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[PandaThief]

jlb524 wrote...

Zoe Dedweth wrote...

Anyhow - lets say SuZe was gay or bi. Would that satisfy your guys and gals ?

She is bi, she's just not a romance option for FemShep.

Now how does that make any senseO.o

[N30795]

PandaThief wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Zoe Dedweth wrote...

Anyhow - lets say SuZe was gay or bi. Would that satisfy your guys and gals ?

She is bi, she's just not a romance option for FemShep.

Now how does that make any senseO.o

Well, there are things that do not make sense in Bioware game, nowadays.

Why Leliana in DA:O that screamed "lesbian" was romancable by my male-character ?

But that's my personal non-thread related thought of the day, I'll end it here.

[Darth_Shizz]

PandaThief wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Zoe Dedweth wrote...

Anyhow - lets say SuZe was gay or bi. Would that satisfy your guys and gals ?

She is bi, she's just not a romance option for FemShep.

Now how does that make any senseO.o

She's had bisexual experiences. Doesn't necessarily mean she wants to pursue women

Modifié par Darth_Shizz, 25 janvier 2010 - 03:34 .

[jlb524]

PandaThief wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Zoe Dedweth wrote...

Anyhow - lets say SuZe was gay or bi. Would that satisfy your guys and gals ?

She is bi, she's just not a romance option for FemShep.

Now how does that make any senseO.o

IDK, ask BioWare.  I'm sure their response (excuse) will have something to do with resources and not having enough time to put that content in the game.

[N30795]

No F/F romance and not-interesting F/M romance...

Great.

Modifié par N30795, 25 janvier 2010 - 03:35 .

[Medhia Nox]

Would having only MaleShep straight romances satisfy the heterosexual populace?



Didn't think so.



SuZe being bi does nothing for me.

[GmanFresh]

it was answered before.. there just isnt enough demand.... they would rather focus their resources in other areas...

[JohnPazur]

Any way, let me just throw out there, that while I am not gay nor do I approve of the life choice, I do Accept those who are. After all I remember reading a good book saying to love your fellow man.(well that and my Marine combat partner was gay. BF I ever had...God rest his soul) So on to my point of view on this whole affair.



Lets say they did add the Gay option for the players who are gay/bi/trans....Ok I wouldn't be upset as I have the option to remain straight. (though it killed me a little inside when I was being nice to Zevran and he thought I was interested.) However I think the issue comes from other places in the world, not EU or the US really. But the Arab nations, some south east asia countries. (Thailand I am looking at you...hell like they should complain.) That could potenially bar places were they can legally sell them.



Now internet sells, buying through amazon and stuff like that is one way around it. Or the main reason they don't have it is because some CEO in EA says no....period...



The end result is that Bioware can not make every customer happy.

[jlb524]

Medhia Nox wrote...

Would having only MaleShep straight romances satisfy the heterosexual populace?

Didn't think so.

SuZe being bi does nothing for me.

No, it wouldn't be enough just to have Jack a bisexual option.  Thane or Jacob should be available to the guys as well.

[Medhia Nox]

GmanFresh - and now you know why we're here to dispel Bioware's errors.

[jlb524]

GmanFresh wrote...

it was answered before.. there just isnt enough demand.... they would rather focus their resources in other areas...

Like the fishtanks and flirting with your personal assistant, for example.  Very important things.

[JohnPazur]

Hey I was looking forward to that fish tank. Now if only I could get my dog in the quarters.

[Medhia Nox]

JohnPazur - and it is every costumers responsibility to speak up if they are unhappy.

I've worked in retail my entire life - if I were not meeting the needs of ALL my customers, I'd be shooting myself in the foot and I'd have nobody to blame but myself.

Edit: You just posted something else. Yeah, I'd love a golden retriever or a siberian husky. Definately not one of those lizard dog things from ME 1.

Modifié par Medhia Nox, 25 janvier 2010 - 03:40 .

[Darth_Shizz]

jlb524 wrote...

Medhia Nox wrote...

Would having only MaleShep straight romances satisfy the heterosexual populace?

Didn't think so.

SuZe being bi does nothing for me.

No, it wouldn't be enough just to have Jack a bisexual option.  Thane or Jacob should be available to the guys as well.

The real problem with this however, is where do you stop? Why not make every character available so that everyone is happy?

Simple answer; so squad mates actually retain some personality.

[kalerab]

Medhia Nox wrote...

Would having only MaleShep straight romances satisfy the heterosexual populace?

Didn't think so.

SuZe being bi does nothing for me.

Look, it was told here thousands of times but I have to repeat it - what BioWare does with their games is their problem. Just as is your problem wether you buy the product of their work or not, I would take your complain if you´d be cheated by their statements or offended but there I, personally, do not see a space for something like that happening. Or would you be satisfied if they added a homosexual relationship with character that is horribly written just because he is the possibility? I don´t think so. So either stick with the game or let it be, as you already figured out there is absolutely nothing you can do about it since developers decided like that and if you do not like the game, do not give your money to those who made it. Now, let this thread finally die.

[PandaThief]

Darth_Shizz wrote...

PandaThief wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Zoe Dedweth wrote...

Anyhow - lets say SuZe was gay or bi. Would that satisfy your guys and gals ?

She is bi, she's just not a romance option for FemShep.

Now how does that make any senseO.o

She's had bisexual experiences. Doesn't necessarily mean she wants to pursue women

If she was EX BISEXUAL than what you said makes sense, look im bi and have a bf, and yes i want to pursue women but just cuz im with a guy doesn't mean I still don't find women attractive or anything, it kinda stays with you and if bioware meant for her to have the title of bisexual than they would have made her that way and if she would only be with males than they should have just called her straight

[Darth_Shizz]

PandaThief wrote...

If she was EX BISEXUAL than what you said makes sense, look im bi and have a bf, and yes i want to pursue women but just cuz im with a guy doesn't mean I still don't find women attractive or anything, it kinda stays with you and if bioware meant for her to have the title of bisexual than they would have made her that way and if she would only be with males than they should have just called her straight

What applies to you, doesn't necessarily apply to everyone else. Take it from me, I know. I could put forward plenty of examples that go against what you said, though they don't make your experience any less wrong ;p

As I said, she had experiences, though that doesn't necessarily mean she's interested in a f/f relationship. Quite an interesting dynamic if you ask me.

Modifié par Darth_Shizz, 25 janvier 2010 - 03:44 .

[SurfaceBeneath]

jlb524 wrote...

GmanFresh wrote...

it was answered before.. there just isnt enough demand.... they would rather focus their resources in other areas...

Like the fishtanks and flirting with your personal assistant, for example.  Very important things.

...yes?

Fish Tank is awesome. Far more awesome than all romances. Do not question its power.

I wouldn't diss Kelly either. If I recall correctly, as a Femshep, she's your only chance for some girl lovin.

[jlb524]

PandaThief wrote...

If she was EX BISEXUAL than what you said makes sense, look im bi and have a bf, and yes i want to pursue women but just cuz im with a guy doesn't mean I still don't find women attractive or anything, it kinda stays with you and if bioware meant for her to have the title of bisexual than they would have made her that way and if she would only be with males than they should have just called her straight

I agree.  Why would the writers have her bring up those past experiences if they weren't important.  If they wanted to make her a total straight gal for DudeShepard, they could have kept her past sexual experiences to being strictly with men.  

SurfaceBeneath wrote...

I wouldn't diss Kelly either. If I recall correctly, as a Femshep, she's your only chance for some girl lovin.

I heard you can only get a hug from her....as a FemShep.

Modifié par jlb524, 25 janvier 2010 - 03:52 .

[Revan312]

Yazston the Invoker wrote...

But, you see, that's precisely what I am getting at...romance and sex are two totally different things.  Sex, in this situation, between a couple of characters who either lust after one another, or need to procreate, makes lots of sense, given the situation.

Problem is, from what I have read, people want a homosexual ROMANCE, not just a sex cutscene...that is what I am saying people should not get bent out of shape over, and I try to give some possible reasons for such.  I am not against their inclusion, but I, being heterosexual, would not be this upset if they had left it out comepletely, or had just put in a half dozen homosexual relationships, because I don't think it yet makes sense given the story, and it's not why I'm buying the game.  (now, I could still be proven wrong about whether or not it makes sense, since I haven't played it yet)

A lot of people seem to be making this out to be more than it is...Bioware has a great track record for making sure that Homosexual and minority options are available to their main characters.  (granted, now that EA has the final say...)

I can see exactly where your coming from and I agree, the romancing aspects of these games seem a bit far fetched when considering the circumstances (minus the old excuse of a dire situation quickens releationships), but, big but here, they added 6 entirely different LI's in the new ME, all supposedly much deeper than the last 3, yet Bioware has glaringly omitted a same-sex couple/s from that list.  As I've stated earlier in this thread, Bioware , with the inclusion of Liara being a lesbian option in the first game (as what else would that relationship be to femshep, I'm sure any woman sexing up an Asari would consider it lesbianism.) and the same-sex options they presented in all their past titles since kotor sets an assumed trend and one where the gay/lesbian/bisexual/straight but want gay romance crowd have preconceptions about what Bioware is going to do concerning this subject.

If Bioware never put such options in their games you wouldn't have the blowback that's happening right now.  But, since most of their  titles have included these options, it sets a precident that's hard for people to just let disappear.  I'm still gonna enjoy the heck out of the game, and I will see all the romances (minus maybe garrus, *shivers*) but my main shepard will not have the depth of character I wish she could have had or potentially the enjoyment I could have had by entering her into a same-sex relationship, she's gonna stay single in this title.

ME3 is a way's off and all I hope at this point is that Bioware considers this minority of gamers for inclusion next game as they have many times in the past. To be lauded as the future of inclusive game experiances, Bioware is tripping up on that front with this title.

Also, good job on getting this thread into the 40's and it not being locked, yay for constructive posting!

[defiantwolf]

@N30795: Thanks for posting the link.


As for that interview: Unless I am blind and missed that part somehow, the question of the Asari being a love interest is never actually answered in that article, so I do not see the Asari ruled out as a romance option just yet. Unless there was some other official statement elsewhere?

[Medhia Nox]

People fall in love during war-time all the time. It's a classic story. I don't find it too unbelievable.



What's impotant to remember is that there is time outside of "run through Presidium" "drive Mako over mountain" etc. that the developers can't add due to space. During this time - there is time for inter-character relationships. Friends, enemies, confidants, conflicts, and yeah - even romance.



Leia and Han shouldn't have a budding relationship because they're fighting the Empire!



Jack and Lily (the movie Legend) shouldn't have a relationship because - they're fighting Darkness!



Nathaniel and Cora from Last of the Mohicans - not only have wars, but the frontier to contend with.



Honestly folks - people find love in nearly every concievable situation.

[Zoe Dedweth]

PandaThief wrote...

Zoe Dedweth wrote...

Have you guys seen the boards. it's all just "Bioware, it's 2010...." threads. Good lord. Who else here thinks Kaidan being straight was awesome. You invite him into a threesome and all you get is a quiet, firm decline. Takes great moral fibre to stand by your beliefs like that. Always wondered why so many think kaidan is gay.

Anyhow - lets say SuZe was gay or bi. Would that satisfy your guys and gals ?

If SuZe was bi *she can't be gay cuz she is well um female* but yea if she was lesbain or bi, would prefer bi for some reason O.O um yea that would satisfy me, for now untill the next game that is lol

I thought Gay just meant male/male or female/female romances/relationships.