I have played all the games, and have red almost every book. Never have I encountered anything about templars going bandit.
You haven't played DA:I (and I'm assuming you haven't watched a lot of the recent pre-release videos). There's also this excerpt released almost six months ago:
"Now we've got apostates running around setting fire to anyone who looks at them sideways, and templars looting houses and cutting down those who protest as mage sympathizers."
Mages are pretty much like walking ticking bombs that could go off anytime and blow anyone in their proximity. I don't know about you but I'm not comfortable having a ticking bomb near my person walking freely:-).
Oh wow, people are still saying that as if it only applies to mages.
Oh wow, people are still saying that as if it only applies to mages.
Because it does as far i didn't meet single person that could destroy my whole city.
meredeaths bull**** may have not been magical but she did start alot of fires lolBecause it does as far i didn't meet single person that could destroy my whole city.
Oh wow, people are still saying that as if it only applies to mages.
You're saying it doesn't ? please elaborate.
meredeaths bull**** may have not been magical but she did start alot of fires lol
Meredith was corrupted by red lyrium , which also has magic involved , coincidence? i think not .
all red lyrium does is amp one's issues meredeath didnt know. It was all "oh its red and shiny " XDMeredith was corrupted by red lyrium , which also has magic involved , coincidence? i think not .
Oh wow, people are still saying that as if it only applies to mages.
Which is one of the things mages rebelled over in the first place.
A minority among a minority.
Sad as it is.
I pity the mage situation; but their rebellion will be crushed for their own betterment if need be.
curious why pity. Your man of order to some this is disorder?A minority among a minority.
Sad as it is.
I pity the mage situation; but their rebellion will be crushed for their own betterment if need be.
Well, you can. But that involves tranquillity. Which is one of the things mages rebelled over in the first place.
Not really.
curious why pity. Your man of order to some this is disorder?
The mages for the most part did not wish to go to war; it was the actions of a few, a few extremists that forced them to do it.
Without those extremists there would be no war, the system would not be unbalanced and this chaos wouldn't exist in the first place.
So yes; i do pity the mages who were dragged into fighting against a force they had no issue with, for reasons they didn't care about, for people they might have never even heard of.
huh interestingThe mages for the most part did not wish to go to war; it was the actions of a few, a few extremists that forced them to do it.
Without those extremists there would be no war, the system would not be unbalanced and this chaos wouldn't exist in the first place.
So yes; i do pity the mages who were dragged into fighting against a force they had no issue with, for reasons they didn't care about, for people they might have never even heard of.
No i don't.
I really don't need to point out the one government ran by mages beyond the Dalish harming normal people every single day, its pretty common knowledge how sh*tty Tevinter is.
But i do point out how many people are harmed by magic, mages, demons and alike, all of which could have been prevented had they been locked away from the populace.
locking them away didn't work, we're going in circles hear.......... oh lock them up then sight how all these monstrosity happened with that useless system in place.
and yet again a dig at tevinter whilst deflecting from clear oppressive policy.
Hypocrisy and fear. you claim to be above "emotional" arguments yet your entire platform is a campaign of fear. Scare tactics to get the uneducated begging for action.
Chant of the Templars..............
dedicated to the protectors of the innocent people
locking them away didn't work, we're going in circles hear.......... oh lock them up then sight how all these monstrosity happened with that useless system in place.
Monstersities?
A thousand years of peace, magic being used for the betterment of man, magic being used to defend Thedas from threats; you would label that monsterities? That useless?
There have been mishaps this true, but that occured on both sides of the spectrum usually in equal measure.
This system has kept millions, literally millions of people safe and secured from the danger of magic while at the same time also providing for and caring for the mages, is it perfect? No but it is a far cry from useless and it is definitely better then any presented alternatives.
you claim to be above "emotional" arguments yet your entire platform is a campaign of fear. Scare tactics to get the uneducated begging for action.
Just like yours is a blatant platform of mage supremacy?
It does. You can take the red lyrium away from a templar before he goes crazy, but you can't take the magic out of a mage.
Well, you can. But that involves tranquillity. Which is one of the things mages rebelled over in the first place.
If we could just 'take it away', the reds wouldn't be a major faction/antagonist in Inquisition. Which makes them ticking time bombs. There's also the lyrium addiction which can be manipulated by certain factions to radically alter Templar behavior.
There are also the Templars who are monstrously abusive (Karras) or end up losing their minds (Meredith). And then there are mages like Bethany and Malcolm, who are pretty much heroes without a blemish on their records.
Also, Tranquility is one of the things some mages rebelled over; there are numerous perspectives about tranquility in the mage community.
The point being that these sweeping statements about mages being ticking time bombs couldn't be more false; it all depends on the individual for both mages and templars.
Absolutist bs like that is what got us in this predicament in the first place.
Also, Tranquility is one of the things some mages rebelled over
Four.
Four have mentioned it.
Mages rule Tevinter because mages are superior to mundanes, plain and simple. Magic is power, power is strength and the strong rule. It is why Tevinter has endured and will continue to do so. Also Tevinters are inherently superior to the rest of Thedas. The south is filled with fear mongering, illiterate, uneducated and unwashed savages.
Savages eh? well i think that Savage is not the appropriate word to describe the orelsians..................
Savages eh? well i think that Savage is not the appropriate word to describe the orelsians..................
Most civilized nation of people in existence just about sums it up.
If we could just 'take it away', the reds wouldn't be a major faction/antagonist in Inquisition. Which makes them ticking time bombs. There's also the lyrium addiction which can be manipulated by certain factions to radically alter Templar behavior.
There are also the Templars who are monstrously abusive (Karras) or end up losing their minds (Meredith). And then there are mages like Bethany and Malcolm, who are pretty much heroes without a blemish on their records.
Also, Tranquility is one of the things some mages rebelled over; there are numerous perspectives about tranquility in the mage community.
The point being that these sweeping statements about mages being ticking time bombs couldn't be more false; it all depends on the individual for both mages and templars.
Absolutist bs like that is what got us in this predicament in the first place.
Templar scum. All templars should crucified along the imperial highway.
You sound a bit like Caesar's Legion
You sound a bit like Caesar's Legion
I admire the purity of the Legion's justice.
It's not even remotely the same. The red templars are a danger, yes. But they are a danger like a bandit with a bomb is a danger: Take away a bandit's bomb and you have a thug you can throw in jail. Without red lyrium, a templar is not a ticking time bomb. Children don't spontaneously turn into templars, and even if they did they wouldn't spontaneously get their hands on red lyrium. A templar who doesn't touch red lyrium is not in any danger of turning into a behemoth.
This is not so for a mage. A mage is always a danger. Even a child with magic powers is a danger. A mage can turn into an abomination anywhere, any time and they must always remain vigilant against the forces that will try to tempt them. This is a point not even mages argue. All it takes is one wrong step. Just one.
You do not have to be a behemoth to be a monster. I am sure that the mages of Kirkwall's circle would agree.
A templar can turn into a rapist/abuser of power to the point of murder or worse, anywhere, any time and they must always exercise restraint when dealing with their prisoners. This is a point the Chantry and templars will argue because of the sheer size of their egos.
With Red Lyrium added to the mix, you now have literal monsters running around.
Unless you destroy red lyrium and wipe out the red templars, some will be at risk of picking up the red lyrium. It also seems a bit late for their 'come to jesus meeting' given their presence in Inquisition.
It is not exactly the same but it is very very similar.
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