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[AlanC9]

BrianWilly wrote...
Yeah, the evidence that Meer had actually recorded actual dialogue for a romance with Kaiden is pretty frustrating as well. 

I'm sure there's probably already a link somewhere in the thread, but could someone source this?

[ERJAK2]

DPSSOC wrote...

Ok just as a thought perhaps Bioware omitted same sex relations because they wanted to avoid stepping on some rather touchy toes? One thing people need to realize, and this may sound strange, is that Mass Effect is more real than Dragon Age was. Allow me to explain; Dragon Age has absolutely no ties to our world, it takes place in a country on a planet in a universe that doesn't exist which means a lot of things can slide. Mass Effect on the other hand does have ties to the real world. It is very clearly stated that the game takes place in our future (same countries, same planet, same history, same universe) which means issues touched on by the game hit a little closer to home. Shepard is an officer in the military and, like it or not, gays in the military is a touchy subject for many people. So perhaps Bioware simply wanted to avoid touching on a subject that a lot of people take issue with.

They already did the lesbian thing in ME1. kinda. 

[ERJAK2]

for alan.

[Kalfear]

Im confused, the annoying little idiot whose name I refuse to say says 2 million from a 35 million sampling pool is NOT a minority?



(scratches head)



What exactly is a minority then?



Forget new math, this goes a step beyond that!



And :moron that talks to himself in 3rd person" when did the state of California dictate rules and laws to the rest of the United States, much less the entire world? Or in your delussion do you not realize this is a world wide issue, not a USA issue?



You got some real funky so called logic going on here!



And thirdly (since no pro gay person will speak up as you argueing their side...kinda. Nice how you all backing up your beleifs all the time) Its common beleif by homosexuals that they DO NOT CHOOSE to be such, they are born as such. Maybe you should actually learn about the topic your preaching on before you open your mouth some more!



I have gay freinds that would literally drop your 13 year old self for suggesting they were not born who they are and its a choice they made so they can be different!



Oh and since it needs to be said, quite spamming forums with this 3rd person nonsence. I think Im going to start a movement reporting you for spam when ever you post that idiotic junk from now on.

[Maugrim]

octoberfire wrote...

lewis1306 wrote...
contrast that with the various "same sex romance support" forums... a majority of the posts are either: indifferent, anti same sex romance, or flamewars/argument posts.

I am not a hater and it wouldn't bother me at all to have some Bisexual lovin' going on in the mass effect universe... all i'm saying is that if bioware were actually looking at these forums to help them decide whether or not to include same sex romance then it might actually make them LESS inclined to include t hem instead of more.

Sadly, that's quite true but we don't have any other choice but to persist and hope that the opposition gets bored and the hatred wears off.

Actually you both are wrong supporters or people who dont care outnumber the bigoted haters 2 to 1.

http://social.biowar...110/polls/1358/

You might argue about not everyone voting on the poll but a sample size of 350+ and rising is darn good for a forum of this size.

[ERJAK2]

Do not respond to Kalfear under any circumstances.

[Revan312]

Ethan009 wrote...

Time for a new PC. My pathetic intel chip isn't cutting it.

despite the fact that it can run Cysis.

Very poor I might add but still.

Also when you manage to make the mod I hope you post it here. I just want to be able to play M!Shep so I can see the differences in storyline.

And honestly I found Jacob and Shep's interactions to be filled to the brim with Ho Yay for some reason

Oh don't worry, I would most definately post it here.  After beating the game a number of times, maybe 3, I'll probobly start in on the tedious process of cracking the pcc's, if it can be done, the original ME really was a nightmare to try and crack and to this day has had minimal success, I imagine however that Demiurge's third party port is the reason it was so difficult and the reason bioware never released any tools or way to mod the game, here's hoping that because this PC version of ME2 has been created in tandem with the xbox version they'll support modding a bit more this time around.

[Sphynx118]

ERJAK2 wrote...

Do not respond to Kalfear under any circumstances.

In the words of shep: "Captains orders"

[MassFrost]

makenzieshepard wrote...

octoberfire wrote...

lewis1306 wrote...
contrast that with the various "same sex romance support" forums... a majority of the posts are either: indifferent, anti same sex romance, or flamewars/argument posts.

I am not a hater and it wouldn't bother me at all to have some Bisexual lovin' going on in the mass effect universe... all i'm saying is that if bioware were actually looking at these forums to help them decide whether or not to include same sex romance then it might actually make them LESS inclined to include t hem instead of more.

Sadly, that's quite true but we don't have any other choice but to persist and hope that the opposition gets bored and the hatred wears off.

Actually you both are wrong supporters or people who dont care outnumber the bigoted haters 2 to 1.

http://social.biowar...110/polls/1358/

You might argue about not everyone voting on the poll but a sample size of 350+ and rising is darn good for a forum of this size.

I have zero problem whatsoever with homosexual content being added to the game. What I do have a problem with is promoting the idea that if you whine about something enough you'll automatically get it. I understand that this was  an issue before the whole gay love interest debate was brought up, but it shouldn't be encouraged nonetheless. At least in my opinion, anyway.

[ERJAK2]

Revan312 wrote...

Ethan009 wrote...

Time for a new PC. My pathetic intel chip isn't cutting it.

despite the fact that it can run Cysis.

Very poor I might add but still.

Also when you manage to make the mod I hope you post it here. I just want to be able to play M!Shep so I can see the differences in storyline.

And honestly I found Jacob and Shep's interactions to be filled to the brim with Ho Yay for some reason

Oh don't worry, I would most definately post it here.  After beating the game a number of times, maybe 3, I'll probobly start in on the tedious process of cracking the pcc's, if it can be done, the original ME really was a nightmare to try and crack and to this day has had minimal success, I imagine however that Demiurge's third party port is the reason it was so difficult and the reason bioware never released any tools or way to mod the game, here's hoping that because this PC version of ME2 has been created in tandem with the xbox version they'll support modding a bit more this time around.

I wonder if they'll sneak in a gender check removal code in the D1 DLC.

That'd be awesome.

[Wonderllama4]

Miranda seems like the experimental type to me... she needs to experience the passion of being with another woman

[MajesticMoose]

*sigh* WOW http://3.bp.blogspot...00/facepalm.jpg 

This whole thread is just... WOW...

Just so you guys know. Both sides of this arguement are being stupid (I used a nice word so as not to hurt your ears)

Im against homosexuality. Its because Im a christian and I know thats not how God intended for it to be. But I dont hate homosexual people (of course I dont hate hitler either OMG! Did he really just say that?!). I accept them as they are, Ill tell them that homosexuality is wrong, but if they dont get in a huge fuss about it then I would remain friends with them. That siad, adding a homosexual romance to the game doesnt really bother me (tho if he comes on to you as easy as Zevrhan did then ill , but Im tough ill get over), theres already violence and pre-marital sex and stuff in the game. I know it isnt exactly Godly. But I dont get why people who want it have to make so many threads about it and get all upset and say "The gays arent represented" (They are "represented" in planty of other places). I also dont see the need for so many threads. And before someone jumps down my throat saying "There are so many threads about it because of people like YOU" (I mean seriously you arent ACTUALLY fifty feet tall, thats the massive pedestal youve made for yourself your standing on), yo u guys are also contributing to the derailing of the tread by responding to the trolls and by being trolls yourselfs. Could you guys be any more hypocritical?! I mean BOTH sides here too. Seriously ALL of you need to have some more maturity here. Its quite pathetic. But continue if you like, it is mildly amussing...

Modifié par MajesticMoose, 25 janvier 2010 - 04:34 .

[Kalfear]

ERJAK2 wrote...

Revan312 wrote...

Ethan009 wrote...

Time for a new PC. My pathetic intel chip isn't cutting it.

despite the fact that it can run Cysis.

Very poor I might add but still.

Also when you manage to make the mod I hope you post it here. I just want to be able to play M!Shep so I can see the differences in storyline.

And honestly I found Jacob and Shep's interactions to be filled to the brim with Ho Yay for some reason

Oh don't worry, I would most definately post it here.  After beating the game a number of times, maybe 3, I'll probobly start in on the tedious process of cracking the pcc's, if it can be done, the original ME really was a nightmare to try and crack and to this day has had minimal success, I imagine however that Demiurge's third party port is the reason it was so difficult and the reason bioware never released any tools or way to mod the game, here's hoping that because this PC version of ME2 has been created in tandem with the xbox version they'll support modding a bit more this time around.

I wonder if they'll sneak in a gender check removal code in the D1 DLC.

That'd be awesome.

nope, even more awsome!

oh and so its clear, its not gays I dont like, its definately you!

[ERJAK2]

MassFrost wrote...

makenzieshepard wrote...

octoberfire wrote...

lewis1306 wrote...
contrast that with the various "same sex romance support" forums... a majority of the posts are either: indifferent, anti same sex romance, or flamewars/argument posts.

I am not a hater and it wouldn't bother me at all to have some Bisexual lovin' going on in the mass effect universe... all i'm saying is that if bioware were actually looking at these forums to help them decide whether or not to include same sex romance then it might actually make them LESS inclined to include t hem instead of more.

Sadly, that's quite true but we don't have any other choice but to persist and hope that the opposition gets bored and the hatred wears off.

Actually you both are wrong supporters or people who dont care outnumber the bigoted haters 2 to 1.

http://social.biowar...110/polls/1358/

You might argue about not everyone voting on the poll but a sample size of 350+ and rising is darn good for a forum of this size.

I have zero problem whatsoever with homosexual content being added to the game. What I do have a problem with is promoting the idea that if you whine about something enough you'll automatically get it. I understand that this was  an issue before the whole gay love interest debate was brought up, but it shouldn't be encouraged nonetheless. At least in my opinion, anyway.

I hate it too, but we were completely silent between ME1 and ME2 and got screwed, Tali/Garrus was loud and got a lot. We didn't set the precedent.

[Sphynx118]

Wonderllama4 wrote...

Miranda seems like the experimental type to me... she needs to experience the passion of being with another woman

HAHA really? Experimental type? Miranda Lawson? Thats the last person i personally would say is a f/f interest. God i would sooner expect Mordin to turn gay than Miranda

[Mummolus]

Actually you both are wrong supporters or people who dont care outnumber the bigoted haters 2 to 1.

You realize that including the "don't care" as part of the "yes" answer invalidates your poll?

[SurfaceBeneath]

MajesticMoose wrote...
Im against homosexuality. Its because Im a christian and I know thats not how God intended for it to be. But I dont hate homosexual people (of course I dont hate hitler either

Indirect comparisons of homosexuals to hitler? We have been Godwin'd ladies and gents.

Modifié par SurfaceBeneath, 25 janvier 2010 - 04:37 .

[Soruyao]

I'm a straight male gamer and I'm fairly certain I'm part of a large segment of the fanbase that finds f/f relationships to be more entertaining.

I wouldn't have had much of a problem if there had been no F/F relationship in me1. I would have had a relationship for the achievement and moved on, because I didn't find either kaidan or ashley to be very compelling or interesting.

But the femshep/liara option was there and I enjoyed it a lot and build a character around it. (Actually, I tried to hit on tali first, but she didn't want me. She still won't, but that's another story.) Clearly at the very least she's bisexual because she's willing to get naked with something that has curves and breasts and a female voice actor. Er, I mean voice.

Now when ME2 was being advertised they went on and on about how there were way more romance choices this time around, and that we'd all be very tempted to cheat on our LI's because they would all be so well written and compelling.

Except for you! You get a super easy choice to stay loyal and a less interesting story, because your character is straight now even though she had sex with something that sounds and looks almost exactly like a human female.

It's a little disappointing. I'll make male characters later for all the romances but I won't enjoy them nearly as much as if the shepard that I'm the most interested in and emotionally invested with were dealing with them.

Personally, I would pay for romance DLC, and it would make me very happy. I wouldn't even be annoyed at having to do that, even though part of me feels like I'd be entitled to it (the annoyance) if I were. This is my highest suggestion, but of course I only want them to do it if they think that it would make money. I think it's very likely that it would.

I would also suggest not to shy away from controversy entirely as a company, because really, each of those fox news stories were free advertising. I bet there were a lot of people who would not have heard of the game who did because of the coverage of the F/F romance. Did it turn away enough people to offset that? I find it unlikely. How many highly conservative gamers were on the fence about buying ME1 and then said "What? I can sleep with an alien? I DONT WANT THIS ANYMOAR."

By all means, seek out a little controversy. There's always money in it. :3

Modifié par Soruyao, 25 janvier 2010 - 04:42 .

[MassFrost]

ERJAK2 wrote...

MassFrost wrote...

makenzieshepard wrote...

octoberfire wrote...

lewis1306 wrote...
contrast that with the various "same sex romance support" forums... a majority of the posts are either: indifferent, anti same sex romance, or flamewars/argument posts.

I am not a hater and it wouldn't bother me at all to have some Bisexual lovin' going on in the mass effect universe... all i'm saying is that if bioware were actually looking at these forums to help them decide whether or not to include same sex romance then it might actually make them LESS inclined to include t hem instead of more.

Sadly, that's quite true but we don't have any other choice but to persist and hope that the opposition gets bored and the hatred wears off.

Actually you both are wrong supporters or people who dont care outnumber the bigoted haters 2 to 1.

http://social.biowar...110/polls/1358/

You might argue about not everyone voting on the poll but a sample size of 350+ and rising is darn good for a forum of this size.

I have zero problem whatsoever with homosexual content being added to the game. What I do have a problem with is promoting the idea that if you whine about something enough you'll automatically get it. I understand that this was  an issue before the whole gay love interest debate was brought up, but it shouldn't be encouraged nonetheless. At least in my opinion, anyway.

I hate it too, but we were completely silent between ME1 and ME2 and got screwed, Tali/Garrus was loud and got a lot. We didn't set the precedent.

And as I said, I know you lot weren't the first to do it, but that doesn't mean that it sits well with me any more than it did when those people were whining and complaining trying to get what they want. It's incredibly childish, especially over such a minor issue. At this rate I think Bioware should just remove romance altogether, but then everyone would simply find something new to **** about.

[ERJAK2]

MajesticMoose wrote...

*sigh* WOW http://3.bp.blogspot...00/facepalm.jpg 

This whole thread is just... WOW...

Just so you guys know. Both sides of this arguement are being stupid (I used a nice word so as not to hurt your ears)

Im against homosexuality. Its because Im a christian and I know thats not how God intended for it to be. But I dont hate homosexual people (of course I dont hate hitler either OMG! Did he really just say that?!). I accept them as they are, Ill tell them that homosexuality is wrong, but if they dont get in a huge fuss about it then I would remain friends with them. That siad, adding a homosexual romance to the game doesnt really bother me (tho if he comes on to you as easy as Zevrhan did then ill , but Im tough ill get over), theres already violence and pre-marital sex and stuff in the game. I know it isnt exactly Godly. But I dont get why people who want it have to make so many threads about it and get all upset and say "The gays arent represented" (They are "represented" in planty of other places). I also dont see the need for so many threads. And before someone jumps down my throat saying "There are so many threads about it because of people like YOU" (I mean seriously you arent ACTUALLY fifty feet tall, thats the massive pedestal youve made for yourself your standing on), yo u guys are also contributing to the derailing of the tread by responding to the trolls and by being trolls yourselfs. Could you guys be any more hypocritical?! I mean BOTH sides here too. Seriously ALL of you need to have some more maturity here. Its quite pathetic. But continue if you like, it is mildly amussing...

Your wall of text is too long to bother with systematically destroying your argument. I will however state that religion is not allowed to be discussed on this thread, as has been stated by previous dev lockdowns. Please do not bring it up anymore.