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[ElementalFury106]

LOL holy crap I cried how the "certain member who sounds like a petulant child" you mentioned is the first one to reply to this thread

 

On a more serious note, I can't think of any idea that would make sense of how they would finish up the Warden's story. It's kind of their fault for leaving it so ambiguously. The ideal thing would've been to make the final DLC/Expansion for DA:O to be "The Calling" where, you guessed it, it's several years into the future and it's time for the Warden's calling (if they never did the ultimate sacrifice).

 

Doesn't have to mention any politics or world events, just the Warden and a small company of soldiers (likely Dwarves) in the deep roads out to kill darkspawn. Could've had some cool final companions like a legion of the dead scout, a golem, maybe even Alistair/Loghain. Could've given the Warden a nice epic end we all know is awaiting them.

[Razored1313]

Honestly, I just want them to resolve the disappearance of the warden and never bring up what s/he is doing again. Mention they existed, talk about what they accomplished, have returning LI mention them, but please just let them retire with a decent ending, like they had by the end of witch hunt or origins base game. It's clear that the warden is going to be the most difficult protagonist to bring back, as he was created when bioware didn't know if there would be sequels to DAO, added with the silent protagonist, and the multitude of ways to play them, makes it next to impossible to please everyone. I'm fine with their disappearance being resolved without an appearance, so long as it's actually resolved. I'm also a minority in the belief that they should just give us a dlc with the warden facing his/her calling...I love my warden but I would just like to give him some closure one way or the other.

On a more serious note, I can't think of any idea that would make sense of how they would finish up the Warden's story. It's kind of their fault for leaving it so ambiguously. The ideal thing would've been to make the final DLC/Expansion for DA:O to be "The Calling" where, you guessed it, it's several years into the future and it's time for the Warden's calling (if they never did the ultimate sacrifice

I think it's mentioned in the lore that wardens who are active during a blight have a shorter lifespan, so they wouldn't even have to go far into the future if they wanted they could kill them off at any point since the lifespan is 10-30 years after initiation for wardens not involved in the blight. Also apparently this idea isn't as unpopular as I expected XD

Modifié par Razored1313, 03 novembre 2014 - 05:34 .

[n7stormrunner]

How I envision the Warden's return:



But maybe as a boss fight.

 

 

actually that is about right... should be ghoul not walking corpse though.

 

 

and no, no matter what they did. even just the warden's calling people would freak out. so it best if we find out the warden died somehow or just never come back though the mirror. no wait actually it's best they never speak of him/her again.

[metatheurgist]

There is no mystery. He just retired after doing more in 2 years than most people do in 10 lifetimes. However, when people that are that larger than life retreat from the public the masses can't accept it, so they make up stories to cover the loss they feel.

The Warden is DA's Elvis.

[Parkimus]

I want to see my Warden(s) again but I understand that due to all the variables and other issues (no voice, trampling on players' headcanon, etc.), it would be very difficult. And as the series continues, it will only become more difficult to include the Warden as more and more questions (some of which may or may not come up in DA:I) will need to be answered, such as "What the f*ck have you been doin' since Witch Hunt, wo/man?"

 

Since I doubt the Warden will feature heavily in future games, I'd be content with having our Warden as a customizable character in the multiplayer. Since the characters in the MP are part of the Inquisition, the story explaining the Warden's presence can simply be "S/he's the Grey Warden representative helping out the Inquisition". I admit it's not an ideal solution, but having the Warden as a playable character in the MP means that s/he could get by without saying anything since (I presume) the MP won't be that story-heavy overall. I imagine there won't be a dialogue wheel, or character-focused cinematic scenes, etc. What happens in the MP probably isn't canon anyways, so I don't really see the harm in adding the Warden in that.

 

Anyways, that's just my opinion. It's late, I'm tired, and I'm a coughing, phlegm-y mess right now so forgive me if my ideas don't make much sense.

[Fardreamer]

I actually don't mind the idea of a Calling expansion. It's the fitting and inevitable end for my good Warden. I imagine he'd be joined by Alistair. A few generic legionnaires would round out the part too.

However, one big problem with that ending is for the players, usually who played an evil Warden, want their warden to survive. When I played my evil mage Warden, I specifically left Avernus alive and told him to continue his research, simply because he lived so long, and I wanted to as well.

[wtfman99]

Other variables could be Avernus and his research, I kept him around in hopes he could get my warden out of the calling

[Fardreamer]

sigh, the warden got DAO,an expansion pack, and 5 dlc. Hawke only got DA2 and two DlC and a cancelled expansion pack. Exalted March was put into DAI, and logically so was Hawke. Hawkes story was left unfinished, so they are obviously finishing it in Inquisition. The Warden has had plenty of screen time,and the main part of their story is done.
The warden was cool, but it's time to (dare I say it) Let It Go.

It WOULD have been fine, if they didn't dig him up again at the end of DA2. Most people probably would have assumed he went on his calling or his own way, but because they opened the door in ominous way which was obviously hinting at future content, everyone wants to see why.

[n7stormrunner]

It WOULD have been fine, if they didn't dig him up again at the end of DA2. Most people probably would have assumed he went on his calling or his own way, but because they opened the door in ominous way which was obviously hinting at future content, everyone wants to see why.

 

 

 

I'm sorry to tell you no, most people did not assume he went on his calling, many are still in denial the dragon age isn't about the warden but about thedas. hell you can tell just by reading this thread some think he got out of the calling period.   

[AlanC9]

Even if they hadn't mentioned the Warden at the end of DA2, we'd be seeing threads like this.

[Razored1313]

While I'm sure that there would be people who wanted the warden to be the star even if he wasn't mentioned, I can at least speak for myself and say that I would not be a part of that group in that scenario. However as it stands they undid the closure I had with the warden by mentioning his disappearance and then claiming that it was no coincidence both disappeared setting up some kind of continuation. like I mentioned elsewhere for now I'm reserving judgement until I see what they do with the warden in inquisition (I'm aware he isn't showing up, but they said we might find out why he disappeared) but I don't consider people wanting to see him invalid until they resolve his ending dilemma, and if the situations were reversed and hawke wasn't showing up while the warden was I would be expressing the same desire for them as I do for the warden.

[puppyofwar]

I think the warden has became the largest can of worms in DA universe, no matter what Bioware choose to do with Him/Her or portray them in some way,  someone is going to protest/butthurt...etc.

 

My personal preference is to leave their fate vague, so everyone can headcanon what they like.

[Absafraginlootly]

I felt pretty satisfied with my Warden's stories after DA:O and its expansions.  The last scene in throne room and the subsequent epilogues did an excellent job presenting my wardens' futures.  On the other hand, the reveal at the end of DA2 that the warden had gone "missing" was ill-considered and created an unneeded sense of unfinished business. 

This pretty much. I was quite content to never see my warden again as I felt the endings of DAO and DAO:A wrapped things us nicely for me, but then the end of DA2 left everything feeling suddenly unresolved.

 

I don't think much of the idea of making a Warden npc - its seems it would be a lot harder to not make them ooc then it would for Hawke.

 

I like the idea of giving the Warden a series of war table missions. That way you get to know what they're doing and get things a bit resolved without actually seeing the character onscreen. I wouldn't want to play another game with the Warden, but a little dlc just to finish off the dangling thread thats been left (or a calling), that I could get behind.

[Revan Reborn]

This has actually been discussed quite a bit and DG even weighed in on the discussion. What he stated was that the discussion at the end of DA2 was meant to be potential "sequel bait" and that it posed a possibility of the future. The game never specifically alludes to what role the Warden would have, and in what capacity he/she would be involved. What we do know is that the Warden will have a presence in DAI to some degree, but will not make an appearance. I'm willing to cut BioWare some slack until I play the game myself and see what questions they have answered about the Warden.

 

If I find those answers to be unsatisfactory, then I will expect a followup on BioWare's part to truly bring that chapter to a close. For now, I suggest we just sit tight and see what BioWare has in store for us. Hawke's larger role in the game makes sense because he was involved at the beginning of the Mage-Templar War and his story at the end of DA2 was left unresolved. The Warden's purpose isn't as clear, largely because his priorities go towards hunting down the Darkspawn in the Deep Roads and searching for Old Gods.

[veeia]

I don't want a Calling expansion, that sounds extremely unsatisfying and awful. I know my Warden dies eventually and I don't have a desire to have her untainted (well I do but I mean that's not something I'd ask made canon or anything) but no. Plus my Warden isn't the type to want a glorious heroic death or whatever. Unless she was forced to, I think she'd much rather prefer a glass of wine spiked with poison.

[Fardreamer]

I don't want a Calling expansion, that sounds extremely unsatisfying and awful. I know my Warden dies eventually and I don't have a desire to have her untainted (well I do but I mean that's not something I'd ask made canon or anything) but no. Plus my Warden isn't the type to want a glorious heroic death or whatever. Unless she was forced to, I think she'd much rather prefer a glass of wine spiked with poison.

 

Some commander of the heroic Grey Wardens you turned out to be...   Haha, just joking.

 

My self-serving Warden never intends to go on a Calling either.  Leaving Avernus to his research with no restrictions and making deals with demons seems a good way to live forever...

[Reznore57]

IMHO the story of the warden is done , he/she dealt with the Blight , solved political problems in Ferelden , dealt with the Architect etc...

The last plot hanging was the OGB , and in Witch Hunt , the warden pass the torch to Morrigan.

She's the one preparing for "changes" , who will face Flemeth , etc...

Whatever consequences of the Dark Ritual or no DR , it's her story now.

 

Hawke ,on the other hand ,open up a tons of new plots.His /Her story as the Champion of Kirkwall is done but it's a bit silly he/she discover red lyrium , a forgotten thaig the warden were curious about , was part of the mage/templar war , released a very dangerous darkspawn on the world...And what  he/she is just going to end up eating ice cream on a beach somewhere?

[sylvanaerie]

I'm fine with leaving it open ended. I rather people be free to headcanon their own ending than finish up with an unsatisfying official ending.

 

I have a head canon of my warden retiring in Redcliffe, helping to rebuild after the Blight, maybe opening up a small school (she's a mage) and fighting off the occasional bandit/darkspawn that pop up.  She spends her days fishing and evenings in the Grey Warden's Rest inn run by the lovely Bella listening to stories.  

 

She 'disappears' because she wants to be 'invisible'.  One day soon she will go to her Calling and when she goes down into the Deep Roads one last time, her story is over.

 

It's been 10 years, not all wardens get 30 years.  I imagine activity plays a large part in the course of their taint.  The Blight might have sped up that timetable.  I don't know.  

 

And even more, I don't care.  IMO the warden is done.  If I never see her again, I'll be content.  Even codices or mention would monkey with the sendoff for her I have in my head.

[n7stormrunner]

I have a head canon of my warden retiring in Redcliffe, helping to rebuild after the Blight, maybe opening up a small school (she's a mage) and fighting off the occasional bandit/darkspawn that pop up.  She spends her days fishing and evenings in the Grey Warden's Rest inn run by the lovely Bella listening to stories.  

 

She 'disappears' because she wants to be 'invisible'.  One day soon she will go to her Calling and when she goes down into the Deep Roads one last time, her story is over.

 

It's been 10 years, not all wardens get 30 years.  I imagine activity plays a large part in the course of their taint.  The Blight might have sped up that timetable.  I don't know.  

 

And even more, I don't care.  IMO the warden is done.  If I never see her again, I'll be content.  Even codices or mention would monkey with the sendoff for her I have in my head.

 

 

it has been confirmed wardens made during the blight tend to be shorter lived. the warden's and maybe alistair's should be coming up any minute now.  

[DooomCookie]

DA:O was the Warden's story and it gave them 100% closure.  We were told exactly what happened in the epilogue and we could happily construct our headcanon around it.  As such, I'm rather annoyed that the writers chose to bring that plot arc back from the dead.  Excessively long plot arcs are one of my big pet peeves and it looks like the Warden may well fall foul of this.

 

That aside, there is still the issue of how we're going to have a voiced character that will not behave like our warden.  Our warden's behaviour isn't headcanon: it's actually canon.  If the Warden starts doing stuff out of character, it would be awful.  As much as I love and trust Bioware, I can't see how it's possible to emulate the millions of different Wardens that were made.

 

The only thing I can see happening is a major character change.  The warden turns into a ghoul and we have to fight them.  They fall into a vat of Lyrium and sh*t happens.  They are captured and turned into an abomination.  Even then, there is the possibility of contradiction.  What if our Warden was a reluctant hero and would avoid his Calling?  I'd be okay with this route, but I suspect some people might be not like Bioware reclaiming a character that was, for the first game, essentially ours.

[Bhaal]

The Warden get the best closure(s). Defeated her Nemesis, saved the world. He way even become the king/queen or the marty. If he survived the first game then she simply becomes the warden commander. I believe enough is enough.

 

Though i can understand the problem. Since such an extraordinary character is still alive during such extraordinary times there should be an explanition about why he's not saving world and taking the names again.

[dsl08002]

I found that in the ending of DA2 that warden and Hawke would join forces and cooperate in a adventure.

So when i sat there in my couch finishing DA2 my first thoughts were this:

"There is going to be another adventure. YES." So you can imagine my disappointment later

But i can be bold enough to say that it would be very few protest if they brought the warden back as PC.

[Brelakor]

I would like some kind of closure about what happens to the Warden and his/her love interests (if applicable), doesn't need to involve the Warden being on screen... I would be happy with it being told by other characters, like Leliana or Alistair, or letters or news that the Inquisitor reads/hears during their travels... might even be kinda cool if the Inquisitor stumbles upon some clues about the Warden and then has to put the pieces together or something I don't really mind so long as I can find out what happened to my Wardens one way or another

Of course if I don't get to find out what happens to my Wardens I'll probaby just make it up myself, but I think for certain Wardens it feels much more relevant for the DAI storyline to know what they are doing (for example my Cousland that marries Alistair or Anora might hold some political significance in DAI, whereas my Surana that romanced Zevran is probably less important)

But, ehh, either way I will make do, lol

[Fardreamer]

What happened to the Warden and his LIs is very important to me too. I romanced Leliana on my good Warden and Morrigan on my self-serving one. Both of them make major appearances in DA:I. It's already messing my head canon that they're not with my Warden at this moment.

Zevran and Alistair both appeared in DA2 if you romanced them also. So we've seen all of the Warden's potential LIs show up with no explanation as to where he/she is, and why he's not with them...