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[Fardreamer]

There have been threads made by a certain member who usually sounds like a petulant child, and the discussion usally boils down to "Quit whining, bla bla bla."

 

However, there is still the mystery of what happened to the Hero of Fereldon or the Orlesian Warden Commander.  For many of us, our Warden survived the battle with the Archdemon.  For those of you whose Warden didn't survive, there is the Orlesian Warden who undertook the events of Awakening, Witch Hunt, and Golems of Andralmach. 

 

Dragon Age 2 made an ominous reference to this character when Leliana is talking to Cassandra at the end saying something along the lines "The Champion has vanished, just like the Warden." And then "I have no doubt they will return when they are needed."  Even the end of the epilogue of Awakening says something about the Warden Commander going on command the Grey Wardens for some time before leaving for other adventures.

 

So now we're going to see a return of Hawke in DA:I... but where is the Warden?  He needs to be brought back in some way, because his story needs closure.  It is ridiculous to think that a character as influential and powerful as the Warden is simply not present for the world shattering events of Inquistion.

 

Now, I'm not saying that the Warden or Hawke should be the heroes of Inquistition, or even play a MAJOR role.  They should simply be present because they are the leaders of their respective groups.  Their stories should get a nod.  Hawke is getting his nod... why not the Warden?

[Navoletti]

I Agree we need a decent closure for the more important hero of thedas not only a very poor state of disappear.

[veeia]

If there was an unvoiced, Warden as protag game...I think everyone would be cool with it, even if to me it seems unneccesary. Possibly even a voiced one, if the DAI voiced stuff turns out as nicely as it's looking.

Not player controlled and voiced....no way. Toooooo many variables. Problematic.

[Doll]

I also agree that there needs to be a bit more closure to both the Warden and Hawke's stories, however I get the feeling that the most they'll get will be a reference. Maybe an inclusion in a mission, but nothing that we'll see them in. (For the Warden at least, Hawke is all over the trailers now.)

 

I'm just hoping they don't just write them off as dead or something, or that they went for the Calling, because for the people who went to the trouble of keeping their Wardens alive they deserve more than an off-screen death.

[Han Shot First]

It is possible that the Warden will return during the course of DA:I, but that the return will happen off screen. They did say that the Warden will get significant mention without actually appearing. Maybe the Warden's return is linked to one or more War Table missions.

[LaughingWolf]

I think it's fair the way it is now.

If you did the Dark Ritual this is the consequence. You don't get closure.

Your Warden either dies the hero's death, or survives and vanishes never to be seen again.

[themageguy]

Maybe the warden will show up in the next game.

Im cool with it.

[veeia]

I think the game will offer some closue to the Warden's story without showing them...which is perfect, imo.

 

I've said it before and I'll say it again. I am not anti-Warden or anti more stories that the Warden shows up in, in theory. If anyone can explain to me a way that they could use the Warden as a voiced NPC and accurately capture most people's characters while using them in a meaningful way, please do so, and I'll change my tune on it. But I honestly think it would be impossible to do, and everyone would freak out and hate it. 

[Fardreamer]

I think it's fair the way it is now.

If you did the Dark Ritual this is the consequence. You don't get closure.

Your Warden either dies the hero's death, or survives and vanishes never to be seen again.

 

I didn't do the Dark Ritual and my Warden survived, because I spared Loghain and let him find redemption by landing the final blow on the Archdemon.

[I SOLD MY SOUL TO BIOWARE]

Really, my main problem with the Warden not showing up is that I fear his/her story is going to feel very...incomplete now.

They pulled the Warden out of retirement. They made them vanish just like Hawke. But then, only Hawke appears. Hawke will probably get some decent closure. But I don't quite trust an off-screen appearance to wrap up the Warden in a satisfying manner.

I really like my Warden. I want her to have some closure. Now I'm not sure she will.

[Fardreamer]

I think the game will offer some closue to the Warden's story without showing them...which is perfect, imo.

 

I've said it before and I'll say it again. I am not anti-Warden or anti more stories that the Warden shows up in, in theory. If anyone can explain to me a way that they could use the Warden as a voiced NPC and accurately capture most people's characters while using them in a meaningful way, please do so, and I'll change my tune on it. But I honestly think it would be impossible to do, and everyone would freak out and hate it. 

 

I really don't mind them adding a voice to the Warden as long as the personality is overall the same as I made it. 

 

I think my main desire for actually seeing the Warden make an appearance is because having a scene where the Warden, the Champion, and the Inquisitor all meet face to face would be so damn epic.  I've designed all my characters in a way which I would think would make them friends if they ever met.  That's why I had a nerdgasm when I saw Hawke's appearance in once of the trailers.

[Ser Jynx]

I always thought it kinda badass for a hero to disappear after they finished business.

 

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[Han Shot First]

I think the game will offer some closue to the Warden's story without showing them...which is perfect, imo.

 

I've said it before and I'll say it again. I am not anti-Warden or anti more stories that the Warden shows up in, in theory. If anyone can explain to me a way that they could use the Warden as a voiced NPC and accurately capture most people's characters while using them in a meaningful way, please do so, and I'll change my tune on it. But I honestly think it would be impossible to do, and everyone would freak out and hate it. 

 

The Warden isn't going to return in DA:I obviously, and I'm actually fine with never seeing the Warden again so long as the disappearing act at least gets resolved off screen. But I think I Bioware does have options if it wanted to bring the Warden back in a future DA game. I think you'd just need to give players the option to recreate their DA:O Warden, or something close enough to him/her, in the next game's character creator. And like DA:I and the Inquisitor, allow the player to choose between at least two different voice actors per gender. They'd probably also need to do something like they do with Hawke in the keep, and ask you to select between three different personality types.

 

That wouldn't please everyone, but I think it would please enough that they could have the Warden return in a cameo (like in Hawke in DA:I) without causing a major backlash. I think most people would probably be satisfied with that.

[veeia]

I really don't mind them adding a voice to the Warden as long as the personality is overall the same as I made it. 

 

I think my main desire for actually seeing the Warden make an appearance is because having a scene where the Warden, the Champion, and the Inquisitor all meet face to face would be so damn epic.  I've designed all my characters in a way which I would think would make them friends if they ever met.  That's why I had a nerdgasm when I saw Hawke's appearance in once of the trailers.

 

I feel that. And it would be awesome, in theory. I just don't know how they could do it. Heck, I'm even nervous about my Hawke showing up, and she's a lot easier to characterize given the tone system. 

[Darkly Tranquil]

I'm fine with leaving it open ended. I rather people be free to headcanon their own ending than finish up with an unsatisfying official ending.

[AresKeith]

I always thought it kinda badass for a hero to disappear after they finished business.

 

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I actually didn't like that with Ike in Fire Emblem

[Remmirath]

Honestly, I'm far happier with off-screen mentions than I would be with a cameo appearance. The only way that I would actually like to see our characters from previous games return would be if we are playing them again, and it does not seem likely at all that this will happen. I'm even rather concerned about how it will go with the Champion, and that character was already voiced and already had the dominant tone affecting cutscenes, so it's less likely that they will end up doing something out of character.

If the Warden is to come back at some point, and not be playable by us, the very least that I would want would be the ability to choose from several personality options (preferably more nuanced ones than 'aggressive' 'sarcastic' and 'diplomatic'), the ability to control what they look like, and if they must have voice acting to have it correspond to the various voices that could be selected in DA:O (even if that would run the risk of my favourite Warden complaining about ladders on his back constantly whenever encountered). I would also hope that such an encounter would balance on the fine line between being important enough to include but not being important enough that I would really want to be playing the character at that moment.

Long story short, I would rather see and hear nothing at all from my old PCs than have them show up as NPCs.

[Face of Evil]

How I envision the Warden's return:



But maybe as a boss fight.

[Ser Jynx]

I actually didn't like that with Ike in Fire Emblem

Too bad for you then.

[Orctavius]

I felt pretty satisfied with my Warden's stories after DA:O and its expansions.  The last scene in throne room and the subsequent epilogues did an excellent job presenting my wardens' futures.  On the other hand, the reveal at the end of DA2 that the warden had gone "missing" was ill-considered and created an unneeded sense of unfinished business. 

[veeia]

Yeah I'll agree that the da2 ending does present some issues, which is presumably why the warden will come up in inquisition.

[AresKeith]

Too bad for you then.

 

Not really, since Ike is one of my least favorite Fire Emblem characters

[LaughingWolf]

I didn't do the Dark Ritual and my Warden survived, because I spared Loghain and let him find redemption by landing the final blow on the Archdemon.

I mean that more as a joke but whatever.
In all seriousness, I'd like Bioware to do DLC regarding closure for the Hero of Fereldan or Orelsian Warden Commander.

[Ser Jynx]

Not really, since Ike is one of my least favorite Fire Emblem characters

Why would you respond then?

 

On topic: We don't really need to see the Warden again, we have imagination.