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[Master Warder Z_]

Gunpowder against people who shoot fireballs.

That could never go wrong.

Honestly unless if it's at least gotten to flint lock stage those are pretty useless anyway.

[Master Warder Z_]

Gunpowder against people who shoot fireballs.

That could never go wrong.

Honestly unless if it's at least gotten to flint lock stage those are pretty useless anyway.

[herkles]

I am not even sure that the qunari have guns, cannons and dreadnaughts, yes. Guns though? not so sure. Not to mention, they don't like sharing there secrets. 

[Master Warder Z_]

No firearms in Thedas.

[Tevinter Soldier]

No firearms in Thedas.

 

and we can only hope it stays that way.

[EmissaryofLies]

I love me some guns; been dyin' to shoot a Chantry priest in the knees.

[KainD]

I love me some guns; been dyin' to shoot a Chantry priest in the knees.

 

Just use hammer and nails. 

[Veloric Wu]

I love me some guns; been dyin' to shoot a Chantry priest in the knees.

 

"I used to be an adventurer like you. Then I took an arrow in the~"

 

~what? Wrong game? Kay den 

[dragonflight288]

I love me some guns; been dyin' to shoot a Chantry priest in the knees.

 

[The Baconer]

Honestly unless if it's at least gotten to flint lock stage those are pretty useless anyway.

 

How so? People are still going to be carrying powder horns (or cartridges of gunpowder), and loading their guns with gunpowder. If they're using match cords it's even worse up against mages.

[Veloric Wu]

 

 

I realize this could be taken in both ways. It's a Templar sigil but you are putting it upside-down.

 

So is it "My Life for Templars!" or "Down with the Templars"? 

[The Baconer]

I realize this could be taken in both ways. It's a Templar sigil but you are putting it upside-down.

 

So is it "My Life for Templars!" or "Down with the Templars"? 

 

The flames are reaching upward, so it's not upside down. The sword can point either upward or downward, but I think since DA2 the latter is the most common orientation.

[dragonflight288]

The Chantry influence is absolute: Their military, their money, their land.

 

As for the matter of local leadership; The acting Knight Commander will be in command of the local garrison, duty and labor forces while the First Enchanter of the circle acts as the spokesmen of the mages to the local and international authorities.

 

Crime? Templar authority will extend to keeping Chantry and Circle law present throughout the zone.

 

Beyond that court will be under military discretion and tribunal; in this case Chantry and Templar. 

 

Papal states is a term referring to the territory under the Pope from a period extending to the early 8th century to the late 18th century. These zones would be under the Divine and Chantry and thus i thought the term apt.

 

Hmm. Interesting system. 

 

Q4: What of Grey Wardens? It takes lyrium, and it was the mages who were preparing the Joining, so would the Joining and the mages in the Wardens also have to go under Chantry authority in your system? 

 

Q5: What will be the role of the Seekers? And how much authority would they have separate from the Templars and the Divine?

 

Q6: How will rules regarding treatment of mages within the zones themselves be handled?

 

Final question, but I think this one is probably the most important and will take some set up. 

 

In one of the videos, vivienne tells the Inquisitor one of the biggest flaws with the mages themselves and what led up to the templar civil war. That being awareness. Mages do not see how good they have it compared to every other group specifically because they are kept separated. So after Kirkwall, and after a mage tried to assassinate the Divine, all they really saw was the templars cracking down on them and increased regulations on them, and they didn't, couldn't, see how much magic itself was now feared and hated by the common man. There is a very real barrier of awareness going on as mages do not see how much they and their gift/curse is hated and feared, and the normal people have been taught for centuries that magic is something to be feared, and even seen as a curse by the Maker by the Chantry (Ser Perth wants nothing to do with magical amulets as he feels they are unholy, something that even one of my favorite templars, Ser Bryant, describes magic as, and Lambert outright says it in Asunder that the Chantry giving mages more rights won't take away the culture they developed regarding mages over centuries). 

 

And by separating people, it has been proven in real life, if used with propaganda, you can create a very huge "us or them" mindset, and that mindset contributed to Mage/Templar war, a war that is not endorsed by any country or even the Chantry I might add 

 

So, the final question.

 

Q7: How would you deal with the issue of awareness, and help prevent the creation of the "us or them" mindset that leads to the discrimination seen in the game on all sides?

[SomniariKess1124]

in cases like this, i really like to refer people to harry potter. Hogwarts was a pretty good solution to a magical training problem. Sure you'd get a few bad apples (Voldemort, ect.) but those are inevitable. Also in Harry Potter there was the ministry of magic (aka where the templars come in).

[Dean_the_Young]

in cases like this, i really like to refer people to harry potter. Hogwarts was a pretty good solution to a magical training problem. Sure you'd get a few bad apples (Voldemort, ect.) but those are inevitable. Also in Harry Potter there was the ministry of magic (aka where the templars come in).

 

I always get a tad bemused/confused when people raise Harry Potter as an analogy to Dragon Age, if only because magic in the two universes is radically different in scope, scale, nature, and quite frequently consequence. In the Harry Potter universe magic is a lot less potent, far more stable, much easier to track and identify, and far easier to circumvent or put down, to the point that mages in the Harry Potter universe live in an isolated shadow-community rather than be pulled into the notice and potential conflict with mundanes. Plus, a lack of abominations.

 

In the Dragon Age setting, even barely or untrained children can accidentally do damage on par or surpassing He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named. Deliberate maleficars are even worse, and would far surpass Voldemort if the rules of magic in the DA setting allowed it.

[MisterJB]

YAY, Mage Templar arguments.

 

in cases like this, i really like to refer people to harry potter. Hogwarts was a pretty good solution to a magical training problem. Sure you'd get a few bad apples (Voldemort, ect.) but those are inevitable. Also in Harry Potter there was the ministry of magic (aka where the templars come in).

Like Dean said, in the Harry Potter universe, muggles have weapons such as these:

 

 

while wizards have killing curses that are so slow a bird and an animated statue are fast enough to intercept them (see Dumbledore's duel with Voldemort).

 

Plus, there are no demons in Harry Potter.

 

 

 

[Master Warder Z_]

Bah!

Tsar Bomba is overrated!

Experimental commie garbage!

The Bravo Shot at bikini atoll is something that was actually produced for war.

[Qun00]

There are good templars and bad ones, I have nothing against them.

But I feel no incentive to side with them because they simply don't matter in this franchise. It's like templars are just side characters and mages are the protagonists.

[Master Warder Z_]

There are good templars and bad ones, I have nothing against them.

But I feel no incentive to side with them because they simply don't matter in this franchise. It's like templars are just side characters and mages are the protagonists.

Your entitled to your extremely wrong opinion with purchase.

Why the meat suit side show freaks would be stars of anything beyond a tabloid front page I'd have no idea.

[MoonDrummer]

I've never really cared.

[The Elder King]

I'd say so far Mages and Templars had roughly the same role in the franchise.
Though it seems the Elven lore and past is going to have a big role in the future.

[Archdemon_Urthemiel]

Mages for me

[raging_monkey]

There are good templars and bad ones, I have nothing against them.

But I feel no incentive to side with them because they simply don't matter in this franchise. It's like templars are just side characters and mages are the protagonists.

I totally agree with this

[Xilizhra]

 

YAY, Mage Templar arguments.

 

Like Dean said, in the Harry Potter universe, muggles have weapons such as these:

 

 

while wizards have killing curses that are so slow a bird and an animated statue are fast enough to intercept them (see Dumbledore's duel with Voldemort).

 

Plus, there are no demons in Harry Potter.

 

Well, there are dementors, who are more or less demons. Which are both invisible to Muggles and immune to anything that isn't magic, and who will obliterate morale anywhere they gather and who eat peoples' souls.

 

Also, it seems like it'd be trivial to come up with a physically oriented shield that can stop bullets.

 

 

Your entitled to your extremely wrong opinion with purchase.

Why the meat suit side show freaks would be stars of anything beyond a tabloid front page I'd have no idea.

We shall see, when the next game has plenty of mages and no templars.

[The Elder King]

I missed those threads.