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#51
Jorina Leto

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I personally see this as a good sign, I just think early embargo usually shows that developers or publishers are confident in their game. There has been some cases where games' review embargo was set right before the release date or the day of release to prevent any damage in sales because of poor review score.


You do not need confidence when you're placing enough ads.

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This post is a perfect example of why pro reviewers are more reliable than forumites.  ME3, despite its ending, was an awesome game.  If my copy had crashed immediately after Priority Tuchanka, it would still have been worth the money.  Yet the forums devolved into a cesspool of hyperbolic ranting over the ending. Never mind that the vast majority of those who complained the loudest had not only bought the game, but finished it multiple times.

 

For ME3, I'm sure for a reviewer who was not especially invested in trilogy a high score is absolutely valid, but I think it equally valid for a player who was invested to give a really low score.  Personally, I pretty much hated 95% of the game and as a conclusion to the series I don't even rate it at all.  

  

DAI doesn't have the same potential for this kind of disparity as I don't think there is such a wide array of expectations as the ME series had.  We have a new central character, mostly new companions etc.  I'm much more comfortable in taking the professional reviewers opinion on board this time.



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I think that video already has been posted here on BSN :)

 

And if you want to post youtube video here you only have to copy the URL of video and simply paste it. 

Can you please give the link to that?



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I personally disagree, I find the average joe is much better informed and congruent to my views on gaming. Game press typically views things(specially combat mechanics) very differently, from my experience, outside of a very select few. I agree reviews can be used as tools, but in all my years I've never paid any attention to reviews and have had no problem not picking stinkers, just by going on forums if I am unsure.

 

To each their own, but I find reviews to be very unneeded as a tool.

 

While the community opinion can be just as useful as professional reviews as long as you continue to use them as a tool, they are, in my opinion, less reliable on the average. Most people don't know how to describe a gaming experience well enough to allow you to pull out useful information that might apply to your tastes.

 

Also, as already mentioned, there's a good likelihood of fanboism and hype training that's just as powerful, or nearly as powerful, as a monetary incentive that may or may not be there. 


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#55
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Even though I don't really care about reviews, if Bioware is willing to have the reviews published a week earlier, it shows that they;re really confident with DAI.



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To be honest Bioware won't drop the ball this time. Their marketting is confident: trailers always made of actual gameplay, a lot of streams before launch, no fishy pre-order bonuses (Day-1 story DLC) and now this... Whole thing says: we're sure of our product and don't want another PR disaster.


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I think its a good sign that the developers are confident in their game, however I dont know if its a sign the game is good yet.

 

Time will tell I guess.



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After the 11th. Everyone with a copy is allowed to stream 4 hours a day until launch.

So get ready for ALOT of Twitch Streams

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Reviewers have a massive financial incentive to give AAA games glowing reviews whether or not the game is any good, that shows in the scores they give out.  So no I don't trust them.

Oh yes, the old 'corporate overlords are corrupting society' gag.



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Reviewers have a massive financial incentive to give AAA games glowing reviews whether or not the game is any good, that shows in the scores they give out.  So no I don't trust them.

 

So why Destiny, one of the most hyped/marketed games of all time, got mediocre reviews?


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#61
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My 10 cents, is that I read reviews, sure, but I buy games based on my gut. And I ignore review scores. If I read a review, I read the review. I care about the author's experience, not a number that could be based on a number of different factors that have nothing to do with the actual game in my hand. Same with you-tubers. If a 'review' is nothing but : THIS GAME SUCKS! I'll press the little x button.

 

When it comes to DAI, I've preordered, and I already know I'll like it. No BioWare game has truly been awful in my opinion (though DA2 came close), and all of them deserve my money. That is all.



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While the community opinion can be just as useful as professional reviews as long as you continue to use them as a tool, they are, in my opinion, less reliable on the average. Most people don't know how to describe a gaming experience well enough to allow you to pull out useful information that might apply to your tastes.

 

Also, as already mentioned, there's a good likelihood of fanboism and hype training that's just as powerful, or nearly as powerful, as a monetary incentive that may or may not be there. 

Well ya, in aggregate on a forum, ya you will have less informative people talking about the game, but you will also have plenty of people who are not and they are easy to find. Let's plays are always more helpful in this regard when it comes to informing yourself of a game. I've just never, personally found much of a need to depend on reviews. Even back during the SNES-PS1 years I never relied on them, and never had problems with buying games I didnt like. previews, trailers and ect normally give you what you need. Reviews(even ones done by the game press) in the traditional sense, to me, are just not that helpful and not something I've ever needed to rely on with games.  



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Who read reviews anyway? Those corrupt liars from press didn't showed a bit of competence in years. 10/10 for CoD? 10/10 for BF? 10/10 for DA2 and ME3? Ha-ha, fat chance.

Though i have to thank press as i learned to trust only my own expirience only because of their ignorance.

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Who read reviews anyway? Those corrupt liars from press didn't showed a bit of competence in years. 10/10 for CoD? 10/10 for BF? 10/10 for DA2 and ME3? Ha-ha, fat chance.

Though i have to thank press as i learned to trust only my own expirience only because of their ignorance.

Soooo you're going to judge every reviewer based on the few mainstream? Also, please show me a single review where DA2 or ME3 have 10/10


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I never read reviews before playing a game I am really excited about like Dragon Age (for example), I prefer to avoid spoillers (of any kind) and just play it without any kind of review/guide for the first time, only after I finish the game the first time I go looking for reviews and/or guides... I've been doing so since FFXIII (2012 or so) and have no complaints so far :D



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I hope the game will receive good reviews, I think I will go and read the review on IGN and perhaps gamespot, but that would be it. Can't wait to try the game out myself.



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So why Destiny, one of the most hyped/marketed games of all time, got mediocre reviews?

Because it's a mmo shooter reviews by reviews who have to play it by themselves and that it's bare bones.



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That was the YouTuber payola issue. This did not include actual game journalists.

 

And on the topic of reviews - I have a couple reviewers/sites and some YouTubers/bloggers whose opinion I take into account when I buy games. Honestly, I trust forums the least, since the Internet Hate Machine turns the slightest issue into a full-blown protest movement. Also, reviewers are usually much more analytical in their criticism, whereas most (granted, not all) user reviews can be boiled into "the best game ever! GOTY or GTFO!" vs "they changed it, now it sucks". Reviewers usually articulate their criticism better, like "I didn't enjoy X because of Y and Z," which is a point where you can go "Okay, X was the thing that sold me on this game, and I too hate Y and Z. Maybe I'm better off not buying this" - so even if the game gets a deserved 90/100, I can make an informed decision not to buy (on launch or in general). Not because this isn't a good game, but because this is probably a good game I might not enjoy.

 

Not to say that forum posts and user reviews can't go that aswell, just that they usually don't.

Game Journalists are bought and paid for just look at IGN



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Game Journalists are bought and paid for just look at IGN

The Illuminati are also collaborating with the free masons. 



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The Illuminati are also collaborating with the free masons. 

I dont think he meant literally bought and paid for. That Ryan guy, from the microsoft fanboy portion of IGN... The way he talked about titanfall had me rolling my eye's. But on the whole I do agree with your idea of not taring everyone, just because of loud bad apples in the press. If that was the case, you wouldnt ever be able to watch, read, or listen to any news anchor ever, cause holy hell are they corrupt. I still contend though that reviews, with the advent of social media and video gameplay previews, the relevance of reviews is a thing growing more and more into the past.

 

I think we are getting closer to the movie industry, now, where the press can absolutely hate a movie, but it still sell gangbusters in the theaters.



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The Illuminati are also collaborating with the free masons. 

How  Silly The Illuminati  are the free masons   they took over along time ago



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Depends on The forumer.
If I know a person for year and I know We like The same things in games or rpgs, why shouldn't I trust him if he plays The game before me?

This.

 

Reviewers have no particular attachment to a storyline or characters and are unlikely to care if either gets butchered.  But those things are vital (to me anyway) with games like Mass Effect and Dragon Age.

 

So yeah, I'll trust the word of a fan with similar interests as mine way before I trust that of a paid reviewer.  Heck a reviewer may not even touch on the stuff that truly interests me.  


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#73
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who the hell cares about reviews, just give me the damn game already and let me be on my way.



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I personally don't trust reviewers or anyone who does any type of reporting, no matter what others say will judge for myself.

 

Yeah, it's not like letting us know what they think is a genuinely good game is their job or anything, right?



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Reviewers opinions are meaningless to me.

 

However, they talk about game features and stuff, and that's generally what i want to learn.

 

So an early embargo is a very good thing.