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[Evamitchelle]

If it was the Hero of Ferelden or the OW that went through it.

 

As for the US, they mad a big deal about them respecting peoples choice in doing the US and promised to to take that away so the risk is that a lot of people would be really upset. Plus it would be cool to being able to do that world state. But in a way, it would have been best for future storylines if the US were gone so that the Warden would absolutely be alive and the OGB would exist no matter what so that they could make something big with that instead of just turning it in to some small sidequest.

 

The OW can't go through the eluvian because he couldn't have romanced Morrigan. This is currently possible in the Keep, but it's a bug. 

[Genuine UK]

The OW can't go through the eluvian because he couldn't have romanced Morrigan. This is currently possible in the Keep, but it's a bug. 

ye i agree OW should not go into the eluvian, didn't you have to keep morrigans ring she gives you in origins to do that anyway ?

[AlanC9]

That was my question. Does an OW have the same choices in WH?

[AshenEndymion]

That was my question. Does an OW have the same choices in WH?

 

The OW has the option to stab Morrigan or let her go.  Just like a female Hero of Ferelden or any Hero of Ferelden who didn't romance Morrigan.  Only a Warden that romances Morrigan has the ability to go through the Eluvian.

[Genuine UK]

The OW has the option to stab Morrigan or let her go.  Just like a female Hero of Ferelden or any Hero of Ferelden who didn't romance Morrigan.  Only a Warden that romances Morrigan has the ability to go through the Eluvian.

didn't you have to keep Morrigan ring on too, what she gives you when  romancing her ? i know she says somthing to you if u still have it in withc hunt

 

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my mistake you don't need the ring

As far I know, only three things are needed to go through the mirror with her:

1: The Warden must have been in a romance with her up until the end of Origins. Breaking up prior to the final battle means you can't go through with her.

 

2: The ritual must have been completed with the Warden, not Alistair or Loghain.

 

3: You need to pick the right dialogue choices. Save just before speaking to her at the end of Witch Hunt just in case you mess up. You need to talk to her until you get the option to say "take me with you".

Then you need to say either "Because I want to be with you. No matter what." or "Because I want to meet my son." It is possible to satisfy the first two conditions and still miss the third, if you pick the more aggressive dialogue choices.

If that happens, just reload and try the other dialogue branches until she says she needs to leave and the Warden gets the "take me with you" option.

 

The ring is unnecessary, though she will comment on it if you have it. As far as I know, all the other options, including whether or not Flemeth was "killed", have no impact on whether or not you can go through the mirror with her

 

[Natureguy85]

If it was the Hero of Ferelden or the OW that went through it.

 

As for the US, they mad a big deal about them respecting peoples choice in doing the US and promised to to take that away so the risk is that a lot of people would be really upset. Plus it would be cool to being able to do that world state. But in a way, it would have been best for future storylines if the US were gone so that the Warden would absolutely be alive and the OGB would exist no matter what so that they could make something big with that instead of just turning it in to some small sidequest.

 

Agreed. Whatever Morrigan and Flemeth had planned was too interesting and had all the story elements to be a big deal at some point. They may end up making that canon, I suppose. If it is used in a small way, I'll be pissed.

 

Oh and I'm pretty sure the Orlesian Warden going through the Illuvian is a bug and won't be recognized as a valid world-state. It wasn't supposed to happen.

[Diva Quinzel]

The main thing, for me, is the future reference of the Warden. He/She is mentioned and his/her presence felt in DA:I and they have said that the Warden will have more in a future game so the ones who did the US and want to continue the story should be able to with the Keep. The bug that prevented the US being loaded have made the US ending completely pointless because as it is now, it ends the whole Dragon Age series if the OW are suppose to not matter. The US decision are suppose to matter and that means that the Hero of Ferelden is dead and it was the OW that did Witch Hunt, disappeared years after, are mentioned in DA:I and will have a impact on future games unless they plan to revive the Hero of Ferelden.

There for it should be important who the OW was, what gender, what class aso. It seams, to me, that they might have forgotten that part. And since the default world state in DA:I are said to have the Warden make the US I just don't get how that could not be important.

 

If the Hero of Ferelden died then that Warden was more important, yes. But only to the past. The OW are important for the future!

What you're saying here is the exact reason for why I find the OW so Important, if my Warden did the US and the one they're gonna be talking about in future games is the OW then I want a say in their gender and race.
It makes me sad to know that the warden will play some kind of role in DAI but I won't get to decide who the OW will be... 
Creating a world state where the Warden did the US just feels pointless in that case. 

[Natureguy85]

What you're saying here is the exact reason for why I find the OW so Important, if my Warden did the US and the one they're gonna be talking about in future games is the OW then I want a say in their gender and race.
It makes me sad to know that the warden will play some kind of role in DAI but I won't get to decide who the OW will be... 
Creating a world state where the Warden did the US just feels pointless in that case. 

 

I'd rather they dropped the OW out of the picture so the Warden from Origins stays more important to people. That said, they can't punish people for doing the US if they want the Warden to matter later.

[AlanC9]

Oh and I'm pretty sure the Orlesian Warden going through the Illuvian is a bug and won't be recognized as a valid world-state. It wasn't supposed to happen.

Then they'd better lock that world-state out in the Keep.

[thedancingdruid]

That was my question. Does an OW have the same choices in WH?

 

Yes! I just set up a fake world in the Keep. It is possible to select the following: Male Surana, Morrigan Romance, US, Morrigan Did not Have OGB and Went through the Eluvian.

 

And there goes absolutely any confidence I have of the DLC NOT being attributed to the HoF...that's just great.

[Genuine UK]

as bioware given a reason on why the Orlesian Warden was not added to the keep, i know some posters think it may have been to much work, but they most have made a story arc of all possible out comes with in the games before starting doing anything i guess i would just like bioware to respond on this topic

[Evamitchelle]

as bioware given a reason on why the Orlesian Warden was not added to the keep, i know some posters think it may have been to much work, but they most have made a story arc of all possible out comes with in the games before starting doing anything i guess i would just like bioware to respond on this topic

 

The devs said that they will eventually add the Orlesian Warden, but not before launch. I assume it means it is rather complicated to do, otherwise they could do it before launch. 

[Genuine UK]

The devs said that they will eventually add the Orlesian Warden, but not before launch. I assume it means it is rather complicated to do, otherwise they could do it before launch. 

i would like to know the reason why it was not added in the first place but i guess as long as there adding the Orlesian Warden i can live with that as long as eventually is not 5+ months away

[QueenPurpleScrap]

Maybe they could at least come up with a confirmation tile for your Awakening warden? That is, if your Warden did the Ultimate Sacrifice you'll get a generic tile indicating that the First sent a Warden from Orlais to Amaranthine. If your Warden is alive and well the choice in this tile defaults to "You are the new Warden-Commander of Ferelden."

 

I suppose you could choose the OW for Awakening regardless, but at least your choice is represented even if your OW isn't imported right away. Once they fix the Witch Hunt choices then the flow will make sense.

 

I have a US warden and even though I spent time in the cc to make my OW look the way I want I'd be happy enough to just have a text tile in the Awakening section. It's a matter of clarity for me. I don't need to have her imported.

[AlanC9]

Yes! I just set up a fake world in the Keep. It is possible to select the following: Male Surana, Morrigan Romance, US, Morrigan Did not Have OGB and Went through the Eluvian.
 
And there goes absolutely any confidence I have of the DLC NOT being attributed to the HoF...that's just great.

Only thing to do at this point is to keep reporting it as a bug, I guess.

[thedancingdruid]

Only thing to do at this point is to keep reporting it as a bug, I guess.

 

I think the only thing to do at this point, unless there is confirmation from BioWare regarding the Awakening and Witch Hunt confusion is not to import an Ultimate Sacrifice Warden into Inquisition. I really did not want to have to go that route the first time, but I'm not willing to take the chance of ruining the memory of my hero.

[Genuine UK]

I think the only thing to do at this point, unless there is confirmation from BioWare regarding the Awakening and Witch Hunt confusion is not to import an Ultimate Sacrifice Warden into Inquisition. I really did not want to have to go that route the first time, but I'm not willing to take the chance of ruining the memory of my hero.

i think you may miss understand how how the keep works the only importing that happens is the Name of the character nothing more then that if you imported you character that did the Ultimate Sacrifice it would not stop you from doing a new World in the keep when/if they add Orlesian Warden.

 

i would just like bioware to make a post say they made a mistake and where going to add the Orlesian Warden at first opportunity they get

[Kantr]

i think you may miss understand how how the keep works the only importing that happens is the Name of the character nothing more then that if you imported you character that did the Ultimate Sacrifice it would not stop you from doing a new World in the keep when/if they add Orlesian Warden.

 

i would just like bioware to make a post say they made a mistake and where going to add the Orlesian Warden at first opportunity they get

The OW is a lot trickier to add as they've then got to add a second hero picker and make sure it can't be used for the previous tiles.

It might turn out to be too much work to properly implement

[Etragorn]

Does anyone even know the OW's last name?

[AshenEndymion]

Does anyone even know the OW's last name?

 
Here's the list of the Orlesian Warden Commander's default names(last names unchangable)(Obtained from the wiki):

Given names (default):

Male:

Human: Gerod Caron
Elven: Elyon Andras
Dwarven: Eram Kader

 

Female:

Human: Leonie Caron
Elven: Sidona Andras
Dwarven: Nika Kader

[Evamitchelle]

Does anyone even know the OW's last name?

 

The OW's name is Caron for a human, Andras for an elf and Kader for a dwarf, but there's not way to know who's the default OW in the Keep. 

[Etragorn]

I can see why they say it is so complicated then, that's adding 6 more defaults, plus supporting customs.

[AlanC9]

I think the only thing to do at this point, unless there is confirmation from BioWare regarding the Awakening and Witch Hunt confusion is not to import an Ultimate Sacrifice Warden into Inquisition. I really did not want to have to go that route the first time, but I'm not willing to take the chance of ruining the memory of my hero.

Well, nobody's forcing us to select imposdible choices in the Keep.

I'm kind of tempted to select a US Warden with "goes through the eluvian" just to see how incoherent Morrigan's dialogue gets.

[Natureguy85]

Well, nobody's forcing us to select imposdible choices in the Keep.

I'm kind of tempted to select a US Warden with "goes through the eluvian" just to see how incoherent Morrigan's dialogue gets.

 

Ha, don't be surprised if the game won't let you, even if the Keep doesn't catch the problem right now.

[Senjougahara Hitagi]

The whole notion of OW being able to "participate" in Witch hunt is a silly thing in the first place.