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[Bayonet Hipshot]

So this is the description blurb for a Mage Trevelyan on Dragonage.com:- 

 

 

 

Born to the Trevelyan noble family of Ostwick in the Free Marches, you were originally intended for a life of privilege—until magical abilities surfaced at a young age and you were forced into a life of confinement within Ostwick's Circle of Magi. Protected but stifled, educated but isolated, the Circle would have been your entire future had the mages not rebelled against Chantry rule. Like it or not, you had to fight for your life against templars hunting down all "free" mages. You joined the delegation of mages attending a Chantry conclave in hopes of negotiating peace with the templars. It didn't go well.

 

This is the description blurb for a non-mage Trevelyan on Dragonage.com:-

 

 

 

As the youngest child of the Trevelyan noble house, you grew up in the Free Marcher city of Ostwick and have enjoyed a life of privilege. With close family ties to the Chantry, and many relatives among the priesthood and the templars, you were always expected to follow a similar path in service of the Maker—regardless of how you feel about the matter personally. Willing or unwilling, you were sent to the Chantry's conclave to assist relatives who sought to make peace between the templars and mages. It didn't go well.

 

So does this mean the Mage Trevelyan and the Non-Mage Trevelyan are different people. What I mean is that the Trevelyans are a powerful noble family with multiple children. 

 

Looking at the blurb, it seems to me that the Mage-Trevelyan can be any of the child from House Trevelyan, be it the eldest or the youngest but for the Non-Mage Trevelyan, your are locked into being the youngest child of the Trevelyan family. 

 

Is my viewpoint on this true or false ? 

[The Ascendant]

The phrasing on it does seem vague, but remember Hawke was always the eldest child of Malcolm and Leandra, regardless of class or gender. Why wouldn't it different for Trevelyan. By making us the youngest it allows more leeway when trying to describe the age of the Inquisitor. We can be in our late twenties or thirties and still be the youngest in the family.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

The phrasing on it does seem vague, but remember Hawke was always the eldest child of Malcolm and Leandra, regardless of class or gender. Why wouldn't it different for Trevelyan. By making us the youngest it allows more leeway when trying to describe the age of the Inquisitor. We can be in our late twenties or thirties and still be the youngest in the family.

 

Yes but the phrasing only applies for the Mage Trevelyan, not the Non-Mage. Which in some way makes sense since magical proficiency is not dependent on age, unlike warrior and rogue proficiency.

 

This was also seen in DA:O where the Human Mage, Amell, is I think, the eldest or the only child according to the Wiki whereas the Non-Human Mage, Cousland is the youngest. 

 

In DA2 this was changed where Hawke was eldest regardless of siblings.

 

My guess is that they are going with the way they did in DA:O when it comes to Human Mage vs Non-Human Mage. 

[Milan92]

Its a good question. Maybe someone can ask it on Twitter?

[The Ascendant]

Personally I like the idea as being the first born as a Mage but being denied our inheritance due to the Chantry's ban on mages holding power, it gives us personal motive to become something other than a Mage.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Its a good question. Maybe someone can ask it on Twitter?

 

I do not have Twitter so...

 

Personally I like the idea as being the first born as a Mage but being denied our inheritance due to the Chantry's ban on mages holding power, it gives us personal motive to become something other than a Mage.

 

Yep, same here. Also, it gives you more motivation if you as a mage Trevelyan want to give your family the middle finger and just do your own thing and be your own person as opposed to being a Chantry stooge.

 

I mean, in medieval days, the eldest of the nobility has the highest claim to things like throne, wealth and what have you so to be born as a mage and be cast out, effectively becoming a nobody, just like Amell did, is a great way to create different kinds of mage Trevelyans with different motives. You can have the rebel, I do not like my family for screwing my life mage Trevelyan or you can be the now I have a chance to prove myself and redeem myself as a Trevelyan with the Inquisition..

[Milan92]

Beign a mage Trevelyan has definitely alot of irony.

 

The mage of the family becomes the most powerful of them all at the end of the game

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Beign a mage Trevelyan has definitely alot of irony.

 

The mage of the family becomes the most powerful of them all at the end of the game

 

LOL that is true ! 

 

Trevelyan family :- "We are devout Andrastians, we follow the Chantry, we rule Ostwick, etc."

 

Mage Trevelyan :- "Bitches please ! I am the Herald of Andraste, I have magic powers and I command one of the most powerful independent organization in Thedas ! The best part of it all, you folks practically disowned me and here I am. How do you like them apples ?  "

[Tevinter Soldier]

well it sort of makes sense, as a mage takes years of study and magic manifests usually around puberty. one would expect a fully trained mage to be a bit older.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

well it sort of makes sense, as a mage takes years of study and magic manifests usually around puberty. one would expect a fully trained mage to be a bit older.

 

I actually have not thought of that. Yeah, barring exceptions, a fully harrowed Circle Mage like Trevelyan should be a bit older. 

[Milan92]

well it sort of makes sense, as a mage takes years of study and magic manifests usually around puberty. one would expect a fully trained mage to be a bit older.

 

Well, I don't know how old Connor was when his magic started to appear first.

[The Ascendant]

Well, I don't know how old Connor was when his magic started to appear first.

He was eight. I think the Warden was about 18-20 years old at the beginning of Origins. That's when apprentices normally go for their Harrowings.

[Han Shot First]

I'm guessing that warrior/rogue Trevelyan was a younger son or daughter, because they were shipped off to the Templars. 

[Tevinter Soldier]

Well, I don't know how old Connor was when his magic started to appear first.

 

usually conner was an exception, like that dreamer girl from da2

[Br3admax]

No, Connor was not an exception. Magic always appears at a young age, The Warden was at the Tower since they were six. Also realise that PCs are prodigies and Bethany was a fully trained mage at 18. Not to mention that the PC is in their twenties in DA:I.  The Mage Trevelyan can still be the youngest child. It just doesn't matter because they are no longer a "child of the house." Finally, Feynriel is a man. Just throwing that out their. His mother hid him from the Templars for years. 

[KC_Prototype]

To answer your question OP, I hope so. Then when you play as a warrior/rogue Trevelyan, you had a sibling who died in the Breach making the mission personal and same for if you play as a mage Trevelyan. 

[raging_monkey]

No, Connor was not an exception. Magic always appears at a young age, The Warden was at the Tower since they were six. Also realise that PCs are prodigies and Bethany was a fully trained mage at 18. Not to mention that the PC is in their twenties in DA:I.  The Mage Trevelyan can still be the youngest child. It just doesn't matter because they are no longer a "child of the house." Finally, Feynriel is a man. Just throwing that out their. His mother hid him from the Templars for years.

thought feyn was 16-19. Huh go figure

[herkles]

Here is a question. Are we actually part of the templars or chantry or in the training process when the peace confrence occurs? 

[Br3admax]

To answer your question OP, I hope so. Then when you play as a warrior/rogue Trevelyan, you had a sibling who died in the Breach making the mission personal and same for if you play as a mage Trevelyan. 

The multiple other family members already there doesn't? 

 

thought feyn was 16-19. Huh go figure

He called him "the dreamer girl."

 

Here is a question. Are we actually part of the templars or chantry or in the training process when the peace confrence occurs? 

Not likely. 

[raging_monkey]

Here is a question. Are we actually part of the templars or chantry or in the training process when the peace confrence occurs?

its stated that your there to assist family

[Magdalena11]

I think the reason birth order is mentioned at all is to make it clear that the inquisitor is not in line to inherit the title.  That doesn't need to be done with a mage, since no mage can inherit regardless of whether they have siblings or not.  This way they make it as flexible as possible to fit in with players' imaginations.

[KC_Prototype]

thought feyn was 16-19. Huh go figure

For me, I put my mage Amell and mage Surana at 16-19 as well. I just felt they go younger then 18 when doing the Harrowing sometimes. My Amell was 16 for me.

[KC_Prototype]

The multiple other family members already there doesn't? 

 

He called him "the dreamer girl."

 

Not likely. 

Yeah, there is other family members there which is enough but a brother dying is different than a third cousin dying.