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Mages vs. Templars: Where do you stand?


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#1276
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Which side isn't run by a madman or madwoman at present? I'm for them.

 

Because I'm pretty sick of that, between you and me.



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Which side isn't run by a madman or madwoman at present? I'm for them.

 

Because I'm pretty sick of that, between you and me.

Then you are just **** outta luck.


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#1278
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Define "mad".

 

Fiona is much more smarter than Lambert. If anything the templar separation from chantry helped the mages cause immensely. If they stayed the Chantry would have stopped the mages eventually and the Templars would get to keep their reputation and respect. Lambert aided the mages more than Fiona ever did.



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Define "mad".

 

Fiona is much more smarter than Lambert. If anything the templar separation from chantry helped the mages cause immensely. If they stayed the Chantry would have stopped the mages eventually and the Templars would get to keep their reputation and respect. Lambert aided the mages more than Fiona ever did.

Nah, I don't think she's that smarter. 


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If i lived in thedas my upbringing, experiences and biases would be far different than what they are now. That would completely change what my opinion is.

 

They only question would be if i was suddenly transported into the world of dragon age. In that case templars, because i dont want a bunch of fireball spewing demon magnets having a free run of the place. And a little bit of religious zealotry is good now and again.



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Nah, I don't think she's that smarter. 

 

She got her way without drawing a single drop of blood. She is cunning if not smart.



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She got her way without drawing a single drop of blood. She is cunning if not smart.

She got her way due to someone else doing something to get that outcome. She did nothing, so she didn't show any sign of cunning in this regards.

Unless she plotted with Adrian, and in this case I'll try to remove her from her position.



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Fiona is much more smarter than Lambert. 

*eye twitch 



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She got her way without drawing a single drop of blood. She is cunning if not smart.

Uh...someone's forgetting the battle in the White Spire. Seems to me that she spilled a crap ton of blood.


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Define "mad".

 

Fiona is much more smarter than Lambert. If anything the templar separation from chantry helped the mages cause immensely. If they stayed the Chantry would have stopped the mages eventually and the Templars would get to keep their reputation and respect. Lambert aided the mages more than Fiona ever did.

 

 

When I'm near victory for their cause, are they going to suddenly announce desperation and try to kill me and all their allies?



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Uh...someone's forgetting the battle in the White Spire. Seems to me that she spilled a crap ton of blood.

Oh, and this. People died even before the war started.



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I think Lulu blames that on the Templars. 



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Uh...someone's forgetting the battle in the White Spire. Seems to me that she spilled a crap ton of blood.

 
I don't think self defense counts. My statement meant she didn't commit murder to get her way which is true. I think that's Adrian you are looking for.
 

*eye twitch

 
At least she has a brain there and not a junkie, she is not a Fenris made lord seeker. Paranoid, obsessed and demented. All of which are boosted by Lyrium.



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Paranoid, obsessed and demented. All of which are boosted by Lyrium.

 


Well, we know that he probably isn't addicted to lyrium like normal Templars, so I think you're wrong there. Maybe a little nuts, but not due to the lyrium.



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I think Lulu blames that on the Templars. 

 

The WAR was started by Templars, mages simply rebelled and putting them down would be a breeze if Templars didn't separate from Chantry. Because there would be no actual war, it would be mages endangering safety of Thedas and the whole world would aided Templars. 


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 At least she has a brain there and not a junkie, she is not a Fenris made lord seeker. Paranoid, obsessed and demented. All of which are boosted by Lyrium.

First how do you know Lambert uses lyrium? Second, how do you know he's a junkie, but Fiona isn't? Third, i was talking about how ever reading "much more smarter" hurt me and every English teacher I've ever had since the 1st grade. Calm down with the charged words. 



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putting them down would be a breeze if Templars didn't separate from Chantry.

Ummmmm, where are you drawing this conclusion from? They have the capability to win, yes, but it'd hardly be a breeze.



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The WAR was started by Templars, mages simply rebelled and putting them down would be a breeze if Templars didn't separate from Chantry. Because there would be no actual war, it would be mages endangering safety of Thedas and the whole world would aided Templars. 

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Those darn Templars. Causing war, while the mages are just fighting for freedom. 



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Those darn Templars. Causing war, while the mages are just fighting for freedom. 

"A mage killed hundreds with a snap of their fingers. Across Thedas, a new tangible fear of magic grew. Commoners and nobles alike called out to the Chantry for protection. But the malcontents in the towers thought nothing of this. They cared only for themselves and their anger at the new Templar restrictions. When a mage attempted to assassinate Divine Justinia, again, the mages protested the investigation. The leadership chose to vote on independence based on the intolerable conditions imposed by the Templars, sparing no thought to the fact that magic was more feared in the aftermath of these attacks than it had been since Tevinter’s day. So long as they have their freedom, they could care little for riots or angry mobs or pitting mages against each other."

 

---From the Holy Gospel of Madame de Fer


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i was talking about how ever reading "much more smarter" hurt me and every English teacher I've ever had since the 1st grade. Calm down with the charged words. 

 

Well sorry for the eye twitch then. I really have no use for English in my daily routine except when I'm on internet, its quite rusty as I'm rarely talking/writing in English.

 

 

Ummmmm, where are you drawing this conclusion from? They have the capability to win, yes, but it'd hardly be a breeze.

 

Why are you separating the sentence from the whole post? Your answer lies in rest of my post. The Templars are alone now in opposed to Chantry and nations helping them as the mages would practically endanger everyone by rebelling. The Templars are doing the same now. Now its Templars vs Mages. If they didn't separate it would be the whole word vs mages.



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Those darn Templars. Causing war, while the mages are just fighting for freedom. 

Can't spell freedom without dom. Or free. Wait...

 

What I'm trying to say is that it takes two omelettes to... make... an egg?



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Ummmmm, where are you drawing this conclusion from? They have the capability to win, yes, but it'd hardly be a breeze.

 

Should've been a wash, tbh. Their training is an area I would definitely consider reviewing.


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#1298
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First how do you know Lambert uses lyrium? Second, how do you know he's a junkie, but Fiona isn't? Third, i was talking about how ever reading "much more smarter" hurt me and every English teacher I've ever had since the 1st grade. Calm down with the charged words. 

 

Its a quite safe claim to say Lambert uses Lyrium, or at least used. The effects do not go away. Fiona is not an addict. 

 

Edit: lmao browser messed up, this was meant to be included in previous post of mine.



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Should've been a wash, tbh. Their training is an area I would definitely consider reviewing.

Lambert disappeared before the war began and they were cut off from their power supply. Even then mages are a force to be reckoned with. Though I admit another smackdown like at the Gallows would have happened eventually. 



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Its a quite safe claim to say Lambert uses Lyrium, or at least used. The effects do not go away. Fiona is not an addict. 

How do you know what Fiona is doing? Also, no it's not safe to assume that given Cassandra's Templar spec and the fact Templars in Tevinter don't have anit-magic abilities.