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[Fardreamer]

I'm still trying to perfect my Keep timeline, and I'm getting stumped on the OGB question.  As a plot device, having an old god reborn into the world free of the darkspawn taint is just too good to pass up.  Even on my good characters, I really want to have the OGB. 

 

However, I'm a bit worried what reactions that will have on Leliana in DA:I... I romanced Leliana on my Warden, so I'm wondering if she'll be upset when it's revealed I made a baby with Morrigan.  MAybe that's why she's so bitter and cold in Inquisition.

 

Do you think BW will ever make it canon, or bring it up again in a significant way?

[Ailith Tycane]

Made canon, absolutely not. Be brought up again, maybe, but not in any major or story changing capacity. 

[Killdren88]

I wouldn't mind if they made it canon, but for the sake of avoiding the annoying rants on how choice doesn't matter, best leave it alone.

[silentspec111]

Dont know about Canon but it will be definitely brought up in some capacity....

[BloodKaiden]

Doubt it'll be made canon, too many people didn't trust Morrigan enough to save their Warden from dying. Would have made for a very interesting story though, especially if they'd gone down the road of making OGB a player character in a future DA game. -sighs-

[Fardreamer]

Doubt it'll be made canon, too many people didn't trust Morrigan enough to save their Warden from dying. Would have made for a very interesting story though, especially if they'd gone down the road of making OGB a player character in a future DA game. -sighs-

 

Hmm, I never thought of having the OGB as the protagonist of a game down the road.  That would be awesome, and probably the only way I could imagine them finally making it canon.

[Killdren88]

I see the OGB as a companion in the future, that some people who did the DR will get and if not some other character.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

The OGB is canon, and he's the Inquisitor, Hawke and the Warden simultaneously, so thus some Wardens took part in their own conception. Conceptual inception. Confirmed by BioWare Jesus and stuff.

[veeia]

Jesus, Snook, put that stuff in spoiler tags!! Not evryone wants to know the Breach was caused by the Warden/OGB/hawke/Quizzie going back in time to have sex with themselves and breaking time itself?!

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Jesus, Snook, put that stuff in spoiler tags!! Not evryone wants to know the Breach was caused by the Warden/OGB/hawke/Quizzie going back in time to have sex with themselves and breaking time itself?!

Great Scott, I didn't realize I was this far back! Before anyone even knew! Now I have to go back again and assassinate past me to stop myself from posting the spoilers. Next I'll be posting that Flemeth is the OGB too.

[Spaghetti_Ninja]

I romanced Leliana on my Warden, so I'm wondering if she'll be upset when it's revealed I made a baby with Morrigan.  MAybe that's why she's so bitter and cold in Inquisition.

 

I don't see how she would even know, unless Morrigan is blabbing to everyone that the baby is his. The Warden is out of the picture in DA:I. She might find out somehow during the game, but seeing as they aren't even together anymore, I think the current state of the world does worse things for her disposition than an old lover having a baby with a witch to save his own life. She's a pragmatist too.

[dlux]

Search OGB on tumblr.

Hmmm, ok. 

 

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[Jeir]

I'm still trying to perfect my Keep timeline, and I'm getting stumped on the OGB question.  As a plot device, having an old god reborn into the world free of the darkspawn taint is just too good to pass up.  Even on my good characters, I really want to have the OGB. 

 

However, I'm a bit worried what reactions that will have on Leliana in DA:I... I romanced Leliana on my Warden, so I'm wondering if she'll be upset when it's revealed I made a baby with Morrigan.  MAybe that's why she's so bitter and cold in Inquisition.

 

Do you think BW will ever make it canon, or bring it up again in a significant way?

The closest Bioware has come to 'canon' is their 'default world state'. But, for you, why not have Alastair/secret companion do it instead of your Warden?

 

Hmm, I never thought of having the OGB as the protagonist of a game down the road.  That would be awesome, and probably the only way I could imagine them finally making it canon.

Not very awesome for a main game; it would restrict you to playing a male human

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(with a certain appearance as well, seeing the leaked stuff from the art book)

. As someone who never plays males...yeah, I'd have to skip it, as would other who only play females or don't like playing humans. A small expansion, perhaps, but nothing more.

[LightningPoodle]

I want to see the 10 year old , Old God Child sitting on a throne and being worshipped by thousands of people. It could happen, seeing as the Old Gods would talk to people through telepathy or whatever its called.

[AlexiaRevan]

canon would mean that everyone choice about their Li and warden....don't count no ? So no Thanx . 

 

Would it ever be mentioned? maybe...

 

Personally I dont see the fuss . I think the story between Morrigan and flemeth is more important then the god baby (who could be Harbinger!) 

[DeusGoddess5010]

I just dont understand how he will look dependsing on our races and ethnics or bioware has a fixed look for a human and old god child

[MrDbow]

...... why did I click the spoiler .....

[zwr63]

I think majority of fans will riot if theres no conclusion to OGB, But it doesn't have to be in DAI , there's no doubt in my mind there will be a least 1-2 more DA games and no telling how many books.

[Shark17676]

I wanna know if the devs actually had a plan with the OGB or if they had resolved to "figure it out later", because as interesting a plot development as it was at the time, it always seemed to me that they had written themselves into a corner with that one.

[zwr63]

I wanna know if the devs actually had a plan with the OGB or if they had resolved to "figure it out later", because as interesting a plot development as it was at the time, it always seemed to me that they had written themselves into a corner with that one.

Very much agree with you, this will haunt them until theres a good conclusion. The Warden / Morrigan story needs a epic ending.

[Gervaise]

I don't know about dwarves  but with an elf Warden the OGB would look human, so probably the same for the dwarf as well.   

 

The OGB is a definite choice in the Keep, so it may well be referenced in the game.   However, I imagine the storyline is more likely to be concluded in a novel or comic, if at all.   The OGB could certainly never be anything more than a side quest because he doesn't exist in many people's games and so there would equally be a riot by them if the OGB suddenly became a major plot character.

[zwr63]

I don't know about dwarves  but with an elf Warden the OGB would look human, so probably the same for the dwarf as well.   
 
The OGB is a definite choice in the Keep, so it may well be referenced in the game.   However, I imagine the storyline is more likely to be concluded in a novel or comic, if at all.   The OGB could certainly never be anything more than a side quest because he doesn't exist in many people's games and so there would equally be a riot by them if the OGB suddenly became a major plot character.

In DAO epilogue, even if you didn't do ritual or have a romance with Morrigan, Its states people witness seeing her and she appeared to be with child. Not that means anything, but theres a window there either way.
There should be some reference in game, the Devs will use Witch Hunt dlc as a canon (regardless if you played or not) she went into the Eluvian and returned, something had to happen. If she returned, your male Warden could have too.

[DanAxe]

I wanna know if the devs actually had a plan with the OGB or if they had resolved to "figure it out later", because as interesting a plot development as it was at the time, it always seemed to me that they had written themselves into a corner with that one.

 
Ofc they got a plan. They cant make it cannon cause you could choose to not have the baby in origins, but for those who did choose it:

 

(Sorry dunno how to do the spoiler thingie, but there's spoilers in the next paragraph)

 

Even tho the warden wont show up in Inquisition, he will at least be refered too, talked about, most likely with morrigan/leliana (you could choose to go thru the eluvian with Morrigan in Witch Hunt, so im sure she knows where the Warden is if you chose that path). Also, it seems a leak from a premature art book release in Russia shows an image of both Morrigan and her son, implying the OGB will be adressed in Inquisition. Im not saying we will get to know and see everything there is to know, but we will at least learn something new about it in Inquisition. And well... Its Morrigan... We know that whatever she is planning is related to her son (or her son related to her plan) and whatever she is doing in Inquisition will have something to do with it. As good as she might be (after a full love relationship with the Warden) she is still a Witch of the Wilds, with mistery plans that compete with Flemeth in secrecy and mistycism.

 

The OGB is probably too good a plot to be dismissed with just a few mentions and im sure it will be important in future games. I dont think the old gods are really dead, even if the archdemons have been defeated by Wardens. Somehow all of them (or at least a few) have survived either in the fade or by possessing other darkspawn. In order to become a Warden you need a drop of archdemon blood to do the Joining ritual, so where were the wardens when the first archdemon was defeated (Dumat) if there were no previous archdemons to get blood from?

[Spectre slayer]

In DAO epilogue, even if you didn't do ritual or have a romance with Morrigan, Its states people witness seeing her and she appeared to be with child. Not that means anything, but theres a window there either way.

There should be some reference in game, the Devs will use Witch Hunt dlc as a canon (regardless if you played or not) she went into the Eluvian and returned, something had to happen. If she returned, your male Warden could have too.

There's no window, that has been clarified time and time again by the devs including Gaider who has gone on the record numerous times and said that if you do not do the ritual then it's refused and there is no ogb.

There's a few different outcomes of the ending, the first is the dark ritual with any character that you choose, the second is the refuse ending where you romanced and or slept with her which grants you the normal child or she doesn't have one at all. Not sure why people keep thinking there's a window since they already addressed this.

As for him ever becoming canon, well that's most likely never going to happen since they've already confirmed what their canon is and the fact that a lot of people don't do the dr.

Also Gaider spoke out multiple times about that aswell and shot it down time and time again even going as far as saying that if they did that they would have to create different games for those who did and didn't do it. And according to him that's not something they can and will not do since it goes against multiple things including player agency.

The ogb will be brought up and be addressed at some point but maybe some people should lower their expectations about him until future games and thinking that he's going to be the focal point of the games.