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[Demon Velsper]

I'm making a joke.

 

Do tell us if you feel obliged to make another one, will you?

[Arakat]

By and large I disagree. Sometimes it seems like I'm the only person who picked dialogue tone based on context when playing DA2. She joked with her friends, was diplomatic when she liked or respected the person, and was aggressive when she was pissed off.

Now I have to tell the Keep what my Hawke's personality was.

Umm... complex, human?

Nope. So I guess since my Hawke was annoyed slightly more than anything else (who wouldn't be after the cluster of events in DA2?) I have to say she's "aggressive" and watch as BioWare [probably] makes her into a perpetual jerk.

meh

 

This is a very good point. I guess they could have Hawke say nothing but very generic lines, but that would probably be sort of boring and would defeat the purpose of having Hawke there, and not some random NPC.

 

(Also, thanks for mentioning this. It's a major pet peeve of mine when people act as if they had to pick the same tone in every conversation  )

[Alan Rickman]

Do tell us if you feel obliged to make another one, will you?

 

Sure thing, buddy.

[leaguer of one]

 

9:30 Dragon: Modern day: events of Dragon Age: Origins. The Fifth Blight begins with The Architect attempting to make a Disciple of Urthemiel.

9:30 Dragon: Hawke flees Ferelden and arrives in Kirkwall

9:31 Dragon: Urthemiel is slain by the Grey Wardens at the Battle of Denerim.

9:31 Dragon: events of Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening. The Architect awakens The Mother, who goes insane sending out The Children armies to conquer Ferelden.

 

 

 

9:30 Dragon: Modern day: events of Dragon Age: Origins. The Fifth Blight begins with The Architect attempting to make a Disciple of Urthemiel.

9:30 Dragon: Hawke flees Ferelden and arrives in Kirkwall

9:31 Dragon: Urthemiel is slain by the Grey Wardens at the Battle of Denerim.

9:31 Dragon: events of Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening. The Architect awakens The Mother, who goes insane sending out The Children armies to conquer Ferelden.

 

Again, Anders can't be in 2 places at once. Explain how he can be in Kirkwall and in Fereldin?

[Paul E Dangerously]

Again, Anders can't be in 2 places at once. Explain how he can be in Kirkwall and in Fereldin?

 

You did pay attention to DA2, yes? Hawke arrives in Kirkwall well before the Blight ends. Act 1 takes place after DAO/DAA.

[xkg]

Again, Anders can't be in 2 places at once. Explain how he can be in Kirkwall and in Fereldin?

 

I already did. There are 3 more posts after this one you quoted.

[Mystranna Kelteel]

That isn't strictly The Keep's fault. In the game Hawke had a dominant tone no matter what.

True, and I had my issues with that as well. I'd been nothing but nice and joking with Isabela, but she opened one conversation with "buy me a drink?' and my Hawke autopilots an angry "buy your own drink!"

It's like ... okay, guess i RP this as my Hawke having a bad day? >.>

I totes woulda bought her that drink.

[New Kid]

True, and I had my issues with that as well. I'd been nothing but nice and joking with Isabela, but she opened one conversation with "buy me a drink?' and my Hawke autopilots an angry "buy your own drink!"

It's like ... okay, guess i RP this as my Hawke having a bad day? >.>

I totes woulda bought her that drink.

Yeah I can see why that would be a problem. I never ran into problems like that myself, my Hawke usually cracked jokes so most auto-pilots reflected that.

How do you feel about her going to be on permanent auto-pilot in Inquisition? 

[HK-90210]

Everyone is forgetting the real question here...

 

Spoiler

??? CAN WE ROMANCE OUR HAWKE WITH OUR INQUISITOR ???

 

[Eternal Phoenix]

LOL at that gif.

[naughty99]

 

Everyone is forgetting the real question here...

 

Spoiler

???   CAN WE ROMANCE OUR HAWKE WITH OUR INQUISITOR   ???

 

Can we import our character gen data from DA2?

 

[Revan Reborn]

For those of you so opposed to the option to killing Hawke, what do you suppose I should do in this playthrough?

 

Hawke was a sarcastic anarchist sociopath blood-mage, who full supported her boyfriend Anders blowing up a Chantry? My Inquisitor, in contrast, is a humorless warrior devout andrastian, who believes in authority and harsh measures against the lawless. These two will not get along. It would be very out of character for either of them to like the other, or even respect the other, and most likely they both want to kill the other.

It really doesn't matter what kind of character your Hawke was. She is still the Champion of Kirkwall and is a hero to the people. Regardless of her questionable activities, she still is very relevant and crucial in bringing an end to the Mage-Templar War, for better or for worse.

 

Me too! I for one loved all my Hawkes. I'm more attached to them than my Wardens, blasphemy I know. I think this would be a really cool idea. Yeah, I'm still gonna love my Inquisitor, but I too feel like Hawke's story isn't quite done yet. DA2 was really just setting up the events for DA:I. 

Exactly. Many don't realize that the events of DAI really start in DA2. This is where the Inquisition unofficially begins and where Cassandra, Varric, Leliana, Cullen, etc. all come together to tackle a new threat. Hawke is still very much a part of this story as he was there at the beginning of the Templar-Mage war, which is still in full swing during the time of DAI.

 

I'd rather Hawke be playable than not, just because I want to be able to continue to shape/control her character. This is why I don't want to see my Warden either---at least Hawke had dominant personality tones, how on earth am I to expect them to know what my Warden was like?

This is the benefit to having a voiced protagonist rather than one that isn't. Much like Shepard, we were able to build Hawke to be believable and have an identity based on our choices. This was not the case with the Warden, as he/she was merely an avatar representing ourselves in the game, rather than being a living individual engaging with others in the world. From a gameplay perspective, the Warden was fine, but from a storytelling perspective? There is no way that BioWare could effectively bring the Warden into a story due to lacking significant personality components.

 

From a storytelling perspective, I definitely enjoyed my Hawke more than my Warden-Commander. I felt like my Hawke was actually a part of the world, and that my choices were not only defining him, but others around him. Whereas my Warden always came across as a disconnected avatar I was embodying. I never felt that the Warden was truly a part of the world and could really engage with it. Especially for scenes of friendship or romance, it just wasn't believable. I enjoyed playing as the Warden in DAO, especially in Awakening, but it just wasn't as compelling as becoming Shepard or Hawke.

 

I actually wouldn't want my Hawke to be a secret companion personally because he is not a follower. Perhaps he can be somewhat of an honorary member of the Inquisition, but he is an equal to the Inquisitor much like the Warden-Commander would be. To try and overlap those personalities just would be strange and wouldn't make sense from my perspective. Being able to play as Hawke and aid the Inquisition in its goal is much more in line with how he would probably act.

[Ranadiel Marius]

Can we import our character gen data from DA2?

Nope.

[frylock23]

Ewwww ... that means if I load up the Keep state that has the Jerky McJerkface Hawke I designed because I could never stand to actually play things that way, I might actually have to play a Hawke who could hand Fenris over to the slaver, make Merrill smash and mirror and slaughter her clan, refuse to hook Aveline up with Donnic, hand Isabela over to the Arishok, approve of Anders and let him go, and let Varric keep the lyrium idol ...

 

And that's only what he did to his companions ...

[New Kid]

Ewwww ... that means if I load up the Keep state that has the Jerky McJerkface Hawke I designed because I could never stand to actually play things that way, I might actually have to play a Hawke who could hand Fenris over to the slaver, make Merrill smash and mirror and slaughter her clan, refuse to hook Aveline up with Donnic, hand Isabela over to the Arishok, approve of Anders and let him go, and let Varric keep the lyrium idol ...

 

And that's only what he did to his companions ...

It's funny, I did some of those things in my 'default' state haha.

[frylock23]

@ New Kid, I get doing some of those things in a world state across a playthrough. Things happen or someone does or doesn't like a person. I have a few of them in other plays that I actually did, too. I'm talking about everything I could think of that would seem to signal that Hawke was plainly a d*** in that world; that's a playthrough I could never do.

[john-in-france]

I think there is rather an large over reaction here.

 

Hawke has a huge part in DAI. Yes they do, they set up most of the backstory.

 

Hawke will be an NPC fighting alongside the Inquisitor at some stage...yes, proved in trailers.

 

Playing as Hawke is not likely.

Why? There is no export from DA2. There is no information on Hawkes specialisation in the Keep. So playing Hawke would end up as a default 'not your' Hawke which Bioware promised would not happen. You played a Blood Mage/Templar/Assassin and have a default 8 generic skills instead of your own Hawke skillset? Guaranteed fan uproar...like a nuclear bomb going off.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

Hopefully they'll end his story and Hawke can finally bugger off and disappear forever.

[Revan Reborn]

I think there is rather an large over reaction here.

 

Hawke has a huge part in DAI. Yes they do, they set up most of the backstory.

 

Hawke will be an NPC fighting alongside the Inquisitor at some stage...yes, proved in trailers.

 

Playing as Hawke is not likely.

Why? There is no export from DA2. There is no information on Hawkes specialisation in the Keep. So playing Hawke would end up as a default 'not your' Hawke which Bioware promised would not happen. You played a Blood Mage/Templar/Assassin and have a default 8 generic skills instead of your own Hawke skillset? Guaranteed fan uproar...like a nuclear bomb going off.

We don't need an export from DA2. The Keep makes us choose Hawke's class, gender, and his personality, which would define his specialization. Hawke's abilities would obviously be based on whether you were a warrior, rogue, or mage. I don't see what would be the issue here, as I believe more would like to play as Hawke again rather than Hawke just having a cameo appearance.

[john-in-france]

The Keep makes us choose Hawke's class, gender, and his personality, which would define his specialization. 

 

 

No it  doesn't. Warrior class for instance can be specialized as Beserker, Reaver or Templar in DA2...they are not included in Keep.

[Revan Reborn]

No it  doesn't. Warrior class for instance can be specialized as Beserker, Reaver or Templar in DA2...they are not included in Keep.

Then you mean the specific specializations from DA2? That is irrelevant as this is DAI. We are also only going to play as Hawke temporarily, so this is really not an issue. Based on whether you are a warrior, rogue, or mage and what weapon you decide to use will likely base Hawke's abilities around a certain discipline.

[Tielis]

No it  doesn't. Warrior class for instance can be specialized as Beserker, Reaver or Templar in DA2...they are not included in Keep.

 

So when we get him, he has not spent any points and we can do with him what we will.  Erm...  

 

Anyhow, seems the easiest way to handle it.

[john-in-france]

My point is it is not 'Your Hawke' as several specializations are not in DAI, such as Beserker or Blood Mage. 

 

Also Hawke has not been confirmed as playable, that is just speculation at the moment. 

[Ranadiel Marius]

Ewwww ... that means if I load up the Keep state that has the Jerky McJerkface Hawke I designed because I could never stand to actually play things that way, I might actually have to play a Hawke who could hand Fenris over to the slaver, make Merrill smash and mirror and slaughter her clan, refuse to hook Aveline up with Donnic, hand Isabela over to the Arishok, approve of Anders and let him go, and let Varric keep the lyrium idol ...

And that's only what he did to his companions ...

Bah destroying the mirror is the best thing Merrill can do with it. Nothing wrong with that choice.

[Frogtoad51]

I wonder if Hawke might be an enemy of the Inquisition depending on your stance in the Mage-Templar War. My Inquisitor is going to be Pro Templar and my Hawke is a Mage. It would be awesome if they fought against each other! Just fighting, not killing each other though. I'll delete my game and make a new Inquisitor before I kill my beloved snarky, mage, Hawke.