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[magicalpoop]

Pretty much as the title says. I know this isn't Mass Effect (Actually wait, all of them have an ultimate - if not - linear ending).
So anyways, I haven't read much about Inquisition (DIdn't want to spoil it) but it'd be great if we could strike deals with demons and etc.

[Silver Souls]

To get a desire demon as a companion would be cool.. would it be a love interest to both male and female quizzis?

[Semyaza82]

I wouldn't be surprised if we have the chance to make deals of some kind with some sort of demon in DA:I, like we did in DA:O.

 

As for companion demons, there would pretty much have to be a big plot reason why they joined the party and why everywhere you go people don't freak out at a demon randomly wandering around with you.

 

Guess they could do something similar to what they did with Justice in Awakenings, or just have a possessed mage as a party member in some future game.

[MzHyde]

Personally, I don't see how that could ever be a good idea, and besides, wouldn't the demon have to possess someone in order to travel with you?    I'd only be okay with it if you could like change the demon's nature. After all, a demon is just a spirit who is parroting emotions we deem evil. Perhaps, if you could somehow help it understand and convince it of the error of its ways.....otherwise, I much prefer my current method of dealing with them. Pretend to be on their side so I can get what I want from them, then stab them in the back gloriously so!

 

Die demon scum!

[Hanako Ikezawa]

We were able to make a deal with a demon in DAO and DA2, so I wouldn't be surprised if we can in DAI. 

 

wouldn't the demon have to possess someone in order to travel with you?

Not always.

Cole is a Fade entity, and yet he is not possessing anything. Shades are also Fade entities that are in Thedas without possessing things.

[Silver Souls]

maybe that fade hand the quizzi has could potentially be some kind of chain or something that makes the demon obedient or something?

[MzHyde]

Not always.

Cole is a Fade entity, and yet he is not possessing anything. Shades are also Fade entities that are in Thedas without possessing things.

 

Cole is unique from my understanding, and demons like shades usually have to be summoned through magic, don't they? You do have a point, though. Still, were you able to recruit a demon through whatever means, I would have a hard time trusting it. Had too many in-game instances that involved demons hurting people.

 

Perhaps I should rethink my position though. I've been thinking. I loved Justice before he joined with Anders, and it was Anders' lust for vengeance changed him. If I learned anything from that, it's that spirits and demons are one in the same. The thoughts and feelings of people have a very real and powerful affect on them even to the extent of completely changing their form and behavior. I also recall from playing a mage in DA:O that magic is a matter of will, and so is the existence of everything in the Fade.

 

From this I formed a theory. I believe that all that exists in the Fade is the product of the conscious thought of living things in the physical world. People are the ones who shape the Fade. That means that the nature of a spirit is dependent upon the energies that form it. So, perhaps the "demon" could change? I mean, Justice became Vengeance, so couldn't the opposite also happen? That would be interesting.

[DaySeeker]

Maybe demon is not the right language for what you describe.  We still don't know much about the Fade that is outside of Chantry teachings.  We also seem to have an overly simplistic view of the variety of spirits and how they can effect the material world.  I can't see a desire demon agreeing to being a slave, nor can I see them working on your behalf.  Wouldn't they attempt to usurup your power by seducing companions?  WOuldn't companions leave you if they knew you consorted with demons?  

 

I really don't see a deal with a demon as a helpful story device unless it is the story, otherwise you have the demon solving a big problem with a wave of their talons or a giant problem that would be world change (in the world of the Inquisitor) and would only exist in a limited number of player's worlds.  So, for demons, I say no, for a spirit I would be interested.  

 

Fade spirits can only interact with us through our understanding of them.  They must conform or shape themselves in a way that could be understood by us and a way they can understand.  I believe spirits must be corrupted through their joining with a human being as Justice was, as it seems The Golden City was because humanity is driven by it's need, greed, and fear.  Every human hungers and every one fears death, these are the most basic and primal of our desires and no matter how good a person is these needs exist and corrupt.  They can push men to do horrible things.  I would think demons who are so connected to human drives would eventually turn on that one.  Justice was fine inhabiting a dead body which had human appearance and no humanity.

[veeia]

Erm, look I'm not one to judge, since I have expressed a desire to have a talking Darkspawn companion, but does it have to be a desire demon? Couldn't we have like...any other kind of demon who's not constantly fondling themselves?

[coldflame]

I'd rather have a desire demon as a 'chamber maid' than a companion...

[MzHyde]

@DaySeeker No, I don't think demon is the right word either, and I agree with you that a demon would try to manipulate people. Most companions would leave, but I can think of a couple that wouldn't mind. As for spirits being corrupted through joining with a human, that's not true. Mages can summon demons straight out of the fade. Those are already demons before ever having possessed someone. It seems that they are what they are based on whatever emotions shape them. If you recall the fade from the mage origin in DA:O, it was explained that everything in the fade is a matter of will. That means that while in the fade, the form of not only yourself but of anything and everything around you can be altered and manipulated simply through desiring something and willing it into being. In other words, think it, believe it is so, and it shall be. People shape spirits. It is the will of mortals which gives rise to all in the fade, not the other way around. As for the Golden City, according to Corypheus, it was already black when the Tevinter mages got there. If you ask me, there never was a Golden City. It's all a lie. Something else is there.

[DaySeeker]

The Darkspawn appeared after the invasion of The Golden City.  Wouldn't that back it up?  I'm not sure one could argue that because we perceive something one way that is its nature.  If it were only will that effected The Fade then there would be no need to fight anything there, and it would've looked a whole lot better than it did.  We entered Connor's version of the fade and Feneryel's, so where is that?  Who decides?  I don't think anyone's will is strong enough to extinguish basic human drives.  

[MzHyde]

@DaySeeker The darkspawn appeared after that because the taint did indeed come from the fade. Recall the eluvian from DA:O? If you played the Dalish elf origin, then you were infected with the taint via the eluvian. Just because the taint originates from the fade doesn't mean it came into being because of the mages, though. Truth is, we don't really know for certain why the Black City is as it is.

 

You are right regarding will. Will is a factor, but it's consciousness in general that really shapes the fade. This includes the full range of emotions and desires. Rage demons are the embodiment of rage, Justice embodied the ideal of...well...justice, and so on.

 

I believe the reason you still have to fight things in the fade comes down a couple things. First, you're character isn't the only person in existence. There are a lot of other minds twisting and contorting the fade. Also, Solas is supposed to be able to see memories of places in the fade, which means that the actions of people leave an imprint on the fade even after death. This imprint may not be able to be altered.That's not to mention that spirits have minds and wills of their own and have control over the fade as well. Combine that with the fact they are native to the fade, and any mortal who tries to face a spirit in the fade is at a serious disadvantage.

 

People are accustomed to living in a static world. It's difficult for an individual, for instance, to convince themselves, even for a moment, that their physical form is not fixed. This is necessary if you wish to transform into another creature in the fade like when you entered the fade in DA:O. If you wanted to become a mouse, you had to literally believe you were a mouse. Not easy.

 

Where are Connor's and Feynriel's versions of the fade? No one knows. No one chooses where it is. It simply is. The form of the fade is constatly changing and shifting. What is there now, may not be there later. What has a certain appearance one moment may look like something else the next. Nothing in the fade is set in stone(save for perhaps those imprints I mentioned.)

 

Don't recall saying anything about eliminating basic human drives. It's fairly obvious that you can't do that.

[aerisblight]

why do you want a demon as a companion? its a D-E-M-O-N! demon! you will probably end up being controlled or with a dagger stuck in your back. I am very sorry, but I would never work with them. Nothing good will come out of it.

[DaySeeker]

I think The Fade and spirits are interesting.  I look forward to finding out more in DAI.  We've got ole, Solas, and some new demons, so I expect we'll have a better idea. 

[Decepticon Leader Sully]

Hmmmmm me thinks the man doth like pasties.

[Ascendra]

Erm, look I'm not one to judge, since I have expressed a desire to have a talking Darkspawn companion, but does it have to be a desire demon? Couldn't we have like...any other kind of demon who's not constantly fondling themselves?

Eh, fondling is the whole point of having desire demon as a companion right next to a lack of clothing
I wouldnt mind a pride demon companion though, that thing is cool.

[Doominike]

I'd still trust her more than some others tbh

[MzHyde]

I'd still trust her more than some others tbh

You serious? More than who?    Desire demons are so manipulative.

[Doominike]

Ya I'm serious, they don't BS when a deal is done. More than vivienne and cullen for sure, Cassandra is chantry so I'll watch her too, Iron Bull is Qunari but he seems chill about it so he might be fine but I'll still keep an eye on the dude

[Obsidianite]

What about as an adviser kind of deal, have a demon/spirit for fade ops and such.