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[Natureguy85]

you answered you own question at the end if you play the Orliesian warden what he did was very important

But the Warden him/herself is not, at least not compared to the Hero of Ferelden. .

[Natureguy85]

but i did play awakening but with the orlesian warden and if you don't touch those tiles the default ones will still port to the game what shows my warden doing them like i said its a fail on the devs side 

 

If you played Awakening with the Orlesian Warden, you didn't import the Origins file where your Warden lived, did you?

[Hexenkind23]

If you played Awakening with the Orlesian Warden, you didn't import the Origins file where your Warden lived, did you?

But his warden didn't die and he doesn't played awakening.
 

[Genuine UK]

If you played Awakening with the Orlesian Warden, you didn't import the Origins file where your Warden lived, did you?

your correct you don't import past game just like if the warden does the ultimate sacrifice and dies you don't import it because he magicly revives like he did't do it

[Hexenkind23]

I wonder: Can you import a save in which the warden died and you've never played awakening? What would be the outcome in dragon age 2?

[Etragorn]

Huh, I bet no one at Bioware ever thought someone would have a warden that survived the archdemon battle in DA:O but then actually choose to play the OW in Awakenings. In that scenario, not having the OW tile is a major issue.

 

Of course, Bioware should know by now, if it is a possibility, at least one person somewhere will do it (statistically speaking given the number of copies sold throughout the world it's essentially a guarantee that literally every possible combination was done somewhere by someone at some time)

[Genuine UK]

Huh, I bet no one at Bioware ever thought someone would have a warden that survived the archdemon battle in DA:O but then actually choose to place the OW in Awakenings. In that scenario, not having the OW tile is a major issue.

finally some one agrees lol

[Genuine UK]

I wonder: Can you import a save in which the warden died and you've never played awakening? What would be the outcome in dragon age 2?

if i remeber correctly you can but anders still references the architect just because of how da2 is

[Natureguy85]

Huh, I bet no one at Bioware ever thought someone would have a warden that survived the archdemon battle in DA:O but then actually choose to play the OW in Awakenings. In that scenario, not having the OW tile is a major issue.

 

Of course, Bioware should know by now, if it is a possibility, at least one person somewhere will do it (statistically speaking given the number of copies sold throughout the world it's essentially a guarantee that literally every possible combination was done somewhere by someone at some time)

 

Because that's not possible. Unless I am mistaken, you can't import a save with the Warden alive and use the Orlesian Warden. Therefore, those are basically two different playthroughs or two different universes. A surviving Warden is appointed Warden Commander by higher ups and therefore will go through the events of Awakening. It may be that Awakening was originally supposed to be just extra game play and not carry forward.

So while the scenario you paint would be an interesting option, I'm afraid that fate was sealed back when Awakening was released.

[Genuine UK]

Because that's not possible. Unless I am mistaken, you can't import a save with the Warden alive and use the Orlesian Warden. Therefore, those are basically two different playthroughs or two different universes. A surviving Warden is appointed Warden Commander by higher ups and therefore will go through the events of Awakening. It may be that Awakening was originally supposed to be just extra game play and not carry forward.

So while the scenario you paint would be an interesting option, I'm afraid that fate was sealed back when Awakening was released.

it is true the expansion had bugs and limations on importing save games thats why they made the keep i used Gibbed.DragonAge.SaveGenerator at the time to get around this and import it to DA2

[Natureguy85]

I don't think that was a bug. It was intended that if your Warden survived Origins, they become the Warden Commander for awakening. The Keep is not going to recognize or honor mods or hacks.

[Genuine UK]

I don't think that was a bug. It was intended that if your Warden survived Origins, they become the Warden Commander for awakening. The Keep is not going to recognize or honor mods or hacks.

i would say it is a bug as if you load the warden who did the ultimate sacrifice he is back alive

[Natureguy85]

I forget; does Awakening force you to import an Epilogue save? Can you save during the epilogue of a Warden who did the ultimate sacrifice? If not, you are importing a Warden that actually has not done the Sacrifice.You could call THAT a bug since it makes no sense to import a Warden who didn't finish Origins.

[Genuine UK]

I forget; does Awakening force you to import an Epilogue save? Can you save during the epilogue of a Warden who did the ultimate sacrifice? If not, you are importing a Warden that actually has not done the Sacrifice.You could call THAT a bug since it makes no sense to import a Warden who didn't finish Origins.

if i remember correctly you can import any save from Origins but can't do lets say witch hunt then come back to Awakeing but you can do origins to Witch Hunt and miss awakeing 

 

import order

1 Origins

2 Awakeing

3 Golems of Amgarrak

4 The Witch Hunt

[Natureguy85]

Now see, allowing you to import a save that hasn't finished Origins is rather silly. But that is what makes me thing that Awakening might not have originally been meant to carry much weight. That said, the existence of the Architect is kind of a big deal.

[Shelidon]

I wonder: Can you import a save in which the warden died and you've never played awakening? What would be the outcome in dragon age 2?

 

That's what I did: I played Awakening with the Orlesian Warden, but then I imported into DA2 the save from DA:O, since I didn't want to lose any choice I made in the first game. If I remember correctly, what happens is that you simply don't have any of the optional quests coming from Awakening.

[AshenEndymion]

I forget; does Awakening force you to import an Epilogue save? Can you save during the epilogue of a Warden who did the ultimate sacrifice? If not, you are importing a Warden that actually has not done the Sacrifice.You could call THAT a bug since it makes no sense to import a Warden who didn't finish Origins.

 

There are no epilogue saves for a Warden who did the Ultimate Sacrifice.  The last save for a US playthrough is the save right before you open the doors to the Archdemon.  This is the primary reason why the Warden is alive in Awakening if imported. Because s/he, technically, hadn't died at that point yet...

[Shelidon]

There are no epilogue saves for a Warden who did the Ultimate Sacrifice.  The last save for a US playthrough is the save right before you open the doors to the Archdemon.  This is the primary reason why the Warden is alive in Awakening if imported. Because s/he, technically, hadn't died at that point yet...

 

I'm sorry, you remember incorrectly: there is a save at the end of Origins, and you can import it into DA2 for instance. There you'll have your Ultimate Warden scenario along with every other particular choice you might have made.

The bugged thing with Awakening was that importing that ending automatically imported the character. It was a major design flaw, more than a bug, as plot variables sticked to the character instead of forming a saved game.

[Natureguy85]

Exactly. But people are going around saying it's an issue that their warden that did US is back for Awakening, when it's not. That's basically two different universes. That Warden didn't finish Origins.

 

But can that US epilogue save be imported to Awakening? I would think so if it's there.

[AshenEndymion]

I'm sorry, you remember incorrectly: there is a save at the end of Origins, and you can import it into DA2 for instance. There you'll have your Ultimate Warden scenario along with every other particular choice you might have made.

The bugged thing with Awakening was that importing that ending automatically imported the character. It was a major design flaw, more than a bug, as plot variables sticked to the character instead of forming a saved game.

 

So, what you're saying is, there's a post-epilogue autosave for a Ultimate Sacrifice Warden, in which you load the game in the party camp and can change equipment or do the DLCs?  That seems like as much of a glitch as the whole "US Warden alive in Awakening after import"...

[Natureguy85]

So, what you're saying is, there's a post-epilogue autosave for a Ultimate Sacrifice Warden, in which you load the game in the party camp and can change equipment or do the DLCs?  That seems like as much of a glitch as the whole "US Warden alive in Awakening after import"...

 

Well a save you can load in the game might not be the same as an import save you use in the next game. I think Mass Effect did it that way into Mass Effect 2. I was under the impression that anyone loading their US warden into Awakening was actually loading a save from before the US.

[Shelidon]

So, what you're saying is, there's a post-epilogue autosave for a Ultimate Sacrifice Warden, in which you load the game in the party camp and can change equipment or do the DLCs?

 

That's what I'm saying, yes. I don't know about DLCs such as Witch Hunt: I don't own additional content that actual takes place after the epilogue, but what I do know is that you can import that "zombie warden" both in Awakening (that's weird) and in DA2 (that's not weird and plays out just nicely, with the warden being dead and everything else kept in place).

[Johnny Shepard]

The main thing, for me, is the future reference of the Warden. He/She is mentioned and his/her presence felt in DA:I and they have said that the Warden will have more in a future game so the ones who did the US and want to continue the story should be able to with the Keep. The bug that prevented the US being loaded have made the US ending completely pointless because as it is now, it ends the whole Dragon Age series if the OW are suppose to not matter. The US decision are suppose to matter and that means that the Hero of Ferelden is dead and it was the OW that did Witch Hunt, disappeared years after, are mentioned in DA:I and will have a impact on future games unless they plan to revive the Hero of Ferelden.

There for it should be important who the OW was, what gender, what class aso. It seams, to me, that they might have forgotten that part. And since the default world state in DA:I are said to have the Warden make the US I just don't get how that could not be important.

 

If the Hero of Ferelden died then that Warden was more important, yes. But only to the past. The OW are important for the future!

[Natureguy85]

The main thing, for me, is the future reference of the Warden. He/She is mentioned and his/her presence felt in DA:I and they have said that the Warden will have more in a future game so the ones who did the US and want to continue the story should be able to with the Keep. The bug that prevented the US being loaded have made the US ending completely pointless because as it is now, it ends the whole Dragon Age series if the OW are suppose to not matter. The US decision are suppose to matter and that means that the Hero of Ferelden is dead and it was the OW that did Witch Hunt, disappeared years after, are mentioned in DA:I and will have a impact on future games unless they plan to revive the Hero of Ferelden.

There for it should be important who the OW was, what gender, what class aso. It seams, to me, that they might have forgotten that part. And since the default world state in DA:I are said to have the Warden make the US I just don't get how that could not be important.

 

If the Hero of Ferelden died then that Warden was more important, yes. But only to the past. The OW are important for the future!

 

That's a good point about a future references to the Warden to be the Orlesian Warden. I just think they should drop out if the Warden did the US. Unless you went through the Eluvian, what matters from Witch Hunt?

[Johnny Shepard]

That's a good point about a future references to the Warden to be the Orlesian Warden. I just think they should drop out if the Warden did the US. Unless you went through the Eluvian, what matters from Witch Hunt?

If it was the Hero of Ferelden or the OW that went through it.

 

As for the US, they mad a big deal about them respecting peoples choice in doing the US and promised to to take that away so the risk is that a lot of people would be really upset. Plus it would be cool to being able to do that world state. But in a way, it would have been best for future storylines if the US were gone so that the Warden would absolutely be alive and the OGB would exist no matter what so that they could make something big with that instead of just turning it in to some small sidequest.