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The sync thingie serves no purpose , you just upload info , and those information will just slightly customize your Keep Experience.

If they have no further plan with this data , IMHO it was a bad decision since the sync wasn't working properly for years.

It's a lot of work and time wasted , they could just have added a feature where you could type your heroes name or do something else ...

 

I'm really scratching my head about this actually ...



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There is a faq on origin homepage call ea help for one. Not for nothing but like all games that use origin I believe you sign in with your email. I'm a ps3 gamer exclusively, never had to download the client and have my psn linked to Origin although I use the same email so I have no issues. That's not to say the linking of accounts should be on the origin site and not having to use a PC to download the client

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Do you mean it goes through the whole synching process everytime you log in?  Because if that's what you mean, that shouldn't be happening and would be a bug.

 

However if you mean on just the first time you log in...  well, I'm not sure what to tell you...  it isn't too long of a process IMO.  And it should only run once.  (unless you manually sync using the "Play Resync" button)

Yep, every time.  I've reported the bug and asked for an optional checkbox to disable it.



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Aside from the simple solutions like not logged in/wrong account/mods/box not checked. :P
 

You mean to play the game without RUNSCRIPT available?  Perish the thought.



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Yup. 

 

It's a long time since I played anything on PC and, having been converted to the Dark Side (i.e. console gaming), I can say that one of the chief advantages of playing on a little box under the TV is that you can buy the game off the shelf, take it home, put the disk in the slot and it will play. There is nothing to enable or disable. There are no web addresses or file names that need to be manually changed. There is no waiting for hours while it installs. There are no questions about whether your machine has the right specs. It's simple and immediate plug-in and play.

 

For a huge number of DA:I players therefore, having to go online at all is going to seem unnecessary. They'll do it, but it will feel like an extra step they shouldn't have to make. Now, having gone online, will it do what they expect it to? No. Many of them will be expecting it to import their saves, so no, it won't. Is that their fault? Despite what a few people on here are saying, no, I don't believe it is. Most of them have probably never visited these forums. A small percentage of them may read gaming magazines or websites, but even some of the journalists are hedging their bets and being ambiguous in the way they describe what the Keep is for. So, yes, they'll be ignorant, but it won't be their fault.

 

And what will they find when they do get online? They have to open an Origin account which most of them won't already have. They'll have to download the Origin client because that isn't automatic. They'll have to link their XBL and/or PSN accounts even though nothing on their Origin homepage tells them how to do it. Only then can they even try to use the Keep.

 

And if, after all that, it doesn't work correctly first time? There will be anger and frustration and a repeat of the ME3 backlash. Is it their fault? No, it's the fault of everyone who's said or implied that it's an easy or straightforward process.  For some, it obviously will be, especially if they already have Origin set up, use the BSN forums regularly and are used to games having to be tinkered with. But, for an awful lot of gamers, it's going to seem like a lot of extra time and effort before they can even start to play the game. And that's not going to go down well, especially if people try to tell them it's somehow their own fault.

Nail -> Head

Very well put, Dajb.

 

To put it in a much shorter version...

I strongly suspect that casual players will be very annoyed with the Keep.

 

Hell.. I've been paying attention to DAI for a several months now, and I'm disappointed.

 

For BW to reduce the backlash, I suspect, is coming I'd suggest:

1) Remove the auto-sync. Make a button and make a clear statement, next to that button, that all that's being 'synced' is achievement data.

2) Drop the Hero/Hawke import altogether and let us name our Hero/Hawke in the Tapestry.

 

Losing the Hero/Hawke portrait import (and lets face it, that's all we'd really be losing) might upset a few die-hard fans, but it'd help remove any illusion of a game save import for the more casual players that haven't been following every tid-bit of DAI/Keep news.



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There is a faq on origin homepage call ea help for one. Not for nothing but like all games that use origin I believe you sign in with your email. I'm a ps3 gamer exclusively, never had to download the client and have my psn linked to Origin although I use the same email so I have no issues. That's not to say the linking of accounts should be on the origin site and not having to use a PC to download the client

Hehe. You mean call EA's customer service?  EA has a history of horrible customer service.  XD

Amazing awesome games but not so much customer service.



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Why would this be a topic? How is this an issue???



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Why would this be a topic? How is this an issue???

Why would you comment asking such questions? How is that the issue of the topic???



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Since we can create world states in the keep why do we need to sync?

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Since we can create world states in the keep why do we need to sync?

Pretty pictures, really.



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Since we can create world states in the keep why do we need to sync?

 

"Need"?  We don't.  It's a nice little feature that Bioware has implemented mainly for the fans.  It is still being worked on, and as such has a few kinks still.  But none of that should affect Inquisition in any way.  So...  not sure what the dilemma is, personally.  If it's something that gets fixed for everyone before Inquisition - great.  (It's still possible that they may, but who knows.)  If it's something they don't get fixed by launch, none of it will affect the Keep's ability to create worldstates and use them in Inquisition.  And then if it's fixed several weeks in, you'll still get your character portrait and name showing up in the Tapestry; and your worldstate will still work fine.

 

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"Need"?  We don't.  It's a nice little feature that Bioware has implemented mainly for the fans.  It is still being worked on, and as such has a few kinks still.  But none of that should affect Inquisition in any way.  So...  not sure what the dilemma is, personally.  If it's something that gets fixed for everyone before Inquisition - great.  (It's still possible that they may, but who knows.)  If it's something they don't get fixed by launch, none of it will affect the Keep's ability to create worldstates and use them in Inquisition.  And then if it's fixed several weeks in, you'll still get your character portrait and name showing up in the Tapestry; and your worldstate will still work fine.

 

:)

I think a lot of it is over the confusion of the feature. If they don't fix it by launch and keep it in. And STILL haven't made an official announcement on what it does and doesn't do (besides importing your saves) it'll cause a lot of confusion and panic and angry over why it says "no custom heroes found."



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Hehe. You mean call EA's customer service? EA has a history of horrible customer service. XD

Amazing awesome games but not so much customer service.


http://help.ea.com/e...ic-screen-name/

I meant the origin website not calling ea

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I do understand that for some people at the moment the Sync' feature doesn't seem very interesting. I also understand that it could be frustrating as Bioware propose its customers a new functionnality and some are not able to have it working. (for various reasons, some on Bioware's side, some on Customer's side) Of course, this frustration wouldn't have exist if Bioware didn't propose it. For me having my Wardens and my Hawkes with their proper first name is definitely a must have. The correct portrait is a plus. Achievements, I don't really care.

 

Now called me the optimistic guy but I hope Bioware have bigger plans for the Keep.
When they released DA:O, I don't think they worry about the format of the save files. I am not sure they were fully aware of the asset for the player of being able to carry their background (characters, decisions, ...) to the next game of the serie. (Around me, many friends would have liked to have a "Keep like" for ME2 and ME3 before starting those games)

 

At the moment, we don't have any idea how the Keep would interact with Dragon Age : Inquisition. If they keep in mind that save files should be robust and simple in term of choices made through the current game, I wonder if the next step for the Sync feature wouldn't be being able to import your choices for the next Dragon Age (Dragon Age IV) through your Origin Account.



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http://help.ea.com/e...ic-screen-name/

I meant the origin website not calling ea

Haha, I see the confusion now.  XD I totally read that wrong.  But still, I like how it says contact for more help but give no indication on where or how.



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Haha, I see the confusion now. XD I totally read that wrong. But still, I like how it says contact for more help but give no indication on where or how.


On the bottom where it says "contact us"

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On the bottom where it says "contact us"

Stop it.    :wacko:



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I do understand that for some people at the moment the Sync' feature doesn't seem very interesting. I also understand that it could be frustrating as Bioware propose its customers a new functionnality and some are not able to have it working. (for various reasons, some on Bioware's side, some on Customer's side) Of course, this frustration wouldn't have exist if Bioware didn't propose it. For me having my Wardens and my Hawkes with their proper first name is definitely a must have. The correct portrait is a plus. Achievements, I don't really care.

 

Now called me the optimistic guy but I hope Bioware have bigger plans for the Keep.
When they released DA:O, I don't think they worry about the format of the save files. I am not sure they were fully aware of the asset for the player of being able to carry their background (characters, decisions, ...) to the next game of the serie. (Around me, many friends would have liked to have a "Keep like" for ME2 and ME3 before starting those games)

 

At the moment, we don't have any idea how the Keep would interact with Dragon Age : Inquisition. If they keep in mind that save files should be robust and simple in term of choices made through the current game, I wonder if the next step for the Sync feature wouldn't be being able to import your choices for the next Dragon Age (Dragon Age IV) through your Origin Account.

Well the plan is choices you make in DA:I will go back to the keep used sometime later then in the export for the next game