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BIOWARE, it's 2010, players should have a same-sex romance option.


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Killian Kalthorne

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ManBearPig91 wrote...

I like sex with dead people.


I like sex with animated dead people.

ANIMENECROPHILLIA FTW!

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Killian Kalthorne wrote...

ManBearPig91 wrote...

I like sex with dead people.


I like sex with animated dead people.

ANIMENECROPHILLIA FTW!


One word -> Thane Image IPB

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MassFrost wrote...

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And suddenly the romances seem petty, unless any of you have such strong resolve.  I commend anybody who has the will to NOT buy this game because they feel so strongly about the homosexual relations.


We like the game. We like the universe, the characters, the missions, the story, the lore, the company, everything! If we were not fans of the game, we would not care about this. This is not about latching on to one aspect of the game that is a "make it or break it" thing for us, but about making a game that we like better. Mass Effect is a series that is built on giving the player choices; having more choices makes the game better. That's what the Tali fans were all about; making the game better. That's what the people who hated the Mako were about; making the game better. That's what the people who wanted more Joker content were about; making the game better. And we aren't even asking to be part of the shipped game, only a small DLC that anyone can ignore.

You don't turn your back on something you like just because you are thrilled about one thing in it. If you can, then you didn't really like it in the first place.


I can see your point here, but again, if BioWare is going to continue getting your money regardless of what they choose to include or exclude from a game, what's the incentive for them to actually use the resources to add whatever it is you're campaigning for? Money speaks a lot louder than threads on a message board.


You'd be surprised how loud threads can be.  How do you think us Garrus fans got so lucky?


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RiouHotaru

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Once again a post of mine fills with gibberish and code. Srsly, wth?

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triggerhippy wrote...

The closest I have seen would be Leliani. I romanced her with both a male and female character but she definitely preferred women.


I didn't get that impression at all.  Apparently, Leliana is easier to romance if your PC is male, and she doesn't even talk about her bisexuality, unlike Zevran..

Leliana talks about her love for Marjolaine, but if you consider the context of that sentence, it could easily be construed as platonic rather than romantic love due to her using the words "mentor" and "dear friend" to describe Marjolaine.

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N30795 wrote...

If I do remember correctly, the codex says that "Asari only have one gender", "Asari are all sexually female".

I'll trust that.



Liara's gender is listed as 'female' in the Universe Section on the main Mass Effect page.  I agree...she's female.


@triggerhippy

I lol'ed at your sig!

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Mordigan wrote...

triggerhippy wrote...

The closest I have seen would be Leliani. I romanced her with both a male and female character but she definitely preferred women.


I didn't get that impression at all.  Apparently, Leliana is easier to romance if your PC is male, and she doesn't even talk about her bisexuality, unlike Zevran..

Leliana talks about her love for Marjolaine, but if you consider the context of that sentence, it could easily be construed as platonic rather than romantic love due to her using the words "mentor" and "dear friend" to describe Marjolaine.


Really?

Warning bells started going off in my head when she started talking about the other 'cloistered women'. Went to yellow alert when she's staring at Morrigans breats. Then finally went to red alert when she talks about Marjolaine. (I personally think I was a tad slow)

I'm not sure about the prefers women, but she definitely likes them.

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Perhaps it was the critique regarding the absence of male-male relationships in ME1 that lead the Dragon Age team to offer multiple sexuality options in their game.

I don't believe ME1 offers ANY homosexual relationships. Liara, while "female", is an alien. Technically, a relationship with her is neither hetero- or homosexual, but "xenosexual", it that's even a term.

From a design standpoint, for there to be true homosexual relationships it would've detracted from the romance subplot. For there to be the possibility of homosexual relationships, then:

- Kaidan would've had to been gay, eliminating a female character's romance subplot.
- Ashley would've had to been gay, eliminating a male character's romance subplot.

If the option existed for Kaidan/Ashley to facilitate both male AND female character's romance subplots, then both would've been classified as "bisexual", which is a bit of a copout and a bit of a strain on the cast's credibility. Two bisexual humans on your crew?

The alternative would've been to create two new human characters that existed solely for the purposes of a homosexual relationship.

Of course, the Asari could've been made to be "sexually male", but I think that conflicts with the idea of a race that adapts to any other species' mating habits (the idea of adaptation lends itself towards a "receptive/submissive" concept rather than a male "dominance/assertive" concept).

Just my opinion, of course.

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You do realize Ash and Kaiden were originally bi right? They just decided to scrap it at the last minute. >_>

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brgillespie wrote...

Perhaps it was the critique regarding the absence of male-male relationships in ME1 that lead the Dragon Age team to offer multiple sexuality options in their game.

I don't believe ME1 offers ANY homosexual relationships. Liara, while "female", is an alien. Technically, a relationship with her is neither hetero- or homosexual, but "xenosexual", it that's even a term.

From a design standpoint, for there to be true homosexual relationships it would've detracted from the romance subplot. For there to be the possibility of homosexual relationships, then:

- Kaidan would've had to been gay, eliminating a female character's romance subplot.
- Ashley would've had to been gay, eliminating a male character's romance subplot.

If the option existed for Kaidan/Ashley to facilitate both male AND female character's romance subplots, then both would've been classified as "bisexual", which is a bit of a copout and a bit of a strain on the cast's credibility. Two bisexual humans on your crew?

The alternative would've been to create two new human characters that existed solely for the purposes of a homosexual relationship.

Of course, the Asari could've been made to be "sexually male", but I think that conflicts with the idea of a race that adapts to any other species' mating habits (the idea of adaptation lends itself towards a "receptive/submissive" concept rather than a male "dominance/assertive" concept).

Just my opinion, of course.

Which is why we're disappointed with ME2 now that we have our "dirty dozen" where including two bisexual characters wouldn't be so strained. 

As far as ME1 goes, both Kaiden and Ashley were written and voice acted to be bisexual originally.  The sound files are in the game, but for whatever reason those romances weren't activated for the final version.  Also, let's not kid ourselves: Liara is for all intents and purposes a bisexual woman.  She looks a woman, sounds like a woman, acts like a woman, has sex like a woman, etc.  Yeah she's blue, but her general aesthetic is in line with our concept of femininity.

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So I guess people are busy playing the game right now?

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octoberfire wrote...

So I guess people are busy playing the game right now?


Seems so.



Bastards.

;)

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Quotes!! Aaaajhhh!!!

btw,  I'm playing the game now....so far so good.

Don't know 'bout same-sex romance yet.

Modifié par jlb524, 27 janvier 2010 - 12:12 .


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Could someone PM me if you find anything?

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Nothing yet...

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Scharfschutzen wrote...

The game has already gone gold. Why are you guys complaining? The number of people who are weirded out by homosexuals will make a racket and diatribe about this game, hurting sales. It's a marketing choice. They're trying to avoid controversy.

Are you kidding? When has controversy ever HURT sales? Every time I hear of some group or media outlet start complaining about the offensive content  of some game/movie/book the sales tend to spike upwards not down.People like to go and see what all the ****ing is about.

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You know what else they need in 2010? Forum search functions.

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loboME2

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not really. It's like the guns (which still didn't need bullets, but now you need heatsink refills)... having no search functions is an 'upgrade'.

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Dear Akrim_Drak,



is to download the mentioned save the only way to trigger this scene with MaleShep and Kaiden?

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Female Shepards in ME2 can romance Kelly Chambers. Not sure about male Shepards, since I romanced :wub:Tali:wub: on my second playthrough 

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conglomerator wrote...

Female Shepards in ME2 can romance Kelly Chambers. Not sure about male Shepards, since I romanced :wub:Tali:wub: on my second playthrough 

It's not really a romance though...:mellow:

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yeah... this made me sad. DA got me all excited for a potential male love interest for my Shep.

It's especially sad now that there are 7 potential partners.

I'd gladly trade Zaeed (who I haven't even gotten around to finding yet) for a gay downloadable character.



Plus a DLC addition could be ignored by that annoying part of the population who would want to throw a hissyfit over gay romance. win win situation bioware!

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Jimmy Fury wrote...

yeah... this made me sad. DA got me all excited for a potential male love interest for my Shep.
It's especially sad now that there are 7 potential partners.
I'd gladly trade Zaeed (who I haven't even gotten around to finding yet) for a gay downloadable character.

Plus a DLC addition could be ignored by that annoying part of the population who would want to throw a hissyfit over gay romance. win win situation bioware!


I don't know if it's such a good idea to ghetto-ize certain aspects of the game. DLC is one option, but I'd rather see it fully implemented into the original Mass Effect 3.

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"DLC is one option, but I'd rather see it fully implemented into the original Mass Effect 3"



Cool, one month ago everyone get for sure there will be lesbian romance, now we ended with hopes something may be in ME3.

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At this point I don't think its happening. ME just isn't a franchise that lends itself to same sex relationships (despite the Asari apparently they don't count *rolleyes* )