SorrowAndJoy7 wrote...
Out of curiousity since I can't seem to recall any, has bioware ever done a character that was a same sex li, but wasn't bi. Like only available through same sex romance options?
SorrowAndJoy7 wrote...
Out of curiousity since I can't seem to recall any, has bioware ever done a character that was a same sex li, but wasn't bi. Like only available through same sex romance options?
mewarmo990 wrote...
Why is this thread even here? There is a same-sex option in the game. Spoilers, though.
DaeJi wrote...
mewarmo990 wrote...
Why is this thread even here? There is a same-sex option in the game. Spoilers, though.
There is no true same sex romance in Mass Effect 2, not for females or males. We would like that option.
So anyone who has a suggestion for developers should just shut up and open up their own company? Then why do we have this forum?MassFrost wrote...
Arik7 wrote...
This not about political corretness. This about players' enjoyment. If you just want a story, you can watch a movie. However, taking away choices does not make a better RPG.
So invest in your gaming development company and create an RPG exactly the way you want it. Otherwise, learn to be content with what Bioware has decided to give you, or refuse to give them money (which would speak much louder than simply posting on a forum).
Arik7 wrote...
So anyone who has a suggestion for developers should just shut up and open up their own company? Then why do we have this forum?MassFrost wrote...
Arik7 wrote...
This not about political corretness. This about players' enjoyment. If you just want a story, you can watch a movie. However, taking away choices does not make a better RPG.
So invest in your gaming development company and create an RPG exactly the way you want it. Otherwise, learn to be content with what Bioware has decided to give you, or refuse to give them money (which would speak much louder than simply posting on a forum).
I have purchased DAO and I will buy other games that allows players the freedom to express themselves. I am not sure if I can bring myself to buy ME2.... I don't think I would be able to fully enjoy the game....
ERJAK2 wrote...
DaeJi wrote...
mewarmo990 wrote...
Why is this thread even here? There is a same-sex option in the game. Spoilers, though.
There is no true same sex romance in Mass Effect 2, not for females or males. We would like that option.
To be fair, Kelly is a femshep option, but again, consensus is that she doesn't really count.
Arik7 wrote...
This is not about political corretness. This about players' enjoyment. If you just want a story, you can watch a movie. However, taking away choices does not make a better RPG.
Modifié par Megalomaniac21, 26 janvier 2010 - 03:30 .
Looks too much like Tali to me. I hope they change her look.SorrowAndJoy7 wrote...
ERJAK2 wrote...
For those of you who haven't seen it yet there is a cool maybe real maybe fake link in the new thread about Katsumi. If it turns out to be real, she oughta be awesome.
I saw this as well.. I dunno what to think of it, I want to lean toward it being fake... but it did look pretty cool, even though it sorta looked like something taken from tali and photoshopped to be human. hmm...
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Megalomaniac21 wrote...
Since when has the choice to have a gay romance in a video game ever been a privilege to anybody? There's DA...anything else?
Besides, the romance in just about any given game (assuming it has one) is tertiary to the actual meat of the game. The ME series is no exception. Going through the trouble to make content for a very small demographic wouldn't be worth the trouble and would probably make half the people making the game uncomfortable anyways. On top of that, most of the people in that demographic wouldn't even care as long as the the primaries and secondaries of what really make the game great indeed are great. ME scores big there as it should.
Besides, they had F/F romance in the first game and it'll probably continue in this game. Who knows, you might get your M/M even. I'm just gonna try not the think about it when I play. Heh. Shouldn't be a problem.
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Jade Empire, Fable 1 & 2, Bully, to name a few.... Bioware's parent company, EA, has full same-sex marriage in the Sims 3.Megalomaniac21 wrote...
Arik7 wrote...
This is not about political corretness. This about players' enjoyment. If you just want a story, you can watch a movie. However, taking away choices does not make a better RPG.
Since when has the choice to have a gay romance in a video game ever been a privilege to anybody? There's DA...anything else?
The demographic is significant. Some businesses go after the gay $$$ for a reason... Moreover, quite a few straight people prefer to play as the opposite sex and sometimes prefer the same-sex romance option. How many complaints have we heard about the same-sex OPTION in DAO. There are far more requests to include same-sex romance in ME games. If it's not your thing, don't choose it.Besides, the romance in any just about any given game (assuming it has one) is tertiary to the actual meat of the game. The ME series is no exception. Going through the trouble to make content for a very small demographic wouldn't be worth the trouble and would probably make half the people making the game uncomfortable anyways. On top of that, most of the people in that demographic wouldn't even care as long as the the primaries and secondaries of what really make the game great indeed are great. ME scores big there as it should.
SorrowAndJoy7 wrote...
Megalomaniac21 wrote...
Since when has the choice to have a gay romance in a video game ever been a privilege to anybody? There's DA...anything else?
Besides, the romance in just about any given game (assuming it has one) is tertiary to the actual meat of the game. The ME series is no exception. Going through the trouble to make content for a very small demographic wouldn't be worth the trouble and would probably make half the people making the game uncomfortable anyways. On top of that, most of the people in that demographic wouldn't even care as long as the the primaries and secondaries of what really make the game great indeed are great. ME scores big there as it should.
Besides, they had F/F romance in the first game and it'll probably continue in this game. Who knows, you might get your M/M even. I'm just gonna try not the think about it when I play. Heh. Shouldn't be a problem.
I think you're underestimating the demographic... Mostly because, by that logic I think you're assuming same sex love interests only appeals to homosexual people. That is not the case. Many straight gamers, including me, like in game options. They don't have to be options we'd take in real life or even in the game... but having the choice is always nice.
MassFrost wrote...
There's nothing wrong with making suggestions, but taking it to levels of incessant whining as has been done with this issue (and others as well) can only be, I imagine, quite annoying to the developers. Personally, I feel bad for you if you'll let an issue as tiny as romance options ruin an incredible game for you (honestly it just seems ridiculous to me, for my own part I couldn't care less about the romance in Mass Effect), but at the same time I'd commend you for speaking with your wallet as a means of telling Bioware what you want.
Megalomaniac21 wrote...
I'm sure its an increasingly
growing demographic. Even so, still a waste of time and something that
should easily be on the backburner, especially with a project this
ambitious. I'd rather have more missions or something or other that
actually makes the game better be included that doesn't have to do with
sexuality. I think the typical gamer would agree. What should be the
focus should be the things that are the most universally appreciated,
e.g. good game mechanics and good story. I think most would agree.
Modifié par DaeJi, 26 janvier 2010 - 03:43 .
Megalomaniac21 wrote...
Since when has the choice to have a gay romance in a video game ever been a privilege to anybody? There's DA...anything else?
Besides, the romance in just about any given game (assuming it has one) is tertiary to the actual meat of the game. The ME series is no exception. Going through the trouble to make content for a very small demographic wouldn't be worth the trouble and would probably make half the people making the game uncomfortable anyways. On top of that, most of the people in that demographic wouldn't even care as long as the the primaries and secondaries of what really make the game great indeed are great. ME scores big there as it should.
Hulk Hsieh wrote...
Megalomaniac21 wrote...
Since when has the choice to have a gay romance in a video game ever been a privilege to anybody? There's DA...anything else?
Besides, the romance in just about any given game (assuming it has one) is tertiary to the actual meat of the game. The ME series is no exception. Going through the trouble to make content for a very small demographic wouldn't be worth the trouble and would probably make half the people making the game uncomfortable anyways. On top of that, most of the people in that demographic wouldn't even care as long as the the primaries and secondaries of what really make the game great indeed are great. ME scores big there as it should.
I remember Bioware said something similiar when people complain about that there is only Anomen for female PC in BG2. The players are most males so romance options for male PC has better C/P when counting development resource.
DaeJi wrote...
MassFrost wrote...
There's nothing wrong with making suggestions, but taking it to levels of incessant whining as has been done with this issue (and others as well) can only be, I imagine, quite annoying to the developers. Personally, I feel bad for you if you'll let an issue as tiny as romance options ruin an incredible game for you (honestly it just seems ridiculous to me, for my own part I couldn't care less about the romance in Mass Effect), but at the same time I'd commend you for speaking with your wallet as a means of telling Bioware what you want.
I believed I have already addressed you about the money thing; we love the game, the universe, and only want to make it better. And what we are asking for is not unreasonable. The content is already in the game, we would just like it to be available to us officially.Megalomaniac21 wrote...
I'm sure its an increasingly
growing demographic. Even so, still a waste of time and something that
should easily be on the backburner, especially with a project this
ambitious. I'd rather have more missions or something or other that
actually makes the game better be included that doesn't have to do with
sexuality. I think the typical gamer would agree. What should be the
focus should be the things that are the most universally appreciated,
e.g. good game mechanics and good story. I think most would agree.
Again, the content needed for a same sex romance DLC is already in the game. This is a week's worth of work tops if they take their time, a weeks worth of easy work that they could charge us $6 for. There would be a note worthy return of investment on that one.
Hope you have fun with ME2
Megalomaniac21 wrote...
Since when has the choice to have a gay romance in a video game ever been a privilege to anybody? There's DA...anything else?
Besides, the romance in just about any given game (assuming it has one) is tertiary to the actual meat of the game. The ME series is no exception. Going through the trouble to make content for a very small demographic wouldn't be worth the trouble and would probably make half the people making the game uncomfortable anyways. On top of that, most of the people in that demographic wouldn't even care as long as the the primaries and secondaries of what really make the game great indeed are great. ME scores big there as it should.
... 'Kay.
Part of what makes Bioware's games so ambitious is that they are supposed to be both cinematic and personal. If you've played Dragon Age I don't need to tell you that having a well-written romantic interest can make the game much much more memorable. Gay gamers by and large will miss out on that. I'm sure the core game of Mass Effect 2 is great but we're getting a shallower experience and that's disappointing.Megalomaniac21 wrote...
I'm sure its an increasingly growing demographic. Even so, still a waste of time and something that should easily be on the backburner, especially with a project this ambitious. I'd rather have more missions or something or other that actually makes the game better be included that doesn't have to do with sexuality. I think the typical gamer would agree. What should be the focus should be the things that are the most universally appreciated, e.g. good game mechanics and good story. I think most would agree.
SpiderCarnage wrote...
you gotta remember what happened with the Media after ME 1
Galluskek wrote...
I wonder if BioWare has considered entering the sex simulator market? They'd make a killing on pornographic games for all demographics!
I can imagine it now, Mass Effect 5: SSV Harem, where you are the commander of a crew representing an equally distributed spectrum of all races and genders and species. Even a Jokerette for those that prefer a very fragile female. And the Collectors are only aft... I'll stop.
But this sort of thing isn't the focus of the game, and if they sacrifice the depth of the story to individually model the beads of sweat clinging to the hairs on all the LIs, then the game would be lesser for it.
I'd buy it, and try out all the options of course. To deny my nature would be a disservice to myself.
However, not everyone in the world is gay, or even bi. And even if shep is, not everyone he meets will be someone he loves, no matter how much effort you may put into it. The relationships he can develop are real ones, the till death do us part kind. The contract expires there, though. No re-death, I don't think.
But in any case, enjoy the creative product that BioWare has labored to produce and hope feverishly that Jacob can be the main character in the next one (They say you can die in this one, how shocking!). He's really sensitive, if you catch my drift.
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