What you can realistically expect on last gen consoles will be reduced number of light sources, probably no shadows or very simplistic ones, much reduced draw distance, very reduced texture details, no AA or filtering, very simple and fewer particle effects, reduced amount of visual fluff (no birds or insects, reduced terrain grass, etc)
Not sure art style has anything to do with system resources unless they hobbled the number of vertices per model as well.
whether or not a game is cartoony is based on artstyle, while graphical details and such are based on texture quality. Typically games with cartoonish artstyle look good even without high quality textures, whereas games with a realistic artstyle require higher quality textures to look good and supposedly have a shorter lifespan in terms of beauty as texture quality gets better in games over the years, or so they say. WoW has a cartoony artstyle and looks like **** and always has imo. The op wishfully thinks it has a cartoony artstyle because he wants the game to look better than it likely does. Higher quality textures require more powerful hardware, so a cartoony artstyle despite its lower res textures will look good on weaker hardware.
No.
Buy a PC.... or a PS4.
But... I'm poor.
I guess it will look good when compared to other last gen game.
I disagree. It will probably not look as good as late games that were tailor made specifically for last-gen. Cross-gen games usually don't.
SInce I've pretty much been playing on a low-end PC for all my life I'm fine with it not looking as pretty. I mean, it's gonna look prettier on my PS3 than ME3 or DA2 did on my PC, so I'm content in that regard.
I just hope there aren't any huge framerate drops (although with Cameron Lee saying they're "aiming" for 30 fps I'm not holding my breath) or that the AI isn't worse.
I disagree. It will probably not look as good as late games that were tailor made specifically for last-gen. Cross-gen games usually don't.
Can you give me some examples? I've never actually noticed this before.
A recent example would be Forza Horizon 2. According to folks it looks worse than the original on 360.
I'm hoping that since it started development on the current-gen systems, it won't look terrible.
There are some next gen/old gen horror stories going around, like the above Forza. There's one that's worse, though. You could be one of the poor saps that got suckered into buying the 360/PS3 version of WWE '15, which is completely and totally neutered compared to the next-gen version. As well as compared to last year's version, which was literally copy/pasted from the prior version with minimal upgrades because the old publisher died.
No.
Okay, alternatively, if you think ANY game looks good on those relics these days, then sure, Inq will probably look fine to you.
"RELICS", oh come on, you can't be serious?
You gotta admit, a decade is a whole lot of time when it comes to technology.
You gotta admit, a decade is a whole lot of time when it comes to technology.
Not to me, no. To be honest apart from graphics, the next gen consoles aren't exactly ground-breaking.
A recent example would be Forza Horizon 2. According to folks it looks worse than the original on 360.
Doubtful. Forza 5 looked amazing and the Xbox One version of Horizon uses its engine, not that of the 360 one.
While I wouldn't call DA:I's art style cartoony, I would still say it's distinctive enough to make an impression even in the absence of extra power under the hood.
Not to me, no. To be honest apart from graphics, the next gen consoles aren't exactly ground-breaking.
Heh, not even in terms of graphics they are groundbreaking. But the point is, last-gen is REALLY old. Technology has made huge strides in the meantime.
Doubtful. Forza 5 looked amazing and the Xbox One version of Horizon uses its engine, not that of the 360 one.
What i meant is, the 360 version of Horizon 2 looks worse than the 360 version of Horizon.
What i meant is, the 360 version of Horizon 2 looks worse than the 360 version of Horizon.
That's not true either. It uses the Horizon engine, not a downgraded Xbox One engine. Actually it's been praised for its performance.
I'm in the same boat as you; while I could feasibly afford to upgrade to a PS4, as a college student working a damn near minimum wage (which barely pays for the cost of living here in NYC) retail job, I have better things to put my money toward. I will get around to it when there are a lot of next gen-exclusive games, but right now there aren't any that catch my interest, so the $400 to upgrade isn't really worth it for slightly better graphics. The funny thing is, when DA:I was announced, I mentally decided this would be the game to make me buy next gen, but when I found out a couple months ago they were still available for PS3/360... Well, thanks Bioware 
If anything, this works out nicely for them, as when I DO eventually buy one of the newer gen consoles likely around Q2/Q3 of 2015, I will probably buy another copy of DA:I for that system. Unless the game sucks to me so bad that I don't want to play it again, but I'm hoping that's not the case (and it's not likely, given I was one of the few people I know who had no major problem with DA2, barring a few gameplay things).
I think it will becuase the games it's very cartoony for the most part and yes it looks gorgeous in pc and next gen but the art style and details are not that complex
Toughts?
Cartoony? Are we looking at the same game? This isn't Borderlands. DAI is running on Frostbite 3, which is arguably one of the most powerful and sophisticated engines in the industry. This is the most realistic DA game to date. I don't know if you'd want to suggest whether it will look "good," but rather it will be severely lacking. It will be night and day between the visuals on ultra for a PC versus last gen consoles. New gen consoles will be somewhere in the middle.
Doubtful. Forza 5 looked amazing and the Xbox One version of Horizon uses its engine, not that of the 360 one.
While I wouldn't call DA:I's art style cartoony, I would still say it's distinctive enough to make an impression even in the absence of extra power under the hood.
Battlefield 4 looks way worse than 3 did on the old gen consoles which is 2 years older. there is more examples of this.
Its simple, tailor make a game for hardware set A and it will be able to squeeze more power from the hardware. Make it for PC/PS4/X1 and then port it to the 360/ps3? its a process of structurally watering the game down until its playable.
I disagree. It will probably not look as good as late games that were tailor made specifically for last-gen. Cross-gen games usually don't.
I think it will look as good as multi-plats designed for last-gen.
A recent example would be Forza Horizon 2. According to folks it looks worse than the original on 360.
I think this is just a case of them having seen Forza 2 on XB1 where it looks amazing (literally AMAZING) and a case of the terrain being slightly different in terms of the actual level design. When you compare similar assets in the old game and new on on 360 (based on what I've seen of 360 footage on Youtube which isn't making it look any better), it looks the same as the old game (which we have for 360). It looks FAR worse than the One version, but the One version is amazingly beautiful.
Though it's reasonable to think the 360 version might have been better than the cross-gen since it had been designed for only one system, I really don't think so. I think it's more a case of them noticing more now that a better version exists. This wouldn't apply to cross-platform games anyway. Now something like The Last of US for PS3, which was designed very specifically for one exact console and at the end of the generation, with effort put into using that console's power to the absolute max, might not be what you get from a cross-gen game, but then it's also not going to be what you get from a cross-plat game, period.
SInce I've pretty much been playing on a low-end PC for all my life I'm fine with it not looking as pretty. I mean, it's gonna look prettier on my PS3 than ME3 or DA2 did on my PC, so I'm content in that regard.
I just hope there aren't any huge framerate drops (although with Cameron Lee saying they're "aiming" for 30 fps I'm not holding my breath) or that the AI isn't worse.
I have similar concerns about framerate issues, and that was actually the deciding factor in my choice to upgrade to the PS4 from the PS3. Currently, my gaming TV is a 24-inch, 720p unit, so I initially planned to stick with my PS3 for DAI (why buy a console that can play games at 1080p if my TV can't reflect the upgrade?). But there was no way I wanted to risk having to suffer through severe framerate drops, which to me represent a dealbreaker that a slight loss of appreciable resolution does not. I actually had the PS3 version pre-ordered, but I thought about my poor PS3 barely chugging through certain sections of Dragon's Dogma and DA II, and I decided to take the next-gen plunge, despite the fact that it will be at least another year before I can get a 1080p gaming TV.
(why buy a console that can play games at 1080p if my TV can't reflect the upgrade?).
Sorry what? There's much more regarding fidelity than screen resolution.
Sorry what? There's much more regarding fidelity than screen resolution.
Yes, but resolution is one significant factor among many. The point of my post was that reliably playable framerates were more important to me than resolution.
No.
Not enough, in any case. Textures will most probably be crap.
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