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As part of the Mage Origin your GW's long time friend, Jowan, is facing a fate he considers to be worse than death. Tranquility. You have the choice to aid him and his beloved Lily in escaping this fate OR alert Irving to Jowan's plans. What did your Mage Warden do? Given all that has unfolded leading up to DA:I, has your opinion on that choice changed?

 

Personally, on my first play through I told Irving about Jowan's escape plan. I did go along with Jowan on my second mage, but only to see what the differences would be. All my other mages "I need to think this over" then run to Irving. My reasons then were the same as they are now. First, my "friend" was going to ruin my life and the life of someone he claimed to love just for a snow balls chance at saving his own hide. Second, the plan didn't even include how in The Makers name we were going to actually get out of the Tower.

 

 

I don't care that he was a blood mage. I don't even care that he lied about practicing blood magic. Hell, most of my mages end up being blood mages. It was that his plan was basically "Get into the vault and smash the vial then...... NOTHING! Run for the rest of what is probably going to be a very short life."

 

As I learned more about it, my attitude toward blood magic has become rather neutral. Blood magic itself is not inherently good nor evil. It's little more than another fuel source for spells in place of Lyrium or lack there of. It deserves study. Ignoring it just means it will be harder to contain the damage from the... accidents.

 


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Good post, Bardox9.  I totally agree with you regarding Blood Magic.  Although I rarely played a mage in DAO, I did try it both ways.  i.e. siding with him and letting Irving know what he was planning.  Letting Irving know always just made me feel like a rat somehow.  As you say, however, Jowan's plans were certainly not well fleshed out, and they did make me somewhat wary about his real down deep character and concern for his fellow mages and mankind.  Later on, in the Redcliffe scenario, if he got to that part, he turned out to be a pretty decent fellow eventually.

 

However, overall I have never enjoyed playing a mage character because I'm just not very good a using magic :wacko:   


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The game might tell me he is a BFF but I had no connection to him or his concerns.  I go straight to Irving and rat him out.  Since I haven't played as a mage in years I can't say I RP it this way all the time but as a mage he always dies in the Redcliffe jail since I blame him for ruining my life and becoming a GW which is something my mages never ever want.

 

Now looking outside the box I can't blame him for wanting out.  Control over his life (if he ever had it) was about to end and he was going to lose the love of his life.  That certainly would push me to doing some extreme stuff to avoid that fate.  I just am not sure if I would have brought anyone else into the plan other than Lily but then again I have trust issues.


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Jowan's got a Loghain thing going on where I can understand his actions but that doesn't make them excusable. Actually, I sympathize more with Jowan than Loghain. Jowan is put in a situation where he has to choose his own life or someone else's. He chose the former with the mage warden and again with Arl Eamon. His situation sucks being a captive mage most of his life who was going to be made tranquil for being an idiot. Him using blood magic, while not worthy of tranquility in his case I'd say, was a mistake he never should have made. It sucks to have templars dictate what you can "dabble" in but once he did that he kept doing bad things to save his skin.

 

The hardest and saddest part was when deciding Jowan's fate. I've always just let Eamon decide without input because I couldn't defend him after what he did but did feel sorry for him. It's especially hard because he truly wanted to make up for his mistakes. Even when offered a chance to flee he'd rather help with Connor. It annoyed me though how he was a coward that refused to help in combat when he was locked in his Redcliffe cell.

 

Jowan seems to be a good person that did some stupid, really bad things.



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My first mage helped him mainly because I didn't know I could go to Irving as well. Reloaded later and ratted him out. My most recent mage helped him. She went to Irving and asked him about Jowan's fear to be made Tranquil. When he outright said this was going to happen to Jowan she turned around and promised to help him.


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Jowan was never much of a strategist, but I usually helped him because I had no real reason not to.  Unfortunately, when you know for certain that Duncan's going to recruit you no matter what actions you take, it sort of takes away from any feeling of consequence for breaking the law and making moral decisions that have the same net result at the end of the origin.  People will react a little differently later, but I can't say those reactions had much impact.  So I helped the fool, if for no other reason than because I don't like Templars controlling mages.  Also, why make Jowan tranquil, anyway?  He's so monumentally weak that he can't even become a full-fledged mage.  I can't imagine a whole lot of demons are lining up to take him as their host.  I don't think he even knows that blood magic can be used to hurt people.  At the end of the origin, all he did was give himself a crippling injury in order to knock everyone down for a second and run away.  He could have killed them all, and instead he used their gigantic armour against them and made good his poorly thought out escape.  Maybe that's why Irving didn't bother using his own vastly superior power to stop him sooner.  He knew Jowan wasn't a danger.

 

As for the blood magic thing, I'd say it's just as dangerous or harmless as the mage who uses it.  People don't freak the hell out over mages controlling water, because that doesn't really come from in our bodies and isn't psychologically linked to life, but once a mage figures out that they can move blood back and forth in a similar manner, they're branded evil because blood is scary, and people don't realise it can be of much greater use to healers on the battlefield than anyone else.  I love how ignorant and superstitious the vast majority of Thedas' citizens seem to be.  Then again, blood magic is also supposed to allow users to take away their victim's free will, so there's that.  Again, that comes down to how dangerous the mage is.

 

From the Templars' point of view, I guess you can see their paranoia of blood magic, since knowledge on how to use it comes from demons.  That said, if they actually stopped killing blood mages, then only one needs to deal with demons, and they can then teach others how it works.  Dragging things back to Jowan, I feel like that alone is enough reason to let him go later.  He's not a danger to anyone until forced into it, on account of him being kind of a coward.  If you let someone like Jowan, with minimal magical power but plenty of knowledge and good intention roam around, he'll probably start teaching stray mages how blood magic can be used in good ways.  They'll all then be killed because red liquid is scary and maybe something about demons.

 

I also read once that Jowan was originally meant to be a potential party member, which I actually would have liked to see.  He would have brought a different kind of attitude to an otherwise largely positive thinking team.  It would have been like keeping Jory alive, or something.  He'd be the guy at the back of the groups muttering "I really think this is a bad idea" every time someone starts outlining a big, deadly plan.  I can understand why they cut him, but I still think he would have made an interesting companion.  A melancholic mage trying to find his place in the world, a social misfit with additional stigma attached to him because of his powers, and then he's a self-centered pacifist until backed into a corner and survival depends on action.  He even seems kind of impressionable and naive, in his own way.  A sort of diverse character ripe for the molding into either a confident and goodhearted mage that could act as a heroic figurehead for magical reform, or fuel his resentment and turn him into a cold-hearted master of the dark arts through his companion quests and stuff, kind of like when hardening Leliana or Alistair.  Like a gloomy, antiheroic Merrill type character.


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I don't know how many of you have played Dragon Age 2, but that game considerably changed my mostly indifferent attitude towards blood magic (and I won't spoil it with details). The wiki has a good overview of it: http://dragonage.wik...ki/Blood_magic

As such, I don't know that Origins gives you enough information to go on concerning Jowan, particularly if you do the quest prior to The Circle or Warden's Keep.

 

If you take away the extremists (e.g. The Chantry), it still boils down to blood magic being used to increase one's power, whether it was the Tevinter mages (who sacrificed slaves/elves and so on) or maladjusted individuals like Jowan and I would say Merrill (DA 2). This power comes with a price (generally collected on by a demon) and usually one or more victims. (And I would add, that this desire for more power often increases as does the lengths one will go to, to achieve it).

 

Also, just look what happened at Warden's Keep even if they were justified in the need for more power. Sadly, they brought on their own demise.

 

In Origins, the price for the ritual to save the boy is the mother's life -- even if that was somewhat righteous --I wanted to kill the mother myself for the deaths she in-part caused. The manner of death is pretty horrific and there is no explanation of her "afterlife" fate, which presumably is not too good in The Fade.

 

Nothing good comes out of blood magic...not without a price.

 

Jowan deserves death in my opinion -- blood magic or no. I think he would be up for the death penalty in a modern day scenario as being the catalyst for all the deaths in Redcliffe as much as the attempted murder. Even with Loghain, is it ever right to attempt an assassination (as a civilian) to get brownie points from a government?

 

P.S. I've sided with mages more than once out of sympathy in the series but I won't be doing that again no matter the extremist elements in the chantry/templars. That is unless I'm playing an evil (selfish) character.


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Wow, I found the previous two posts fascinating.  I'm probably more inclined to agree with HopelesslyNecromantic than with janddran, but you have both expressed yourselves quite clearly.  Although you say, "take away the extremists", janddran, I find that to be precisely the problem; you cannot take away the extremists on either side.  And somehow I found the extremists on the templars' side to be almost more dangerous than those on the mages' side.  That was why I finally found myself coming down on the side of the mages. 

 

In any case, thank you both for some very interesting reading.


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I've only played a mage twice in DAO (I favor rogues), but both times I chose to help Jowan. Loyalty is the most important quality in a friendship to me, and as I've been screwed over plenty of times by disloyal, real-life "friends," I had no desire to be a disloyal friend to poor, misguided Jowan. So I helped him both times. Yes, Jowan's plan had more holes than Swiss cheese, but I just didn't want to be a rat.


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I only ratted him out once, and it did not make that much difference... So, I helped Jowan in the other plays.



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Wow, I found the previous two posts fascinating.  I'm probably more inclined to agree with HopelesslyNecromantic than with janddran, but you have both expressed yourselves quite clearly.  Although you say, "take away the extremists", janddran, I find that to be precisely the problem; you cannot take away the extremists on either side.  And somehow I found the extremists on the templars' side to be almost more dangerous than those on the mages' side.  That was why I finally found myself coming down on the side of the mages. 

 

In any case, thank you both for some very interesting reading.

 

Thank you kindly MouseHopper, both for reading and your comments.

 

I just wanted to clarify what I meant by "taking away the extremist elements." I meant that one could still find the inherent problems in blood magic even if he/she didn't believe the Chantry's spiel. I didn't mean that such should be ignored. It (radical behavior) too is why I have sided with the mages, but when having to choose the lesser of two evils, the more I played (DA 2 especially) the more I have sided against the mages.

 

The Templars can't cause wide-spead death and chaos by mumbling a few words. Blood mages on the other hand... :)

 

I don't think there is a right/wrong answer -- either way innocent people are hurt, such is the frustration -- one of them.


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Jowan is a sad case. He wasn't good enough with magic to become a mage so he turned to blood magic. Yet he was smart enough to learn blood magic from reading books. As a mage, I sided with him because he would have been made tranquil if I didn't help him..there has to be a better way to deal with mages than making them tranquil. 

 

Then at Redcliff, I allowed him to help me save Connor and then asked for him to be sent back to the Circle (even though I guess he'd be made tranquil then). I was madder at Connor's mom than at Jowan. 

 

Necro's post got me to thinking...what if Jowan was allowed to attempt the joining to become a Gray Warden. He probably would have failed and that would have been the end. But if he hadn't failed...I think he would have made a comic Gray Warden. He was a coward and always seemed to be in situations where he was looking for an easier way out. Maker help us if it was left up to him to give the Archdemon the killing blow.  I can see him running now. :P


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My mages (Amell & Surana) always end up helping him. Even after that first playthrough that I know exactly what was coming. Blood magic or not, he is a friend in need and that alone says a lot. Plus, he really loves that girl Lily. How can I not helping a friend in that situation? He was really facing tranquility.

 

Blood Magic in itself is not something that should be seen with a black or white way, as the Chantry teaches us to. True, it's dangerous. But just say it like this. The Grey Wardens and the Chantry itself use blood magic. It is a tool to be considered for ending the Blight for example.

 

Spoiler

 

In any case, I would help Jowan. Always. No one deserves tranquility.



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I've only played a mage twice in DAO (I favor rogues), but both times I chose to help Jowan. Loyalty is the most important quality in a friendship to me, and as I've been screwed over plenty of times by disloyal, real-life "friends," I had no desire to be a disloyal friend to poor, misguided Jowan. So I helped him both times. Yes, Jowan's plan had more holes than Swiss cheese, but I just didn't want to be a rat.

 

Isn't that a double edged sword though,  telling Irving isn't necessary being a bad or disloyal friend but more you trying to protect your friend from making a bad mistake which in this case would cost him his life.  You agree that his plan is a bad one and while death is probably better than being tranquil it isn't just his life you are gambling on but also your own (and Lily).  To risk your own life on such a poorly thought out plan is truly being amazing friend or is it I don't know.  I don't think I have ever had a RL friend that I would go to such a degree for which probably speaks more about my flaws than anything else.


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My mages (Amell & Surana) always end up helping him. Even after that first playthrough that I know exactly what was coming. Blood magic or not, he is a friend in need and that alone says a lot. Plus, he really loves that girl Lily. How can I not helping a friend in that situation? He was really facing tranquility.

 

Blood Magic in itself is not something that should be seen with a black or white way, as the Chantry teaches us to. True, it's dangerous. But just say it like this. The Grey Wardens and the Chantry itself use blood magic. It is a tool to be considered for ending the Blight for example.

 

Spoiler

 

In any case, I would help Jowan. Always. No one deserves tranquility.

 

I would most like to read this book, and will I imagine.

The thing is blood magic use ends up doing more harm than good most of the time. A Grey Warden would presumably have more willpower but then look what happened to Sophia, though it was the mage conducting the ritual at her behest.

 

Even with my feelings on it, I would employ blood magic as a Warden if the alternative was mass death (or my own even, I'll admit) -- such as to slay an archdemon, The Mother etc. But if you'll note 7-8 times out of 10, the blood mages you are exposed to in DA 2 turn into abominations or such -- some when under extreme pressure, presumable then calling on a demon for self-defense. If the Hero wasn't there to end the demon's life more death would ensue. But again the history of blood magic is more about gaining personal power than doing good or even calling upon it in self-defense.

 

I think the issue is more about if you believe if it's worth killing one (potential) innocent to save 1000 or not or if you're of the mindset that no innocent should die or any means to reach an end is OK. 

 

Whether it's all the deaths in The Circle because of Uldred or the Radcliffe incident or Kirkwall -- I can't see putting the liberty of blood mages over the lives of everyone else.

 

The Circle is messed up to be sure but one does have options. The Libertarian mages support separation from the circle but not blood magic. Granted they would need to self-police themselves and their colleagues for such to work, which probably wouldn't fare much worse than the Chantry monitoring. Then again they could become become another Tevinter.

 

Then I think of the Senior Enchanters that fell in both games...one for power and one when pressed.

 

I also think of those that charm others -- which is as dangerous and not something a non-blood mage can do.

 

Now, if there is easy access to red lyrium and non-mages are abusing it, I think maybe all bets are off as that is equally bad.

 

Ahh, Inquisition is going to be so much fun! :D


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My very first mage conspired with Irving. After that I chose to help Jowan.

 

I've never been against blood magic. No magic is inherently evil, its all how it's used. You can take one of the most harmonious magics, put it in the hands of some mass murdering SOB and that still wouldn't make the magic evil, its the person.

 

Jowan made some stupid choices, but he didn't deserve to be made Tranquil for that.

 

In my canon(fanfic) my mage does feel betrayed by the fact that Jowan had lied to her. Being as close as they were it hurt that he would lie straight to her face when she asks him about it.


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Ah, janddran, I still find your thinking so intriguing; but cannot get myself to 100% agree with it.  Although what you say about blood magic is true, and of course in this game blood mages can be overtaken by demons if they are not very careful, I still find myself even more concerned about those Templars (many of whom are noble and true in their beliefs).  But I wonder about people like Meredith and the possibility of a "police state" kind of world.  If all mages are rounded up and kept under lock and key, many good and useful mages will be unable to lead meaningful and productive lives or provide any service to the community other than that chosen for them by the chantry or the Templars.  Does any of this sound familiar??  This seems to me like a sort of death if you are a mage (blood mage or not).  By the same token, I do not mean to disregard the legitimate concerns held by the non-mage community who do not quite understand the use of magic. 

 

But to totally imprison a whole group of people simply based on a difference in humanity has a ring to it that is discomfiting to me to say the least and abhorrent at worst.  Smacks too much of racism.  I'm guessing that along with the treatment of elves it may be another of the game's versions of racism of a different sort. 

 

Maybe I'm taking real world politics and philosophy too much into the game.  What do you think?


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I only ratted him out once, to see what would happen, but otherwise I always help him.

 

Blood magic isn't more dangerous than any other type of magic - basically, it's fueling your magic through your blood instead through lyrium. If your Warden becomes a blood mage, they can use it to cast any other spell. And even the most blood magic spells used in the game are not worse than any other. How is setting person on fire, or turn them into a walking bomb, or cause them nightmares better than causing a blood wound or blood control? Any school of magic can be abused, and it mostly depends on the person.

 

In Jowan's case, it was more foolishness than ill will. He used the blood magic to protect Lily from Aeonar, though it didn't work the way he wanted. And he poisoned the Arl because he believed he was doing a good thing for Ferelden, even though he didn't like it. I don't think what happened in Redcliffe was his fault. Connor was a young mage unable to control his abilities, and Jowan was tutoring him only for a short time when it happened. Yeah, sure, he shouldn't have poisoned the kid's father (but again, why shouldn't he believe the regent of Ferelden?) but he couldn't have known the boy will make a deal with demon. It's also important to note that Jowan DID NOT make the deal with a demon, and if given a chance to go into the Fade, he will not even talk to the demon.

 

So I always let him go. And he proves that he's not an evil maleficar - he starts again, and lives to help people. It's a pity there isn't a mod that would let you recruit him (I know about Karma's companions, but it adds a lot of other stuff, and is too big and buggy, so I had to delete it). I'd love to play with him and see how he changes, he's such interesting and conflicted character. :)

 

As for DA2, I couldn't care less for that game, but I think the situation in Kirkwall was caused more due to the town's history which caused that the Veil was thin, plus the opression of mages under a lunatic Templar. They were desperate and saw no other solution (like the blood mage during the Broken Circle said, they wanted to start a change - Andraste also didn't send Tevinters a strongly worded letter). All my mages ask Alistair to give the Circle independence.



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DA 2 SPOILER.

 

I don't know how people can think blood magic is not inherently dangerous. Look what happened to the Keeper of Merril's clan and all that died in her clan as a result. This had nothing to do with Chantry propaganda (if that is what one considers it) either; and Merrili's intentions were good though apparently underneath was based in pride. Keeping company with the devil per se isn't healthy. Blood Magic has a price. it is that simple. Other magics do not require such.

 

Other than the player character's ability, I can't name 3 acts of blood magic, if any besides companions, that turned out well. Can anyone else?

 

P.S. As for DA 2, don't forget the Senior Enchanter protected a mass-murder and ultimately did not look too pretty in the end. Self-defense of not, he was no saint. After siding with the mages a couple times, having most turn on you (literally) as well as he made me lose most sympathy for blood mages, but not other mages whom I do believe need protection from the radicals.



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In the wrong hands even the best of intentions can be dangerous.  Merrill was very foolish and never thought things completely through.  Her clan only suffered because the keeper wanted to protect Merrill.  Had she left Merrill to her own fate the clan would have been fine.  It was a powerful and sad lesson hopefully Merrill learned however after checking out the Keep there is an option in there that states she doesn't destroy the mirror so there is a possibility she doesn't. Even as a Ice or Water mage I can hurt, control, even kill others in bunches if so wished.  I don't see how blood magic and those are different in the result they produce.  Now how one goes about gaining the knowledge of blood magic is a different story and one I admit I don't fully understand.


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DA 2 SPOILER.

 

I don't know how people can think blood magic is not inherently dangerous. Look what happened to the Keeper of Merril's clan and all that died in her clan as a result. This had nothing to do with Chantry propaganda (if that is what one considers it) either; and Merrili's intentions were good though apparently underneath was based in pride. Keeping company with the devil per se isn't healthy. Blood Magic has a price. it is that simple. Other magics do not require such.

 

Other than the player character's ability, I can't name 3 acts of blood magic, if any besides companions, that turned out well. Can anyone else?

 

I think you're confusing Blood Magic with making deals with demons. And that was what happened with Merrill and her clan. You can be a blood mage and not consort with demons. It's the mages' choice to make deals with the devil.


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Well I don't know how people can think blood magic - or any magic IS inherently dangerous. Merril made a deal with demon - she deliberately chose to ignore teachings of her Keeper and ignore the danger. Jowan learned it from books. There's a huge difference in that.

 

'Other than the player character's ability' - heh. Yeah, sure let's ignore the fact there obviously are mages who didn't learn it from a devil and who don't abuse it for evil, and let's focus on the evil ones. The fact there are books that teach blood magic itself means there are more mages who learned it that way and who are not inherently evil, besides the player.

 

And also, there's Tevinter. Ruled by magisters, many of who are blood mages. If they were all inherently evil and abominations in waiting, that would turn into a killing demon, the Imperium wouldn't last for a decade. As it lasted for centuries, apparently there are blood mages who didn't burst into a demon like Orsino. And I have a hard time believing that all magisters are evil. Yes, even knowing about Danarius and what Fenris said. But Fenris spoke from his personal experience about one magister plus maybe few of his friends. It's hardly valid for the whole nation and for its whole history and culture.


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And also, there's Tevinter. Ruled by magisters, many of who are blood mages. If they were all inherently evil and abominations in waiting, that would turn into a killing demon, the Imperium wouldn't last for a decade. As it lasted for centuries, apparently there are blood mages who didn't burst into a demon like Orsino. And I have a hard time believing that all magisters are evil. Yes, even knowing about Danarius and what Fenris said. But Fenris spoke from his personal experience about one magister plus maybe few of his friends. It's hardly valid for the whole nation and for its whole history and culture.

 

Did you forget the fact the Kirkwall was part of the Imperium with all manner of evil at its core. Besides slaves and sacrifices, they are like the Sith, killing each other in their power struggles. That they didn't burst into abominations just means they had a better reign on the magic than others. It doesn't mean they weren't evil.

 

And DracoAngel, I appreciate the feedback but no I'm not confusing the two. The problem is that most people that use blood magic per the lore or whom you see in the game turn to a demon or into an abomination. I suppose it is like a drug. Some people can take it once and walk away and others become hopelessly addicted. Demons aren't involved in white magic -- hence is why I call it more dangerous, not more evil.

Jowan should have been put through the Harrowing. And he does consort with a demon by doing the ritual with the mother, if you follow that path.It is not seen but implied. A ritual is not for The Maker, it is to please some demon. Blood mages use rituals that take life, other mages do not. Those that progress in the art start treating people as objects to feed their power. What do demons feed on?

 

I'd still like to know where the good blood mages hang out.



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Perhaps a guy from Bioware explains it better or at least an aspect of it. He also states they will reveal more, which I look forward to.

 

From reddit:

 

At the 2012 PAX East DA Panel, someone asked about these characters specifically, and their ability to seemingly use blood magic without being corrupt. (video on the Bioware blog, transcript by nightscrawl on the Bioware Forums)

The Question:

"And just a slight lore question: with Jowan, and Merrill, and Hawke, and the Warden being able to be a Blood Mage as well, it seems to me that to be a Blood Mage you don't necessarily have to be corrupt. Is that true, or am I just imagining it? Like it seems like you could be a good person, yet still be a Blood Mage."

 

The answer by David Gaider:

 

 

"It's not corruption in the way that the Blight is a corruption... A lot of it is opinion and fear, [of] the things that a Blood Mage is capable of. Which, as we're moving forward, we'd like to show that a little bit more, especially the mind control. And it is based on people who have that kind of power, the ability to influence other people's minds, the temptation to misuse it is a corruption. That kind of power is

corrupting, right? That's the danger, not a physical 'I suddenly turn to the dark side and my eyes have gone black' kind of corruption."

 

So blood mages may start out using their own blood with good intentions, but there is always the temptation for more power.

There's also the fact that the very act of using blood to fuel magic is inherently violent. It's not just the blood that fuels the spells, but the pain or death that it is involved as well. "The more violent the pain or death used in blood magic, the more powerful a spell becomes." (WoT, pg. 109)

 

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That said, I didn't mean to come across as argumentative if I did but rather am just surprised at some of the responses. Not because they differ than mine but I figured it would be more split.

 

Additionally there is very compelling Templar lore too, including those whom championed mages. But while this is a small sample in this thread, I think anti-Chantry sentiment (as opposed to anti-radical sentiment) is quite strong from random comments I've seen. Whether this influences one view on the matter is another story.



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At first I helped him because I thought, you know, friends. Then he does all this stupid stuff. I felt he was a little like (Oh I hate doing this) Peter Pettigrew from Harry Potter. Not strong enough himself so he goes for the powerful mages for friends. He loves Lily (I don't deny that) but he also uses her and the warden.

 

After a few playthroughs I found that I could sell him out to Irving. So I did. Much less running around. He uses the warden regardless of what his/her fate may be. I did notice tho' that if you betray him as fem-mage then he gets mad at you when he is caught. If you are a man-mage then nothing.

 

I would have liked to have known what was Irving's evidence tho'. IIRC it was Uldred that set Jowan on the path to blood magic because his willpower was never very strong.

 

At Redcliffe I prefer to have him executed. Sending him back to the Circle would mean tranquility which would be worse than death, unless they opted for execution. I can't let him loose because he is a blood mage and my Amell is usually a goody-two-shoes. Irving's pet. :D