitor (assuming the reviews are good and I actually play any time soon) will be a no nonsense elf with a chip on his shoulder about humans. 

 

It pleases me that I'll probably kill hawke without even breaking character. 


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I don't know why other people dislikes/hates Hawke, but for me is a matter of Hawke being the head character of a terribly mediocre game. I find laughable that Bioware decided to bring him/her again.


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I have a feeling Hawke would just laugh at the Inquisitor.

 

Hawke: "You want me to be a companion in your Inquisition? Who do you think I am? The Hero of Ferelden? I follow no one."

 

I don't mind seeing Hawke again, but it wouldn't make sense to me if he was a follower. If anything, I would expect Hawke still has companions of his own. I know mine specifically would have Isabela still in the picture at the very least.

Yeah, for someone who couldn't leave his/her home without 3 buddies tagging along, I would imagine he/she  would still have companions haha.



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I don't know why other people dislikes/hates Hawke, but for me is a matter of Hawke being the head character of a terribly mediocre game. I find laughable that Bioware decided to bring him/her again.

Laughable? Whether you enjoyed the game or not, they can't pretend it has no relevance to the series. A lot of the events and characters are key to Inquisition. 


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Dragon Age 2 was basically created with the purpose to set up the events for DA:I. Which in turn makes it relevant to the series, wether you liked the game or not.

 

So long as Hawke doesn't overshadow the Inquisitor with their presence, then I don't have a problem with Hawke appearing again.


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Laughable? Whether you enjoyed the game or not, they can't pretend it has no relevance to the series. A lot of the events and characters are key to Inquisition. 

 

I find laghable that they conceived a game as Inqusition as a sequel to a medciocre game. They claim Dragon Age needs to change to be better. Indeed; Dragon Age 2 was not something to continue. Inquisition should have been a completely independent game; a game ignoring the mediocrity of its last installment.

 

So, yes, Hawke in iquistion is laughable.



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How is Hawke going to look? Just the premade male or female? That would pretty much destroy the continuity



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The only thing I want to see Hawke as is another body for me to drop in a shallow grave.

You're just starting provocation here and you know it.


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I find laghable that they conceived a game as Inqusition as a sequel to a medciocre game. They claim Dragon Age needs to change to be better. Indeed; Dragon Age 2 was not something to continue. Inquisition should have been a completely independent game; a game ignoring the mediocrity of its last installment.

 

So, yes, Hawke in iquistion is laughable.

(Face palm)

 

First of all all the stories of each game are indipendent of each other. The only links eac game has is how the choices in each game effect the world of Thedus. The story line of DAO is done a finish with nothing to add. It was finished in witch hunt. The world and it lore has it's own story which is not held down by each independent story. But each independent story adds on to the story and lore of the world from the books to even da2. Yes, the event Hawke does does effect the world story of thedus. Stop thinking of the story like ME which fallow a series of characters. It not like that. 


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How is Hawke going to look? Just the premade male or female? That would pretty much destroy the continuity

It is basically confirmed that there will be some form of character creator for Hawke.


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For what it's worth, I'm very excited to see Hawke again. I much preferred the story of DA2, though I admit some of the mechanics were clunky.

Origins was fun, but it was just another crusade against pure evil. Some people enjoy that, and that's no problem at all.

 

For me, the themes of DA2--loss, oppression, rebellion and terrorism, (mostly) human conflict--were much more compelling than another bloody dragon.

 

Can't wait to see Hawke make a reappearance.


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