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#101
DarthLaxian

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 A eye patch on a chick is sexy

 

Not really - It makes me feel sad...(I feel bad for everybody who lost a bodypart - with one exception, maybe, people who did stopid irresponsible things and got that as a "reward")

 

greetings LAX

ps: More no way in hell - at least were this mission is concerned (will not send her...this will be one of the things I will try to find out before I start playing...maybe there's one advantage to start playing later than the people in the US are...(can't see any others and I am still pissed that the game-sellers still stick to that release-day-crap that should have been abolished years ago))



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I'd consider sending in Cullen for no other reason than because he'd probably take a decent complement of Templars. If that's not enough to avert the torture scene, I've done the best I could.

 

That is why I think he'd probably be the best choice is well. Leliana tries to infiltrate along with other spies, who apparently end up executed. Josephine or other diplomats would be without protection and also behind enemy lines. Cullen on the other hand isn't sneaking in or knocking politely on the front gate. He's likely coming up with an army and a battering ram, and knocking down that front gate. Assuming all advisers are available for that mission, he seems the least likely to be captured.


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That is why I think he'd probably be the best choice is well. Leliana tries to infiltrate along with other spies, who apparently end up executed. Josephine or other diplomats would be without protection and also behind enemy lines. Cullen on the other hand isn't sneaking in or knocking politely on the front gate. He's likely coming up with an army and a battering ram, and knocking down that front gate. Assuming all advisers are available for that mission, he seems the least likely to be captured.

 

Not to mention, as we are dealing with mages. Wouldn't Cullen's templar abilities give him an advantage in this case?


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That is why I think he'd probably be the best choice is well. Leliana tries to infiltrate along with other spies, who apparently end up executed. Josephine or other diplomats would be without protection and also behind enemy lines. Cullen on the other hand isn't sneaking in or knocking politely on the front gate. He's likely coming up with an army and a battering ram, and knocking down that front gate. Assuming all advisers are available for that mission, he seems the least likely to be captured.

Cullen gives no  F**Ks and he knows how to handle mages so its the  best choice



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Not to mention, as we are dealing with mages. Wouldn't Cullen's templar abilities give him an advantage in this case?

 

Good point. Presumably the Inquisition will also have other Templars in its service as well. 



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I'm not convinced that we would actually have the choice to avoid sending Leliana there. The entire sequence is too scripted, and too heavy in story to seem like something optional. And from the twitch streams, we already know that certain advisors are locked out of certain "missions" on the war table.



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I'm not convinced that we would actually have the choice to avoid sending Leliana there. The entire sequence is too scripted, and too heavy in story to seem like something optional. And from the twitch streams, we already know that certain advisors are locked out of certain "missions" on the war table.

 

That could be possible as well. Leliana's spies for example were the only option available to go look for the Wardens along the coast in Ferelden.



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I'd consider sending in Cullen for no other reason than because he'd probably take a decent complement of Templars. If that's not enough to avert the torture scene, I've done the best I could.

 

he has our inquisition troops not templars. but as i said this will likely be one of leliana's individual assignments i don't see it being open to everyone.

it has to have some kind of benefit for doing so.

 

perhaps without her going in its a much much tougher fight just to reach her?



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That is why I think he'd probably be the best choice is well. Leliana tries to infiltrate along with other spies, who apparently end up executed. Josephine or other diplomats would be without protection and also behind enemy lines. Cullen on the other hand isn't sneaking in or knocking politely on the front gate. He's likely coming up with an army and a battering ram, and knocking down that front gate. Assuming all advisers are available for that mission, he seems the least likely to be captured.

Well Jose might have a fair shot also, she is likely to use her contacts and deals to find a group she can convice to go in for her. Doubt the foes will be against hiring mercs or dealing with them. Favors for favors is part  what she deals with.

But yeah Cullen sounds best



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he has our inquisition troops not templars. but as i said this will likely be one of leliana's individual assignments i don't see it being open to everyone.

it has to have some kind of benefit for doing so.

 

perhaps without her going in its a much much tougher fight just to reach her?

The Inquisition troops are supposed to be men he brought from Kirkwall, though, aren't they? Former subordinates of his who became disillusioned with the Templars. As for it being an individual mission, I don't see why. Unless there's something important I'm missing it seems to me that Cullen's approach to getting you into a castle is no less legitimate than Leiliana's.



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The Inquisition troops are supposed to be men he brought from Kirkwall, though, aren't they? Former subordinates of his who became disillusioned with the Templars. As for it being an individual mission, I don't see why. Unless there's something important I'm missing it seems to me that Cullen's approach to getting you into a castle is no less legitimate than Leiliana's.

I believe it was said somewhere that a portion of your inquisition at the start is templars who didn't join up with lambert or the red templars, but don't quote me on it!

As for the advisors I agree that sending in cullen to storm the castle is probably the best solution and the one I will choose if available, but I imagine this will negatively impact your relationship with Dorian (I personally couldn't care less since he's not going to like my pro circle inquisitor anyway) while I am curious to see this new mage hating leliana I'm not going to get her knowingly tortured for it...at least not on my canon playthrough. It will be like unlocking reaver in DAO, do it once and then go back and pretend it never happened XD

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The Inquisition troops are supposed to be men he brought from Kirkwall, though, aren't they? Former subordinates of his who became disillusioned with the Templars. As for it being an individual mission, I don't see why. Unless there's something important I'm missing it seems to me that Cullen's approach to getting you into a castle is no less legitimate than Leiliana's.

 

the whole hard choices thing. If you have an option with no negatives and a positive (sending in cullen and his troops) and an option with negatives (leliana getting tortured) no matter how good the positive people will inevitably chose the first option.

 

there's are the sort of "cheating" choices bioware seems to moving away from.

take the M/T war so far all indications are their is no I win button no alliance where everybody just kisses and makes up. But a hard choice where you must actually live with your decision.

 

whenever there's an option to have a zero negative outcome people will take it. Cullen busting down the door would either be that zero negative unless he failed as well and if not tortured the negative still needs to be on par with Leliana.

 

zero negatives are not a choice they are an I win button. give that the entire thing is a fundamentally shift in Lelianas character it seems very personal not a place holder scene, where you insert X character and the scene plays the same way.

 

Cullen for example already hates mages so the scene does what to his character? re-enforce a viewpoint he's held for over 10 years? He's also male meaning its much like the Alenko decision (he's bomb tec and is pretty sad character as well as being male) the decision does not become who do i choose? but a do i sacrifice Alenko?

 

this would be no different if only Leliana gets the negative outcome, you only choose it to experience it unless your RPing a ****** nobody would choose for any reason other then to see it (i win button scenario why have her tortured if you don't need to?)

 

and if they both get captured?

Leliana mostly likeable character in her third game, spy master and deeply emotional character (we all remember leliana's song)

Cullen Templar knight likeability split first time he's been something other then a background character, hardarsed mage hating general and male.

 

it is much more palatable to send him to be tortured, for those reasons. unless your RPing someone who hates leliana or is in love with cullen.

it becomes an Alenko choice where its almost too easy to choose one over the other because the outcome is the same.

 

but if it were solely leliana's mission to slip in and you don't do it and not sending her in results in a very negative outcome such as the loss of massive troop numbers or even a party member.

 

suddenly you have a duel negative if the party member dies there gone for the rest of the game but depending on your choice up until now (such as pro mage) sending leliana in may stuff up things where see despises mages so much she doesn't do certain missions wont send support etc, which has dramatic repercussions down the line.

 

Suddenly the double negative is not so easy, the choice is as stark as making one choice.

then there's other subtle ways of doing the same, such as having her tortured actually hardens her so at some later point in the game she doesn't hesitate and she saves herself/someone else.

 

whatever the case there has to be a reason a hook that makes you decide to send her in it has to be a real choice, or its the Q/G war all over again where there's a big flashing i win button. 



#113
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I would not Send her on the mission   unless there is a  achievement tied with the mission but it would be a one time thing

 

"Sorry about the torture Leliana.  I needed that achievement..."



#114
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Honestly, I'd send her if it was an achievement. xD

 

But if it's optional, I'd save before the mission, send Cullen, and hope it doesn't go horribly awry.



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We don't even know what led up to Leliana being tortured. I heard one of the devs mention that that scene had some things cut out, and other decisions that were made previous (and which we know NOTHING of) which led to that scene.

It's still two weeks away before we know for certain. Unless the strat guide gets released early.

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would be cool to have a horifficaly scarred companion.



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It's worth pointing out that torture doesn't necessarily require physical disfigurement.