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Mages vs. Templars: Where do you stand?


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#1201
Sinuphro

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ahh the new powerful red lyrium templars  will destroy all the mages of the world, we will have 4000 new Meredith in Inquisition ahhh. sigh my beloved Meredith............. 

Mage in cage this is my only compromise, the chantry is too kind with you mages, but now is the moment of the hard measure Inquisition, seekers, red templars and and the angry folk of thedas and demons......

 

lmao...u kill the mages...20 years later...the victor's kids have lots of grand children only to find out 90% of their offsprings are mages lol rofllmafo. lmao lets see the 10% non mages try to police the 90% lol. In short, they would not be able to kill their kin. But it gets worse.....all the mages that could have trained them in resisting demonic possession are all dead.... :rolleyes: So guess whats gonna happen?! :D  Your lands would be run by abominations lol



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Will someone define "Mage/Templar Conflict end" please?


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Periodization is a retroactively imposed intersubjective cognitive construct. It is not objective; it is not "wie es eigentlich gewesen".

When did the American Civil War end? Was it on 9 April 1865, when the Army of Northern Virginia's leadership signed documents of surrender? Or was it on 26 April 1865, when the leadership of the Army of Tennessee surrendered to federal forces? The last formal military surrender of any Confederate unit was that of the raiding vessel CSS Shenandoah, which surrendered to British authorities in Liverpool on 6 November 1865. Would that date be best? But military operations against partisan forces in the southern United States continued into the 1870s - and some of those partisan organizations still exist today, albeit in somewhat altered form.

Politically, President Andrew Johnson issued a proclamation declaring a end to the state of rebellion on 2 April 1866. One might choose that date instead. But economically, culturally, and politically, the American Civil War cast a longer shadow. In many ways, the South was still feeling the effects of Federal destruction of infrastructure into the 1930s. The Solid South, a relic of secession-era politics, persisted for a century. In the 1960s, American antisegregation activists repeatedly made claims to the effect that the Civil War was not yet over, and that they were continuing the work of those who fought against secession a hundred years before. It didn't end - it just mutated into a different form.

Claiming that the American Civil War ended in the spring of 1865 is like claiming that the Iraq War ended in the spring of 2003. You can certainly make an argument for it, but that argument is not objective and there are plenty of excellent reasons to argue against it. That's true of setting any end date for anything. It's more of a reflection of the person setting the end date, and the sort of point that that person wants to make, than it is a reflection of what actually happened.

Defining who 'wins' a mage-templar conflict might be awfully fraught. It may depend on what end date one chooses; maybe a few decades or centuries later, the losing side stages a comeback of some kind and tries to overthrow whatever system the current conflict leaves in place. Whether you call that a second war or a truce is entirely subjective. Maybe things change after the conflict without 'open war'. It's hard for me to imagine a scenario for any mage-templar conflict that leaves a system that can't and won't be destroyed somehow.


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lol i thought i was anti but some of the people here take it to a new level, anyways i can see where you pro mages are coming from and yes the templar should be nice about the way they go about treating the mages in the circles but the system itself was good.

 

The mages belong in the circles where they can be watched closely they cannot and shouldnt be free to roam around ouside, for every mage thats free there are a bunch of lives at risk.



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EmissaryofLies

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I used to work at Wal-Mart...

 

Is it true what they say?



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Have you not seen what mages have done to Leliana?

That and worse is what they would do to us all if allowed. Suffer not a mage to live.



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Have you not seen what mages have done to Leliana?

That and worse is what they would do to us all if allowed. Suffer not a mage to live.

Not all of them.

 

It depends on their moral and other factors.



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EmissaryofLies

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Not all of them.

 

It depends on their moral and other factors.

 

Don't be ridiculous; mages are hive mind killing machines who seek to sacrifice your children for the great demon.


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Don't be ridiculous; mages are hive mind killing machines who seek to sacrifice your children for the great demon.


The...the great demon?

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Going to stand with the mages, but that doesn't mean I dislike the Templars or their concepts completely.

 

I do think there needs to be some kind of mandatory education system for young mages to learn how to control and harness their magical abilities properly, however, I don't think said education system should keep mages locked up for life like a prison. There needs to be some major reforms put into place.


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MisterJB

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Don't be ridiculous; mages are hive mind killing machines who seek to sacrifice your children for the great demon.

 

Would you say that this great demon was...an elder one?
 



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EmissaryofLies

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Would you say that this great demon was...an elder one?
 

 

Could be!

 

The...the great demon?

 

Oh yes.

 

And he does demony things!



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You deny us our freedom so that you may sleep better at night, but I say it is a restless and undeserved slumber.


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Agreed they should earn their slumber..eternally

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EmperorSahlertz

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At least in the afterlife we would be free from the incessant wailing of malcontent spoiled mages..... Oh what am I saying... The mages would no doubt find a way to complain about paradise aswell.


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Have you not seen what mages have done to Leliana?

 

Yes, yes I have, best thing I have seen today. 



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Br3admax

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You deny us our freedom so that you may sleep better at night, but I say it is a restless and undeserved slumber.

I hear the peace of the grave is eternal. 



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I hear the peace of the grave is eternal. 

 

Apparently you haven't heard of necromancy.



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Br3admax

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Those are spirits possessing corpse. The person is long gone. 



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Let demons feast upon all those who stand against mages. Let them know true terror.
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raging_monkey

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Let demons feast upon all those who stand against mages. Let them know true terror.

direct them to the loyalists they deserve it

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direct them to the loyalists they deserve it

 

the loyalists deserve a fate worse then death. 



#1222
Br3admax

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The Orsino-tier logic in this thread is kind of disturbing. 


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#1223
lordsaren101

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The Orsino-tier logic in this thread is kind of disturbing.


I find the rationale for forced imprisonment far more disturbing.

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Xilizhra

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I hear the peace of the grave is eternal. 

Wait, isn't that you saying that your side should just lie down and die, in context? Because it was the templars' peace that was the subject of that sentence, not the mages'.



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Br3admax

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Wait, isn't that you saying that your side should just lie down and die, in context? Because it was the templars' peace that was the subject of that sentence, not the mages'.

What is my side, exactly?