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[N7R C7]

I don't see why the relationship choice in the game matters so much, i mean its just a like 1 min clip of whoever with whoever and then that is it.

[rexil]

And Morith. Has someone tried something with her?

I'm going to try her now on my second playthrough with my FemShep

[Northborn]

Honestly, I don't get this non-sense. If its there, its there, if its not, its not. Why does an RPG even need romance in the first place, and if it does have it, why should it throw a thousand options at you to satisfy you personally. This isn't a love simulator, its a space opera about fending off a greater threat.  Sure the romance arc is fun, but its not critical and its not there to fulfill your lonely lonely needs. You're not going to scream at a movie or book because the protagonist isn't spanking someone of his gender.

I hear Second Life and its sexual alternate offer what you seem to crave. There are easier ways to see girl on girl and guy on guy action out there, we don't need it in every bioware RPG and we don't need to hear you flaunt your sexual preferences all over the forums. That goes for straight people drooling over pixelated characters like Tali and Miranda, too.

Its just flat out ridiculous, and terribly sad.

Modifié par Jep13, 28 janvier 2010 - 12:29 .

[Sporothrix]

N7R C7 wrote...

I don't see why the relationship choice in the game matters so much, i mean its just a like 1 min clip of whoever with whoever and then that is it.

Because people wants to play as someone who resembles them, and because straight folk have 6 possibilities, gay - none.
And I think most straight people who say romance doesn't matter won't say that if they have only gay romance options or nothing at all.

[Sporothrix]

Jep13 wrote...

Honestly, I don't get this non-sense. If its there, its there, if its not, its not. Why does an RPG even need romance in the first place, and if it does have it, why should it throw a thousand options at you to satisfy you personally.

It's easy to say when you have actually a bunch of options (so, it looks like, romances play a major role in that game). If you were on our place, you'll propably with same anger say different.

Modifié par misoretu9, 28 janvier 2010 - 12:34 .

[Lmaoboat]

I find romance in games to unbearably hackneyed, so I don't really care. In fact, I derived great pleasure from having whatsherface left on the planet to get vaporized.

[Northborn]

And I think most straight people who say romance doesn't matter won't say that if they have only gay romance options or nothing at all.

Most RPGs don't have romance stories. Bioware is one of few to throw them in every game, and until recently, it was rarely that good, and barely a choice (Bastila in KOTOR, for example).

If there was a romance arc, however, and there was 5 gay options and no straight ones, I'd just not engage in any. If the characters were all up in my face with their homosexual attraction, however, I would definately be annoyed and disturbed. Still, fact of the matter is, being straight is normal. Being homosexual, while it is certainly acceptable and I have no qualms towards homosexuals, it remains that it is out of the ordinary, and a minority.

I do take issue with homosexuals who flaunt it everywhere and throw a fit because they do not have such an option in a silly video game. BUT. I feel the same way with a straight person going on about how a pixelated character is hot or not, or throw a fit because said character isn't 'hot'.

I am sorry if that offends anyone, but that is how I feel. 

[SethSteiner]

skinned77 wrote...

You know what else they need in 2010? Forum search functions.

You know, there was a search function a few days ago, I don`t know what happened to it but it`s somehow weird how it disappeared. Who knows, maybe they don`t want that Kasumi comes up again.^^

[Traumacrazy]

hmmm...i wonder what it's like being gay :/

[Traumacrazy]

Ryuuichi009 wrote...

Jep13 wrote...

And I think most straight people who say romance doesn't matter won't say that if they have only gay romance options or nothing at all.

Most RPGs don't have romance stories. Bioware is one of few to throw them in every game, and until recently, it was rarely that good, and barely a choice (Bastila in KOTOR, for example).

If there was a romance arc, however, and there was 5 gay options and no straight ones, I'd just not engage in any. If the characters were all up in my face with their homosexual attraction, however, I would definately be annoyed and disturbed. Still, fact of the matter is, being straight is normal. Being homosexual, while it is certainly acceptable and I have no qualms towards homosexuals, it remains that it is out of the ordinary, and a minority.

I do take issue with homosexuals who flaunt it everywhere and throw a fit because they do not have such an option in a silly video game. BUT. I feel the same way with a straight person going on about how a pixelated character is hot or not, or throw a fit because said character isn't 'hot'.

I am sorry if that offends anyone, but that is how I feel. 

I feel the same way when a guy is constantly hitting on me. Its annoying as crap. I really don't want him all in my face with his heterosexual attraction.

[Northborn]

Ryuuichi009 wrote...

I feel the same way when a guy is constantly hitting on me. Its annoying as crap. I really don't want him all in my face with his heterosexual attraction.

Edited for clarification. XD 

Well no one likes to be flirted up constantly when they aren't interested, but it remains that a guy hitting on a girl, or a girl hitting on a guy is normal.

[Northborn]

Fair enough. Like I said before, I dont think romantic arcs are a must and maybe Bioware went way overboard with romance options this time around. Two was fine, in my opinion. So far, besides Yeoman Chambers, though, others have not been in my face about it.



It does kind of seem like they wanted to catter to the shooter and horny crowds though, with ME2.

[grumpymooselion]

Hm, I'm not sure I follow this thread. Granted, I haven't played the game through with the intent of a relationship yet, but the female version of Shepard had the Psychologist asking her if she's catch her. One of the option suggested that you could make a pass at her, whether she'd accept it or not. I don't know if she would accept it or not, mostly because I didn't really have any relationship intents at the time.

I know in the last game the female Shepard could have a nice tumble with Liara. Granted her species only really has one gender, but, at the same time, the Codex describes them as "An All Female Race" and I'm quoting that word for word. That was obviously a same sex relationship if you took it, and interspecies on top of that.

To be more precice though, Biowares other games have also had same sex relationships. So they "really" are not ignoring same sex relationships, not at all. Dragon Age had same sex relationships, heck even Jade Empire had same sex relationship options (and unless I'm mistake it even had a "three person relationship" possibility which was pretty funny).

So I really don't see where this thread is coming from. Bioware has shown a willingness to have same sex relationships, reference them and even including them. Same sex relationships are not being ignored. I don't see where this grief over a lack in this game is coming from. If the characters were interested, they'd offer. If they aren't interested, then they won't offer.

Even as a Tali fan I say this, all while saying it I'm fairly sure Tali would never be interested, that way, in my current female playthrough of Shepard. And that's fine. That's her character. It shouldn't be any other way as nothing we've ever been told about her suggests she's anything but straight.

[Arik7]

Jep13 wrote...

Honestly, I don't get this non-sense. If its there, its there, if its not, its not. Why does an RPG even need romance in the first place, and if it does have it, why should it throw a thousand options at you to satisfy you personally. This isn't a love simulator, its a space opera about fending off a greater threat.  Sure the romance arc is fun, but its not critical and its not there to fulfill your lonely lonely needs. You're not going to scream at a movie or book because the protagonist isn't spanking someone of his gender.

I hear Second Life and its sexual alternate offer what you seem to crave. There are easier ways to see girl on girl and guy on guy action out there, we don't need it in every bioware RPG and we don't need to hear you flaunt your sexual preferences all over the forums. That goes for straight people drooling over pixelated characters like Tali and Miranda, too.

Its just flat out ridiculous, and terribly sad.

Jep13, the people here are mostly fans of the ME games.  They don't want Second Life.   They like the ME concept, and wish to express themselves in that environment.    I'm not going to scream at a movie or book  because it's not supposed to be my story.  I play RPGs specifically because I want choices.   I really like the ME Universe, but that the fact BW put 6 romances in ME2, and no same-sex option, it just feels wrong.  I will not be purchasing ME2 on principle.....

Modifié par Arik7, 28 janvier 2010 - 02:05 .

[Railstay]

I'm a little surprised the prevalence of homophobiain this thread. The assumption that gay people will be all over your character just because they're gay was funny in particular.  Because we all know that gay people are all nothing but horndogs, and if a guy is gay, it doesn't matter if you've a three hundred pound acne farm with a shawl of dandruff on your shoulders.  He'll want to cornhole you.

Anyway, it isn't difficult to do, and it's been done in the past, so I don't see a problem with allowing it in Mass Effect. You can have female-female and male-male relationships in both Jade Empire and Dragon Age, and both games allowed both types of homosexual relationships.

But at the same time I don't think it's a leap to assume that Jade Empire and Dragon Age both have a core audience who've already played a lot of RPGs, and this idea isn't disturbing for foreign to them. For a game that draws in a much bigger audience like Mass Effect, maybe it can be interpreted that a gay Shepard is somehow less masculine or capable than a straight one. There's some evidence of that in this very thread.

Allowing gay relationships in the ME series will be a very ballsy move, but I don't expect to see it.

Modifié par Railstay, 28 janvier 2010 - 02:12 .

[Northborn]

Arik7 wrote...

Jep13, the people here are mostly fans of the ME games.  They don't want Second Life.   They like the ME concept, and wish to express themselves in that environment.    I'm not going to scream at a movie or book  because it's not supposed to be my story.  I play RPGs specifically because I want choices.   I really like the ME Universe, but that the fact BW put 6 romances in ME2, and no same-sex option, it just feels wrong.  I will not be purchasing ME2 on principle.....

On what principle exactly? On the principle that bioware is not cattering to something that is in no way an integral part of their game? Even if Casey Hudson says the romance plays an important part in the story line, it remains that Mass Effect is not a love simulator. They are giving you choices of romanceable characters fitting to both the story and their own personality. Demanding that they craft a character so that you can have an homosexual relationship is selfish. They didn't not create "6" choices for one character. There are 3 for males, and 3 for females. They are not behaving in an homophobic manner. If they did, I would understand your "I will not be purchasing ME2 on principle." But the fact that you choose to boycott a perfectly good game because it does not catter to your sexual preference is a cowardly excuse. Again, Mass Effect is not a love simulator. Its not supposed to be *your* story, its Shepard's.

If you are not comfortable romancing a woman because you attracted to males, than you have the option of creating a female character. Roleplaying is not about replicating your real life personality in a game. You are taking on a role.

I am sorry to say this, but homosexuality remains a minority and an abnormality, Its usually up to the minorities to adapt. You can't just DEMAND something because you are special.

[Northborn]

Ugh, for the record, I don't have any problems with homosexuals in general. Everyone does what they must. I just find these complaints and demands for a video game absolutely ridiculous. The game wont change your life, even if it offers you a pixelated gay character to love.

[Nekator]

Jep13 wrote...

Honestly, I don't get this non-sense. If its there, its there, if its not, its not. Why does an RPG even need romance in the first place, and if it does have it, why should it throw a thousand options at you to satisfy you personally. This isn't a love simulator, its a space opera about fending off a greater threat.  Sure the romance arc is fun, but its not critical and its not there to fulfill your lonely lonely needs. You're not going to scream at a movie or book because the protagonist isn't spanking someone of his gender.

I hear Second Life and its sexual alternate offer what you seem to crave. There are easier ways to see girl on girl and guy on guy action out there, we don't need it in every bioware RPG and we don't need to hear you flaunt your sexual preferences all over the forums. That goes for straight people drooling over pixelated characters like Tali and Miranda, too.

Its just flat out ridiculous, and terribly sad.

True.. besides seeing how the RPG part of ME2 got sacked, there should be greater problems then this annoying Gay Romances imo.

[NekaSpeaksTruth]

Ever realized you could play through the game without having any romance?



I played alot of RPG's, including Jade Empire - Which untill 5 minutes ago I didn't even realize it had Romance Options.



As for ME1, you sorta had your ''lesbian'' relationship, you can argue about Liara not being a real woman ''technically'' - But she does have a female appearance. If you're really so nutty about it, try to cut the talking out and you'll have that female/female thing.



In ME2 - While you don't have every option also, you have Kelly at least. There once more goes that fem/fem thing. (Thane's so much hotter though c.c)



As for the guy/guy relationships.. - Can't remember any game I've played that had such implemented.



Saying you want to have a Char that feels close to you or similar to yourself is a nice idea, however you'd have to start at the very beginning then, not somewhere in the middle.

Of course I'd like my char to be somewhat similar to me aswell, however my hair's reaching down to my lower back - And I don't throw tantrums about how in other games chars can have long hair, how many people outside have long hair - and yet it wasn't implemented in the game.



Noone forces you to explore the Romance part, and I don't think your RL gender identity/attraction should matter on the choices your char makes. There's a huge difference between a Game and Reality, you ought to never lose track of it, no matter how much you enjoy diving into that new fantasy world to leave anything else behind.



You don't go out of the door either and complain about why XX doesn't like women, XX doesn't like men and you don't have any chance of charming them either.